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Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« on: September 08, 2024, 11:55:08 PM »

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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2024, 05:12:07 AM »
I mean they're good, but not $11k good ROFL

That company has been advertising those heads as available for months, when no one has had them.  I think they just raised the price real high instead of completely taking them off their Ebay store.
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2024, 07:15:33 AM »
Yeap out of stock so goofy price.

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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2024, 07:42:48 AM »
What on earth is this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334503348161

I have a set on the shelf, I'll do it for 50% off his price :)
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2024, 04:45:06 PM »
27 sold ;D

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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2024, 05:17:04 PM »
He just keeps taking orders and moving the due date.

I have a few sets on order too, but not offering until I get them in hand. 
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2024, 02:33:57 PM »
I ordered from their website, not EBAY and had a similar experience.  Website said they were in stock (and on sale), but they did not have them nor could they tell me when they would be available.  I did get a refund from them pretty quick thankfully.

The good news, I spoke with the guys at Trickflow while at PRI a couple weeks ago.  They confirmed they had issues at the foundry where the FE heads are cast.  They assured me their production is back online and the first batch of new heads will be dropping mid January with a steady supply following after the initial release.  I was able to order a set through Summit while at PRI.  Hopefully it won't be long and these heads will be back on the market. 

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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2024, 02:55:46 PM »
I am direct with Trick Flow.  I hope that will put me in a good spot to know when the next batch will be coming.
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2024, 04:44:55 PM »
At this point, does anyone believe anybody when they say they will be "back in stock soon"?

Not directed at you, Brent, but the suppliers. They always say the same thing, as I've come to expect from people pushing a product. Honesty is a lost skill.
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2024, 05:35:40 PM »
I have been getting little spits of heads every now and again, but I have such a long backlog of people wanting them, they're gone before they get here. 

My fingers are crossed.....
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2024, 07:28:08 PM »
Same here, I got 4 sets after the long delay, then quiet.  The new castings are pretty nice with a little more flow, <10 cfm.  I have one ported set on the bench but 4 others sets sitting on backorder again.
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2024, 08:13:02 PM »
What they told me at PRI was that they had run a couple QC batches after resolving the foundry issues.  Those heads were released at various points last year and sold out immediately.  That could be why they’ve been coming in drips and drabs over the last year.

If you believe what they told me, the first full scale production run will hit the market in a couple weeks. Now how much if that run is already spoken for is another question. I was just happy to hear they weren’t going away for good!

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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2024, 09:02:24 PM »
What they told me at PRI was that they had run a couple QC batches after resolving the foundry issues.  Those heads were released at various points last year and sold out immediately.  That could be why they’ve been coming in drips and drabs over the last year.

If you believe what they told me, the first full scale production run will hit the market in a couple weeks. Now how much if that run is already spoken for is another question. I was just happy to hear they weren’t going away for good!

They’d be stupid to kill them.  Best shelf head for the FE, IMO, and made right in the good ole US of A.
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2024, 11:59:33 PM »
It's a shame they didn't opt to do something about the rocker shaft stand pad height, or at least make Ford spec ones a factory option!
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2024, 12:48:56 PM »
The BBM heads are cast in South Korea in a state-of-the-art foundry, as are the blocks.  BBM is a US based company.  All design, engineering, and testing is done in the USA, and all final machining,  cnc porting, blending, etc. is done in the USA. The seats and guides are also made in the USA.  Quite different from the Chinese knockoff situation.  The South Koreans are also our friends, aligned with the USA.  I am a person who supports US manufacturing of all kinds, but casting here has become hard to do.  I had a conversation with Bill Mitchell at PRI and casting here has become very difficult.

The quality of the BBM castings is top notch, and happening.  Right now I have about 300 BBM heads.  I use and support Edelbrock also.  They have made me 30 Pro Port castings in the last year.  For me, it is hard to argue against the BBM unless we are really moving the ports.  For raised and relocated ports and chambers, I use the Ed Pro Port castings.  For “off the shelf” available heads, the BBM heads are the best heads, and they are available.  I have two guys working five days a week on BBM heads as a separate operation from everything else we do.  The only thing that isn’t done in the States is the casting and initial machine work.  Sadly, I couldn’t get 450 good castings poured in the USA in a nine month period of time the way things are now.   When Doug ran out of the old castings, we redesigned the ports and chamber, and the port and water jacket cores had to be changed, which is a big deal, but they got it done.  A 50/50 US-Korea head is 1000% better for the USA and the FE community than no heads, or 100% Chinese heads. 
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2024, 01:13:48 PM »
It's a shame they didn't opt to do something about the rocker shaft stand pad height, or at least make Ford spec ones a factory option!

It's really a non-issue.  T&D now has a TFS rocker.  Harland Sharp rockers bolt on without any modifications and now there are stands available from sources like Precision Oil Pumps that are offered in shorter heights if necessary.  I've used pretty much every rocker that is available with the TFS head and it's just a matter of adjusting the stand height to get the correct geometry, just like you would do with any other FE cylinder head.

There is a good thing about the raised pads, they are drilled and tapped much deeper and allow for a much longer stand stud (deeper engagement) than other heads.  I did a 445 with a solid roller a little while back and just used a longer base thread stud coupled with some T&D rockers.  No issues there with about 650 lbs over the nose.

The only bad thing about the TFS heads is that they're not currently available.  Otherwise, you can't beat what you get for $2650, while featuring PAC valve springs, and other quality parts.   For what you have to pay for other brands, if you had to buy a set of rocker stands or modify a set, it would be well worth it. 
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2024, 09:03:30 PM »
The point Brent made about the raised rocker stand height on the TFS heads is a valid one. The rocker stand bolt holes on the Edelbrock heads is very shallow, and there are numerous stories of people puling those few threads out of the head castings, often causing valvetrain damage in the process. It is great that the BBM heads are currently available, a couple of years ago, I was trying to purchase a pair of BBM heads, but despite waiting almost a year, there were none to be found. Luckily, I was able to find a pair of TFS heads, and although I have to change out the valve springs, since the only heads that I was able to find were hydraulic roller psec springs, which were too stiff for my flat tappet cam and lifters, but at least I did get a set. I am using a set of ISKY iron adjustable rocker arms, with the POP rocker stands and end supports, which I bought from Brent, which he had machined .220"  shorter, to meet my needs. Even when I bought my TFS heads, they were in short supply, and had been on back order for quite some time, so I got lucky. Now that the BBM heads are available, if I was looking for some aluminum FE heads, I would jump on the BBM heads ASAP. You never know if the supply of BBM heads will dry up again in the near future. As they say, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, and everything that I have heard about all the FE parts made by BBM is top notch.
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2024, 11:59:54 AM »
TFS is telling me 3-4 weeks.  I’ve got a large order of the hydraulic roller heads and some bare heads ordered if anyone wants some of the 360cfm ported heads that we do. 
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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2024, 02:37:26 PM »
When the TFS heads came out, there was grumbling about the taller stand surfaces, and some were machining them down to match up with the usual stand length. It never made sense to me, as it seemed better to keep the solid head material taller (and have more thread engagement) and shorten the stand, as it is just a chunk of metal with no clamping force, and it's length is pretty irrelevant to strength. The problems that some had with extreme spring pressures on the Blue Thunder setup would seem to reinforce this

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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2025, 02:55:04 PM »
Just got my shipping notification for the Trickflow heads I ordered at PRI.  Hopefully that means a steady supply is not too far off for everyone.

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Re: Trickflow heads (Not sure where to post this)
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2025, 03:36:47 PM »
They will be shipping next week. 
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