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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rocker arm to shaft clearance spec ???
« on: June 30, 2026, 11:23:48 AM »
     O.K.,  let's rephrase it this way:  If (generally) we determined that the wrist-pin to connecting rod bushing, or even that of the aluminum rod, clearance, is O.K. at something less than .002" (more often 'significantly' less) and this relationship is having to endure what is seemingly a significantly harsher environmental function, then why do we think the clearance for the rocker arms "needs" to be greater?   ???

     Still, just a question.

     Scott.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rocker arm to shaft clearance spec ???
« on: June 29, 2026, 04:30:34 PM »
Depends on the application.   I've ran .002" multiple times........

     Well yeah, intentionally sure, "in certain applications" or even just rationalized for reasons that have nothing to do with the mechanics of it!  But in general, and consider the similarities, and the dissimilarities, and think about it.  Why are we "wanting" to have .002" clearance?  :-\

     It's just a question.   :)

     Scott.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: scat stroker crank balance
« on: June 29, 2026, 04:17:03 PM »
       Though pictures of someone else's stuff might be interesting, but it isn't conclusively valuable in providing any sort of solution to your predicament as each assembly sum is unique.

       Surely, your "balance guy" isn't still waiting on 'you' to solve this!  ::)   If so, perhaps allow me to make a suggestion, this to aid in the endeavor:  "throw something at it"!  ???  He should understand what that means.  :-[

       Or if, we're going to adopt the position that the crankshaft 'is' "unbalanceable" (it happens), send it back to SCAT and pay to have them balance it!  Just have your guy match-weight the pistons & rods "properly", supplying the bob-weight value and then re-spin the crankshaft when you get it back from them for "refinement" . . . . . . . maybe.   ;)

       Scott.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: swapping used cam from one engine to another
« on: June 29, 2026, 10:43:34 AM »
Is it a good or bad idea to swap a used cam from one motor to another.

     A bit of a "crap-shoot"!    ;)

     Scott.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Rocker arm to shaft clearance spec ???
« on: June 29, 2026, 10:32:59 AM »
    Since this thread was re-started, and previously "it seems we 'all' agree(d)" that of .002" (or so) was 'the' number, allow me to inject (muddy the water  ::)), so what connecting rod bushing to (piston) pin clearance to you run?   ???

    Oh, and to answer the recent inquiry and agree with: 

Yeah is called worn out rocker arms.  Just buy some new ones. 
   :)

    Scott.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: F-250 locking differential
« on: June 24, 2026, 12:19:42 PM »
In your scenario a Detroit Locker would stay locked because of the torque applied from the engine, as it works to move the vehicle, will keep the locker locked.
The differential action of a Detroit Locker only happens when the torque forces are low, otherwise that differential will remain locked due to its ratcheting style design.
A Detroit Locker is locked the vast majority of the time by design because it remains locked until the correct low torque conditions allow it to unlock.

. . . . . . .you do not fully understand the way a Detroit Locker works in a vehicle.... which is pretty common, so you are in a normal place.

     I believe you may fall into the same "normal place".   ???

     Yes, it 'is' of a geared "ratchet" design, and though it does 'transfer' torque as produced from the engine through to the axle shafts, it isn't "torque" sensing in it's operation, rather it is simply "speed" sensing, maybe add "position" sensitive.  Remember it's just a "ratchet" system, where as the ring gear turns the differential housing it's bolted to, the internal gearing doesn't allow either output side gear, and therefore axle, from not turning at least at this speed; but the ratchet feature allows either to turn faster.  So, when traversing a turn, as there is distance differential to be covered, the inside wheel will not be allowed to turn slower in the pivoting maneuver, so it will be the outer wheel in the turn that will "unlock" or "ratchet" forward and accelerate, as being pushed, in order to traverse this greater distance within the same period of time.  After the vehicle straightens out, then as soon as the gear sets realign, the disengaged axle re-locks-up, due simply to the side-springs who's pressure which was overcome to allow the ratcheting effect push things back into this position. 

      One may garner the impression of "torque" sensing because in an instance where the unit is unlocked, when enough torque from the engine is applied to cause the one engaged tire to begin to slip, the unit will catch the slower in motion tire (sometimes with an announcement!  ::) ) in lockup.  But this action was not based on torque, other than that which caused one tire to turn at a faster rate than the other, rather solely by the fact that as the one tire lost traction the ring gear (an associated componentry) sped up and the planted tire resisted, at least momentarily.

      Now once the two tires are spinning, trowing dirt & mud, the unit generally remains locked to both axles, but again this is solely because neither is allowed to be turning at a rate anything less than that of the ring gear, even if this is faster than the overall vehicle's movement; and though torque is what is causing the tires to spin, the unit doesn't care about torque, it's about speed differentials and positioning relationships.   ;)

      Scott.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: F-250 locking differential
« on: June 23, 2026, 06:34:59 PM »
     
There's a scenario with the Detroit locker that I cannot figure. . . . . . . .

