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C8OZ

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Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« on: December 14, 2022, 09:17:03 AM »
I have a Wilwood classic front disc kit (140-13476, the economy one) that got shelved on an earlier project.

Has anyone paired these with the 1970s Ford dual master cylinder (Maverick etc, manual front disc / rear drums) or know if the volume would be compatible?

It just occurred to me that (if I don't require an aftermarket master) might have the parts here to retire another single pot master cylinder.

I know it's as easy as a call to Wilwood, but I'd feel better hearing from someone who has stepped on the pedal afterward. Plus my FE project is dragging and I want to look alive here.  ;D
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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2022, 09:02:35 PM »
I put the Wilwood Classic Dynalite front brake kit (140-13653) on my 63 Galaxie. I used a disc/drum master cylinder to suit a 67 Galaxie, and it works fine.

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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2022, 10:18:33 PM »
I have a Wilwood front disc kit (11" rotors with aluminum 4 piston calipers) on my 59. I am using a manual disc/drum master cylinder meant for a Maverick, and it has been fine for the 2 1/2 years that I have had the car on the road. Obviously the pedal effort is higher than a power brake equipped car, but not at all objectionable. It`s been about 6 or 7 years since I drove the car with it`s original manual 4 wheel drum setup, but I doubt that the manual disc setup is harder to press the brake pedal down, the the factory setup.
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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2022, 11:25:56 PM »
Perfect, thank you both. Looks likely to work out.

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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2022, 02:07:35 PM »
I have a full Maverick/Comet manual disk system on the Falcon - stock disks, spindles and master - and would imagine (as Roary confirms) that a Wildwood or Strange 4 piston set would work just as well on the front as the stock giant single piston calipers do.  Probably better.  I have Strange manual 4 piston units on the dragster rear and they stop the car fine from 126 MPH using the Strange sub-150 MPH pads.  The master cylinder that feeds them is tiny with a 7/8" bore.

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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2022, 11:05:57 PM »
I've used the Maverick parts on a few projects over the years and they've been perfect.

I like the look of the Strange rear disc setup, and this (64 Fairlane) will probably get those eventually.

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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2022, 11:22:02 PM »
How about the weight savings on that setup. It sort of looks like just a nicer looking stock setup. As far as the rotor it’s probably the same, maybe the caliper and pad setup is lighter.

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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2022, 11:53:47 PM »
I was amazed how much lighter it is than the factory disc setup on my 68 Torino that I originally planned to replace. I haven't actually weighed the parts, but the calipers and brackets are so light it's feels a bit scary somehow. The rotors are a bit thinner/narrower than Ford also, I think.

I'll weight everything as I replace the drum setup on the 64 for comparison, probably next week.

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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2023, 05:03:58 PM »
The Wilwood setup ended up shaving just 1.6 pounds total from the 64 Fairlane drum brakes, according to the average of 3 measurements on an imported digital bathroom scale. I haven't checked the late 60s Ford disc setup, but I figure it's a few pounds heavier yet.

Not enough to make a real difference for any of them, but I was curious.


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Re: Wilwood front discs with Ford dual master?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2023, 09:52:06 AM »
Now I've put that kit in my Wish List at Summit.   ;D