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Leny Mason

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C6 calibration
« on: November 28, 2023, 08:42:21 AM »
Is there anyone Here that has a chart to figure what tooth count for C6 speedometer, I have 325 gears and 33 inch tires in My Comet, I don't know if there is different amount of teeth on the tale shafts on different C6's thanks Leny.

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2023, 08:57:35 AM »

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2023, 10:40:54 AM »
The C6 speedo gear on the output shaft is not removable.
The teeth are rolled into the shaft itself.

Shafts were made with 6-7-8-9 teeth for the speedo.

To change the output shaft you need to remove and dis-assemble the trans.

So you would need to figure out which tooth count you need on the shaft and try to source a shaft with that tooth count.
Then take the trans apart to change it.

I don't know of a chart to find tooth counts.

You might get "close" just changing the driven cable gear.




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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2023, 10:44:29 AM »
For mustangs but this PDF might help....


TCI also has a calculator.
Scroll to the bottom for Ford info.


https://www.tciauto.com/speedometer-gear-calculator
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 10:49:16 AM by galaxiex »
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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2023, 11:24:29 AM »
There must be some kind of generic guide to what shaft tooth count was in c6 for use in car/truck early years and later years I can't see many shafts getting replaced when rebuilt so i would think most would be oem to the transmission.

I had a big in big out toploader when i first got my car going and i am pretty sure i used a 21tooth with my rear gear and tire size i then changed to a c6 and my speed reads the same going by rpm and mph on the dash acording to the cobrajet site my c6 should have a 8tooth on the shaft it was an early box from a car
« Last Edit: November 28, 2023, 11:35:03 AM by Jb427 »

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2023, 12:12:42 PM »
drive gear (main shaft) 1 tooth is 10 mph
driven gear 1 tooth is 2 mph

depending what driven you have and how far off you are will determine if you can correct the speedo without a transmission tear down

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2023, 12:35:57 PM »
https://transmissioncenter.net/shop/55ra-ford-speedometer-ratio-adapter/

Cheaper than screwing together a new transmission output shaft.

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2023, 05:00:44 PM »
I have a free gps speedometer app on my phone , I just compare it to the speedometer indicated speed and adjust drivin gear tooth count up or down depending on amount of error , keep in mind you can only go so far without needing a speed reducer and some combos tend to have shorter driven gear life

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2023, 07:13:30 PM »
Work with percentages to determine the amount of change needed to correct the speedometer. Bring GPS to verify actual road speed. Go 50 mph on the GPS. what does your speedo read?  If the speed reads 45 then you are 10% off, if it reads 42, then you are 16% off too slow. Lets say your speedo reads 42 at 50 for a 16% error. Remove the speedo driven gear from the trans. Let's say you have a 18 tooth driven gear and the example requires speeding up the speedo. You would multiply 18 x .84 to find 15.12, round down to 15 driven gear teeth and that is as close as you can get to accurate.
 Or, if your road speed is 50 and the speedo reads 58 which is 8mph too fast would also be a 16% error. Again, if your speedo driven gear is 18 teeth, then multiply 18 x 1.16 to find 20.88. Round up to 21. If a 21 is available it would be the closest to correct.
   If the 21 is not available, then you will need to change the output shaft to the next lower tooth count. As a guess, a 7 tooth drive would probably be the right range for available gears and if your tire is tall enough, you might get away with an 8 tooth drive output shaft.
    I've seen up to a 23 tooth gear, but the teeth are so thin, they have a shorter life.
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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2023, 10:39:28 PM »
See if this helps...
https://www.428cobrajet.org/speedo-calc

Have used this before on a couple of occasions and its been spot on.

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2023, 04:03:26 AM »
See if this helps...
https://www.428cobrajet.org/speedo-calc
   

That is cool if My driven gear is 8 I need a 21 driven gear thanks.

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2023, 04:06:32 AM »
The C6 speedo gear on the output shaft is not removable.
The teeth are rolled into the shaft itself.

Shafts were made with 6-7-8-9 teeth for the speedo.

To change the output shaft you need to remove and dis-assemble the trans.

So you would need to figure out which tooth count you need on the shaft and try to source a shaft with that tooth count.
Then take the trans apart to change it.

I don't know of a chart to find tooth counts.

You might get "close" just changing the driven cable gear.   Thanks I will experiment I found a 16 driven gear.

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2023, 04:20:03 AM »
Thanks' for all the information, it is Cool the there is so many people on this sight that have all this information in there heads Thanks' again. Leny

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2023, 05:56:10 AM »
Let us know Leny how it work's out you got me thinking i am going to go up 1 tooth my speedo is close but it dose read a few mph fast

Im running a 265 50 15 tire and 3.5 rear gear

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Re: C6 calibration
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2023, 09:40:34 AM »
Will do thanks for the help. Leny