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352 360 horse
« on: May 18, 2021, 06:21:24 PM »
This one is going on the pump Thurs..
It is a stock rebuild of a 360 horse 352 as near to original as I can make it. I have the correct heads, carb, intake, dual point distributor. Cam is a copy of the 406 cam from Holman Moody which most people agree is what came in the 360 horse.. I am going to run through the shorty cast headers into 2.5 inch pipes no mufflers
Deviations from stock: 4.03 bore, about 1/2 point shy on compression.  Previous owner has put  CJ sized valves in the heads.  I will run it on 110.

I plan to optimize the air fuel on the original carb, dial in timing, and maybe try a couple spacers... Then I plan to switch to a Autolite 1.19 carb just for fun.

Guesses are welcome, however no prizes will be given..  Unless I can get Steve Peasley to volunteer for the county fair dunk tank.. Then i could give out a dozen free tries to put him in the drink.

Frankly, looking at the carb and intake manifold, no way this makes 360 horse.
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2021, 06:46:57 PM »
So the cam is the 306-306 advertised, 228-228-114 at .050, .298 lobe lift?

Compression ratio?
Deck clearance & gasket thickness?
Piston-to-Bore & Bearing clearances rods/mains?

I ran spacers on the factory 8v LR intake & it did NOT like an open spacer, the air slamming into those 4 little holes really upset it.
I'd try either a 4-hole or a clover-leaf, something to smooth the flow as it slams into the intake.

This will be fun- especially the peak torque with those high-tech C0AE-D chambers.

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2021, 06:54:52 PM »
Looking forward to the results...
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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2021, 07:31:41 PM »
Nice, I’ve always hoped someone would build and test one someday.

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2021, 09:13:23 PM »
Well  lets see if I can fill in some blanks  Compression ratio 10.1 I had to deck it .030 and cut the head .030 to get there.. Piston is .030 down the bore and I have a .020 head gasket Bearings are .0025 rod .0030 main. Did not measure the piston to bore clearance    Relied on the machine shop and I forgot the spec. I have a 4 hole 1 inch spacer and a 1 inch clover leaf spacer to try
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1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2021, 12:15:12 AM »
I won't be at all surprised if the Autolite 1.19 outperforms the original Holley.I also won't be surprised if you meet or exceed the factory rating.

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2021, 01:18:58 AM »
358 @ 5500
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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2021, 08:31:27 AM »
What ring pack did you get with the pistons?  That will have an affect on the results. 

328 hp

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2021, 08:43:59 AM »
You are close to my Guess Joe.. The rings are the old 5/64 style.  In fact given how short of the 300 horse rating the standard 4bbl 352 was. I would not be surprised if this one was under 325 hp..
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2021, 10:37:17 AM »
Any other "love" given to the cylinder heads other than bigger valves and milling?

Good luck and I'm hoping to see 360hp.

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2021, 10:40:15 AM »
Cool Build!
Not old enough to remember 360 hp 352.
I would guess 340 hp.
I would also guess this will like plenty of ignition advance too.




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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2021, 12:26:23 PM »
361
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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2021, 01:39:09 PM »
Nothing done to the heads beside bigger valves and milling..   I hope my pessimism on the horsepower is proven wrong
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2021, 01:48:03 PM »
It should at least make 1 hp per cube I'd think.
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Re: 352 360 horse
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2021, 02:06:25 PM »
347 is my guess



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