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Autolite Inline Carbs
« on: March 18, 2025, 09:01:10 AM »
A while back there was a thread on Autolite Inline carburetors, and I was very surprised to see that Kelly Coffield  was offering parts and rebuild services for these carbs.  I had no idea that anyone was doing this; I figured that the carbs were dead ended, with no hope of ever getting parts for them and making them tunable.  As mentioned in that thread, back in the early 1980s I ran a set of those carbs on a home made individual runner manifold, on a 494" 385 series engine that I was running in my Mercury Cyclone at the time.  I did not have good luck with the carbs, but I was pretty inexperienced back then and in hindsight figured that I just didn't know how to make them work.  The two carbs that I ran were eventually sold to a good friend of mine to fund college tuition, and he had them all these years. 

My friend had also acquired a second set of those carbs, and run them with his own design IR intake on a 385 series engine.  He didn't have great luck with them either, and he was a pretty experienced hot rodder, but he did have better luck than I did.  He's in his 80s now, and was looking to start selling some stuff.  After the thread on this forum, and talking to Kelly, I got together with him and made a deal for all four of the carbs.

My wife has family in Iowa and I get down there fairly frequently, so it wasn't a big deal for me to get to Kelly's place, show him the carbs, and talk about the best way to proceed with them.  They all needed a fair amount of work.  The set I originally owned had been cannibalized for parts to use on the other set, and the other set had been drilled and tapped for attachment points for velocity stacks, plus the vents had been tapped to put a screw in fuel filter (of all things) on top of the vent, to prevent fuel from sloshing out of the vent during acceleration.  There were also other cracks and defects in both carbs.  I dropped them off with Kelly for disassembly and his analysis of what the four carbs needed.

The two carbs that I used to have had been polished at one point, and they cleaned up pretty easily, but the other two carbs needed a lot of time to get cleaned up properly.  Also on disassembly of the four carbs, several of the screws that held the butterflies to shafts broke off, leaving the ends of the screws stuck in the shafts.  Since the shafts have to be dead straight, heating them to get the screws out is not a great option.  Discussions with Kelly revealed that he had designed and built what he called a "Big Shot" accelerator pump lever, to increase the accelerator pump volume; the accelerator pump issue was one that I'd had trouble with on my first go around with these carbs.  Kelly had prints for the throttle shafts and the pump levers, so he sent those to me and I took a couple days to machine some new throttle shafts and pump levers for these carbs.  The throttle shafts were tricky because as soon as you put a deep cut into hardened steel you create a stress riser that makes the shaft want to bend.  However I had dealt with this issue before, with the throttle shafts on the IR intake setup for my FE Power cylinder head package, and so was able to straighten the shafts after machining.  When finished I sent the shafts and pump levers down to Kelly for assembly.

In the meantime Kelly had been doing some welding on the carbs, to fix the cracks and ground out areas, and also to fill in the tapped holes that had been used for attaching the velocity stacks and fuel filters.  When that was all finished and welds cleaned up, he also glass beaded the two carbs that needed the welding, to provide a nice uniform satin finish.  He reassembled the carbs with a bunch of new parts, including floats, needle and seats, accelerator pump check valves, jets, etc.  He also put new tags on three of the four carbs, because they had been missing.

The pictures below show the finished carbs.  I was very pleased with the results, and have plans to run a pair on a tunnel port engine (after I design an intake and get it cast), and also a pair on an SOHC, where I will have to fabricate an intake.  Just from an eye candy perspective they are very cool, and I am hoping that I can get them to run reasonably well on a nice street engine.  We will see...









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Re: Autolite Inline Carbs
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2025, 09:28:46 AM »
Oh man that is so cool!  What a great story- reuniting with your old carbs thanks to a thread on here.  I've always had a soft spot for those inline Autolites, ever since I saw some at Carl Holbrook's shop back in the day.
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Re: Autolite Inline Carbs
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2025, 11:48:54 AM »
 Couple of questions, what would you estimate is the CFM potential and how many similar pieces are used in the Autolite 2100 and 4100? Also if these inlines were deemed a performance equal to Webbers would it be feasible to tool up for production?

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Re: Autolite Inline Carbs
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2025, 01:12:10 PM »
There are two versions of the inlines, the B carbs which are the ones I have and are designed for an IR intake and rated at 1425 cfm, and the A carbs which are designed to work on a plenum style intake and are 875 cfm, I think.  I'm not sure which parts are interchangeable with normal Autolite carbs, Kelly is headed out of town at the moment but I'm sure he can speak to that when he is back on the site.

As far as production, I'm not sure that would make any sense unless these carbs suddenly became wildly popular.  Kelly has some of them in stock, so at least some are available through him. 
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: Autolite Inline Carbs
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2025, 02:35:58 PM »
....The pictures below show the finished carbs.  I was very pleased with the results, and have plans to run a pair on a tunnel port engine (after I design an intake and get it cast), and also a pair on an SOHC, where I will have to fabricate an intake.  Just from an eye candy perspective they are very cool, and I am hoping that I can get them to run reasonably well on a nice street engine.  We will see...

Thanks Jay, glad you're happy with them. It was great to meet you. Hope you come up with a good project for them and happy to help when that time comes.

The other recent forum thread Jay mentioned is here.....and there is discussion related to some of the questions above.

https://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=12632.0

The old Ford literature says they have shared parts with the 2100, which is true, just not many. The accelerator pump diaphragms, umbrella check valves, springs, main metering valves and seats, jets and bleeds.....although the sizes of the latter two are not the same. The floats are supposed to be the same but none of the ones in 2100 rebuild kits fit. Other parts are similar but not interchangeable.

As far as reproducing them, I have.....from the ground up as referenced at the end of the previous thread linked above. Many owners of these carbs are collectors and no matter how perfect the reproduction, it's still a reproduction. I tend to gravitate towards those who would like to run them. Occasionally discussion of a 2brl even larger than half the B-carb comes up for large displacement IR engines, but no one was ever committed enough to follow through. It's a small market and if the motivation for doing so was money, I think you'd find it to be very unrewarding. There's also the matter of needing a custom intake to use them, thus my hobby endeavors making them.

So why do I? It's like the old joke, why does a dog.....? -Because I can and it feels good.

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Kelly
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Re: Autolite Inline Carbs
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2025, 08:39:18 AM »
Jay,

As you're considering your Tunnel Port IR Inline intake, I posted my rendition for you MR Adapter in the projects and classified section.

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=11999.msg136864#msg136864

Might give you a few ideas.

Best,
Kelly

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Re: Autolite Inline Carbs
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2025, 09:44:24 AM »
Very nice work, I would love to have these on my junk.
Greg