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Title: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: ToddK on October 30, 2019, 06:19:31 AM
While my 452 SOHC engine in my ‘63 Galaxie had been running good since I had the carb sorted out, I just can’t leave some things alone. With the single 4 dual plane Ford intake manifold and a 850dp carb, it made 427hp at the rear wheels on the chassis dyno. Here’s a pic of the car on the dyno, and the power chart.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9gfVK14/6-D33-AE5-B-CB63-41-F3-B962-02-DB7-F121-D19.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/GtCJn7QX/C1-BAB36-F-6-C8-B-4043-8918-E619-E355-E510.jpg)

But I have always preferred 2x4 intakes on FE’s, and wanted to do that upgrade on this engine. I was lucky to pick up a Dove tunnel wedge SOHC manifold (thanks Jay!). And for carbs, I bought a pair of custom 780vs Holleys that Drew worked his magic on. And while the Ford magnesium valve covers are rare and light, and look good when polished, they do tarnish quickly, plus I prefer they later style valve covers. I bought a pair of repro valve covers from Brent L. So the last few days I have been doing the change over. I still need to sort out the accelerator rod, and it should then be ready to fire up. But so far, I’m happy with the new look.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvPMDSCv/C44615E3-2940-4FC8-98D8-027B064584CF.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/J7GpNvDW/638-B1-D6-D-2-B7-E-43-B0-A321-B3-B3-F5-E2-CCEA.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/141zjD51/0-F0-A552-E-5213-452-C-845-E-EF97226-B3204.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3NvR1thZ/796-A4770-CC82-42-FE-B61-D-64140-B512758.jpg)

Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: Gregwill16 on October 30, 2019, 06:26:08 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: Stangman on October 30, 2019, 06:27:37 AM
That looks sick Todd. Yes duel quads look great dont they. Its all business in that engine compartment.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: turbohunter on October 30, 2019, 07:24:54 AM
Beautiful Todd. Congrats.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: Stangman on October 30, 2019, 07:40:32 AM
Is this the same car that the 406 was in or do you have 2 of these.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: ToddK on October 30, 2019, 08:08:38 AM
Is this the same car that the 406 was in or do you have 2 of these.

Same car. It was originally a Z code, I did the upgrade to 406. I pulled the 406 and sold it, and was going to put a stroked 427 wedge in there before I stumbled upon the cammer for sale locally.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: BruceS on October 30, 2019, 09:01:08 AM
The whole package is first-rate Todd!  Pls be sure and post the dyno nos. with the 8V setup.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: machoneman on October 30, 2019, 09:04:26 AM
Very nice looking and great dyno results. It's a stick car, correct?

But.....can you post a pic of your mag covers for us to see? Been a long time and I forget how they looked compared to the ones now on the engine.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: gdaddy01 on October 30, 2019, 12:00:04 PM
that is just dreams for me , very nice .
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: jayb on October 30, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Looks great Todd, you will pick up a whole bunch of power with the 2X4 setup.  A single four barrel on an SOHC is really restrictive.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: Stangman on October 30, 2019, 01:23:25 PM
Todd was the horsepower 553 on dyno and 427 on drive on dyno?. Thats a big HP drop.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: Drew Pojedinec on October 30, 2019, 01:36:04 PM
Looks great Todd, you will pick up a whole bunch of power with the 2X4 setup

Dual 780cfm carbs certainly will provide enough headed into the intake
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: ToddK on October 30, 2019, 05:15:46 PM
Todd was the horsepower 553 on dyno and 427 on drive on dyno?. Thats a big HP drop.

Yes it is, but it’s not a direct comparison. On the engine dyno, it was running open headers, no alternator and a different carb. So if you factor in the estimated 20% power loss through the drivetrain when going from engine dyno to chassis dyno, the expected figure would be 440hp at the wheel. Add in the full exhaust, air cleaner, alternator and the 427hp figure becomes more reasonable. Plus, I wasn’t chasing glory numbers, I just wanted a good, driveable engine.

The interesting comparison will be the chassis dyno figures with the 8V induction, to see just how much the 4V was choking the engine.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: ToddK on October 30, 2019, 05:20:42 PM
Very nice looking and great dyno results. It's a stick car, correct?

But.....can you post a pic of your mag covers for us to see? Been a long time and I forget how they looked compared to the ones now on the engine.

Yes, it’s running a wide ratio Toploader.

I don’t have any close up pics of the valve covers available at the moment, I’m away from home with work. I’ll get some when I get back home.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: machoneman on October 30, 2019, 07:16:49 PM
Very nice looking and great dyno results. It's a stick car, correct?

But.....can you post a pic of your mag covers for us to see? Been a long time and I forget how they looked compared to the ones now on the engine.

Yes, it’s running a wide ratio Toploader.

I don’t have any close up pics of the valve covers available at the moment, I’m away from home with work. I’ll get some when I get back home.

Great!
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: ToddK on November 03, 2019, 01:56:24 AM
.can you post a pic of your mag covers for us to see? Been a long time and I forget how they looked compared to the ones now on the engine.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hGy7jB12/C559735-E-23-AA-46-BD-93-E0-97-BD34-F312-E9.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/258Zr6hq/A52-C494-B-7911-4971-8023-22-F4-F32-BD95-E.jpg)


Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: machoneman on November 03, 2019, 09:20:45 AM
Ah yes and thanks. No script at all.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: Leny Mason on November 03, 2019, 09:34:53 AM
Wow that is odd no Ford on them, is that a Ford part number on them ? Wayne Jeffers had some made for his Mustang that didn't have Ford on them, He said the turner kids kept saying it was a Honda engine He did't like that, I love your car it looks very nice These are mine I left them dull, Leny Mason
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: ToddK on November 03, 2019, 05:21:06 PM
Wow that is odd no Ford on them, is that a Ford part number on them ?

That is a Ford part number on them, C5AE-6583-U. From what I understand, these are early production, low profile covers that only work with the non-adjustable rocker arms.

I like the look of your engine Leny, leaving the valve covers like that suits the whole vibe of the car.
Title: Re: 452 SOHC upgrades
Post by: Leny Mason on November 03, 2019, 06:23:21 PM
Hi I like the color that they are the only thing that bothers Me is a fire and not be able to put it out, we are pluming the intake manifold now I drilled the intake for port injection now put the intake on and wire it  I still need to fit the distributor to the front idler then maybe fire it. My friend just put a cammer in a 1964 Galaxie last weekend. Leny Mason