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FE Intake install questions
« on: February 08, 2024, 09:41:42 AM »
I just finished watching Brent's video on intake installation. I'm wondering what type of silicon was used. I have purchased a small tube of "The Right Stuff" which is supposed to be what a lot of manufacturers are using now. I noticed that he placed a thin layer on the gasket ( both head side and intake side ) around all of the ports and water passage openings. Is this still a good practice with the regular Fel Pro gaskets ( they come in the set ) ? I also am aware that some still use the Permatex Red Spray on both sides and don't have any leaks. The gaskets have a slight protrusion or raised ridge on one side and I don't know if the silicon would interfere with that. This is primarily a street motor ( 410 with stock CJ heads and a Performer RPM intake ). I did the test fit by laying the gaskets in place and simply dropping down the intake in the proper location. I got lucky. The top surfaces where the valve cover gaskets rest is perfectly even on all 4 corners while the intake rests on the gaskets. What would be the torque value on the bolts in this situation ?         Bob
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2024, 01:57:34 PM »
OEM (in this case Edelbrock for the intake) install info for the win!  :D

Torque specs for an engine using all Ford parts are pretty easy to come by as well.  Google and a forum search being the top two resources imho.
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2024, 02:52:24 PM »
I used Permatex Ultra Black on all gasket surfaces--I used Fel-Pro MS90145. I had a smoking engine that was cured by doing this, of course removing the valley pan and adding positive stop valve stem seals probably helped as well. I've not had a problem since. Just know that removing the intake after using Ultra Black or the Right Stuff will be a chore--this stuff seals incredibly well and doesn't want to let loose very easily.
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2024, 03:29:31 PM »
I've had the Right Stuff be porous before.  I haven't used it since. 

I currently use Dow Corning 732 clear.  It's very easy to manipulate, dries fairly quickly, etc. 
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2024, 05:58:50 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2024, 06:10:07 PM »
Ok ... I just checked the temp range of Dow Corning 732 clear. It is good up to 356 degrees F with occasional spikes up to 401 degrees. Then I researched typical intake manifold temperatures. That varies but generally speaking they should be around 250 degrees F at the upper end so the Dow Corning 732 should be good. I also found that the Dow Corning 732 Black has a slightly higher temperature rating ... maybe around 450 degrees F. I will see if I can find my receipt and return the "Right Stuff" back to the store.
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2024, 07:52:41 PM »
Ok ... I just checked the temp range of Dow Corning 732 clear. It is good up to 356 degrees F with occasional spikes up to 401 degrees. Then I researched typical intake manifold temperatures. That varies but generally speaking they should be around 250 degrees F at the upper end so the Dow Corning 732 should be good. I also found that the Dow Corning 732 Black has a slightly higher temperature rating ... maybe around 450 degrees F. I will see if I can find my receipt and return the "Right Stuff" back to the store.

You don’t have to worry about temperatures.  I’ve used 732 for a decade or more on every part of an FE that needs to be sealed up, including intake manifolds, oil pans, and even rear main side seals.

I wouldn’t recommend it if it’s not successful.
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2024, 12:51:50 PM »
I like motorcraft TA-31 im a Big believer after i sealed a pinhole in the radiator with water still in it
Color werry close to Aluminium easy to take apart. Even get british motorcycles to stop leaking :o
Sealed a crack in a board on the boat



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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2024, 03:46:02 PM »
I like motorcraft TA-31 im a Big believer after i sealed a pinhole in the radiator with water still in it
Color werry close to Aluminium easy to take apart. Even get british motorcycles to stop leaking :o
Sealed a crack in a board on the boat
Yeah, but the real test would it stop an oil leak on a Harley?
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2024, 04:50:05 PM »
I like motorcraft TA-31 im a Big believer after i sealed a pinhole in the radiator with water still in it
Color werry close to Aluminium easy to take apart. Even get british motorcycles to stop leaking :o
Sealed a crack in a board on the boat
Yeah, but the real test would it stop an oil leak on a Harley?

I have a friend that have a panhead chopper, One time he said to me look att this shit it is an oil puddle under it
and i dont even have an engine in the frame :o ;D ;D Maby i give him a tube of TA-31 Chevy guy as he is :D



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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2024, 06:46:33 PM »
I have been using TA-31 for a long time now.
Originally designed for use on 6.5/7.3 diesel oil pans.
Obviously good for oil resistance and temperature range.

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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2024, 07:13:01 PM »
I have a friend that have a panhead chopper, One time he said to me look att this shit it is an oil puddle under it
and i dont even have an engine in the frame :o ;D ;D Maby i give him a tube of TA-31 Chevy guy as he is :D
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When you give him the TA-31, make sure to include a bag of Harley-Davidson brand oil dry.
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2024, 07:21:56 PM »
Dow Corning if not using end gaskets for a resto, I was reluctant until Brent got me to try it, it's good advice, trust him.  I'd stick with clear too, got a case on the shelf to stand behind my recommendation, 
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Re: FE Intake install questions
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2024, 11:05:03 PM »
make sure intake fits good or it will suck oil and smoke if it dont seal
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