Transmission options/opinions rebuild stock C6, go with new TCI, other?

[cammerfe]

Scott---

That picture is NOT of an FE trans. It's probably for a small-block. The FE bell is rounded on the top---not the two holes in a straight line.

KS

[plovett]

Question on the Broader C6 here: http://www.broaderperformance.com/ford-c6-/24-700-horsepower-street-strip.html. Is the tranny shown just a stock photo? The bell housing looks wildly different than the unit in my 67 Fairlane. If I'm buying an off the shelf unit I'd prefer it to be as "bolt in" as possible due to paying someone eases labor rate for the installation.

Thanks!
Scott

It's just a stock photo.  They'll build the transmission in whatever case you need.  By the way that is the transmission I have in my Cougar (with the FE housing) and I love it.  When I bought mine I talked to Jay and he asked me a lot of questions about how I wanted it built.  Shift hardness in each gear?, did I want transmission breaking in first gear? etc.

[plovett]

Go with a street/strip C-4.  You won't be taxing the internals (my 700 HP 510" FE never did), and it will feel like somebody released the emergency brake when you accelerate, compared to the C-6.  C-6s take a LOT of power to run...

I looked at having a C4 built at one point.  I have no doubt they make your car faster.  I've seen 0.15 seconds thrown out there as the general improvement in 1/4 mile e.t.  That's pretty significant.

Still, I looked at it like this.  How much hp would I need to add to the engine to get the same improvement and how much would that cost?  I can't remember exactly, but I think I needed about 20 more hp to get the same improvement in elapsed time.  When I factored in the cost for getting an FE bellhousing for the C4 and the cost of building the C4 up, it didn't make sense for me.  For me its cheaper to find another 20 hp somewhere.

I think on one your builds Jay, which are more "maxed out and scienced out", and you're looking for performance in all areas, it makes more sense.

JMO,

paulie

[e philpott]

I just built a C-4 with Broader parts for a 460 1971 Mustang , I had over 2000.00 in parts with out bell or converter or labor

[Falcon67]

If it has a pro t-brake in it, thats 25% of your figure LOL.  Can run into bucks quick.  Bell, flex and torque converter to hook the powerglide to the 351C in the dragster was over $1000.  Lucky me, trans came with the car or that'd been another $1500.

[e philpott]

Forward Manual VB , 300M shaft , both 6 clutch drums , Kevlar Bands , Sonnex servo and full roller planetary gears

[amdscooter]

Question on the Broader C6 here: http://www.broaderperformance.com/ford-c6-/24-700-horsepower-street-strip.html. Is the tranny shown just a stock photo? The bell housing looks wildly different than the unit in my 67 Fairlane. If I'm buying an off the shelf unit I'd prefer it to be as "bolt in" as possible due to paying someone eases labor rate for the installation.

Thanks!
Scott

It's just a stock photo.  They'll build the transmission in whatever case you need.  By the way that is the transmission I have in my Cougar (with the FE housing) and I love it.  When I bought mine I talked to Jay and he asked me a lot of questions about how I wanted it built.  Shift hardness in each gear?, did I want transmission breaking in first gear? etc.

Got it thanks! What are you guys using for torque converters?

-scott

[plovett]

I have a TCI Super Streetfighter converter behind my C6.  It stalls around the advertised figure of 3600 rpm behind my 428.  TCI doesn't have the best reputation, but I bought this converter used for $45, believe it or not.  So I tried it.  I would say it works really well.  I street drive it and run mid 11's in street trim.

However, if I were to get a new converter today, I would get one made by Broader Performance or by ATI.

JMO,

paulie

[manofmerc]

I have had two tci convertors with issues both destroyed two different crankshafts .Looking at them side by side an ATI looks like it was custom built .TCI appears to be mass produced .If you call ATI for a convertor recommendation and part number .Take the number to summit and the price is much cheaper .I have a 10" ATI in my comet it really works good .A transmission parts store will have a c6 overhaul kit at your stage of build a stock kit will be fine .But you should upgrade five clutches in your direct (third) drum .Five would be nice in the forward drum but if you have four that is alright .Broader has a nice Five plate direct drum it is a modified three plate drum it works really well.Good luck get your current trans built you will be happy!

[plovett]

I've used two TCI converters and both worked very well.  One was a Breakaway converter on a mild engine and the current Super Streetfighter I have.  I'm not endorsing TCI.  I'm  just relating my real world experience.  Still, I'll likely get a custom converter made for my next combo.

paulie

[Drew Pojedinec]

I have a convertor from Broader, and one from PTC.  Both are excellent.

[TorinoBP88]

Yes, that would be a stock photo, the bell will be round for an FE.

so this post, same problem:
http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=4809.0