      If the terrain is such that when the axle assembly swings in the directional turning process and the unlocked outside axle is allowed to accelerate ahead of the ring gear, that the inside tire should lose traction (slip) and will accelerate in the distance as traveled by the outside axle, even if this may be immediate and minute, at which point when caught-up, the outside axle will re-lock-up because it won't allow the ring gear to surpass it, then under low to moderate throttle load, just that as required to force movement, this axle will be traveling at the vehicles' distance being covered (in its' relative position) and with both tires turning equally in revolution as being locked together, the inside tire will continue to displace/shovel sod as it goes along.  ;)

      This is why the farmer unlocks the differential in his tractor at the end of the plowed row (after lifting the plow) so as to turn without digging-up the field.   ::)

      And this is definitely a disadvantage of "lockers" on truly slippery surfaces (i.g. wet or icy, hard surface roads), as tire "slip" or tire tread "walk" upon the tractive surface is where the "differential" effect takes place and is the inevitable result when the system is being tested.   :o

      Scott.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: F-250 locking differential
« on: June 23, 2026, 04:37:00 PM »
      As I recall, the "Truetrac" product hit it's stride along with the 4 X 4 craze in the late '70's.  Back then "posi", "limited-slip", "trac/tion-loc, etc. (whatever!), was available from the O.E.M. for the rears, but other than for the Bronco, not for the front axles.  Then the tires got bigger, and soon something other than the clutch type differentials were necessary if one actually expected both tires to be turning, particularly in the mud!    ::)

      For the rear Detroit Lockers were for the well-healed, for the less so, "Lincoln-Lockers" (welded) became popular; but what for the fronts?  Either of these, though truly "positive locking" and ensured that all four (4 X 4) were going to be turning in the mud, how could one ask for more.  But particularly as with the front axle, if all of the tires are "locked" together, turning exactly the same revolutions at all times, surprisingly when off-road on a lose surface, you can turn the front wheels to the left or right, but the vehicle doesn't readily change direction!   Been there dun that!    ;)

      So here comes the Truetrac, with that "seamless" differential action that allows the tires to differential when the wheels turn left & right and it works great; but the observant operator realizes that although this product is truly superior to the otherwise "open" unit, it isn't as positive as the "locked" assemblies as it surrenders to the external environmental factors acting upon it's function.  But for the front axle this was an acceptable compromise for greater civility and was in that frame of mind that it was initially marketed.   :)

      Later, as the engine torque outputs have increased, and the public finds new ways to test their vehicles, you'll note that some of these worm-gear guys are now coupling "clutch-packs" to their units.  The purpose here is to provide a certain sum of "preload" to the gear-sets to aid in their functionality; something akin to the idea of applying the parking brake as mentioned previously.  Note that these are "torque bias" in operation, in other words, if one wheel is off the ground, there's a minimal torque application involved to make it turn, and therefore not so great a value being applied to the opposite side either.   :o

      And hence, I would think would be a 'very' poor choice for something particularly like "rock-climbing"!     :)

      Scott.



 

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: F-250 locking differential
« on: June 23, 2026, 10:51:19 AM »
    Utilization of the parking brake is a standard practice executed when the vehicle is solely equipped with an open-type differential.  The "idea" is that whatever enhanced turning force that is required in overcoming the resistance created in the braking force as being applied to the free-spinning wheel is also being distributed to the non-turning, better planted wheel.  And by halting the spinning wheel, provides a torque rise in the drivetrain, this creating an enhanced resistance of rotation within the differential that "might" also participate in giving the other the chance in participation.
   
    And the admission (repeatedly) that one is required to do this in order to achieve reasonable effect from the worm-geared assembly is evidence of it's unacceptability in the application.   ;)

    Remember, the Detroit Locker is a "ratchet system", either wheel (only one) may turn faster than the ring gear, and this is the "differential" function effect; as when navigating a turn the outside wheel is allowed to accelerate ahead of the ring gears' turning rate. It's just that neither may turn slower than the ring gear.  Therefore, technically "lock-up" only takes place when one wheel begins to fall behind and is then gear-locked to the differential. 

    The ratcheting and sometimes resultant "bang" is generally experienced on hard pavement, when for example, traversing through a turn under moderate throttle, the outside wheel is unlocked ratcheting forward ahead of the ring gear, the drive torque is now being applied to the inside wheel as it is the slowest and is locked to the ring gear, and then when greater drive torque is applied in coming out of the turn, the inside wheel breaks lose (just a little) and slips forward enough to catch-up to the out side wheel, which then as the inside wheel is now the faster, the outside wheel is grabbed by the geared ratchet mechanism, the engine torque isn't great enough to maintain both wheels at the spinning/slipping speed, so you get the "clunk", maybe a little upset from the suspension and nothing more.   :)

     Of course, particularly with leaf spring systems there can be significant axle wrap-up that'll accentuate this; and an unknowing passenger saying what-the-F#@k!   ::)

     Scott.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Three piece valve locks?
« on: June 21, 2026, 02:34:50 PM »
    Though the photo doesn't really provide adequate detail, but I don't see the tooling marks typical of "machined" steel locks.   :-\

    Scott.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: F-250 locking differential
« on: June 19, 2026, 09:13:57 AM »
    Any of the "worm-drive" type units provide a resistance function through a combination of leverage and friction and hence do not necessarily establish "one for one" in rotation for each engaged tire; this vs. the "Detroit" which through direct acting gearing provides absolute "locking" if one tire should attempt a "runaway".   And of these worm-drive units their effectiveness is known to lessen with usage.   :)

    Scott.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: F-250 locking differential
« on: June 17, 2026, 10:28:44 AM »
     On the subject of excessively worn componentry, it seems these units suffer from failures in the sense that the carrier bearings have a habit of turning, both on the inner race to differential snout, but more concerning, of the outer race in the axle housing under the caps; so be sure to inspect for this.    ;)

     Scott.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: F-250 locking differential
« on: June 16, 2026, 06:58:42 PM »
      That particular product (and anyone else's) that mounts, that in the fashion of in the O.E.M. case on the pinion cross-pin(s), is really of poor engineering execution from the standpoint of strength.   Aka. it ain't no Detroit Locker!   ;)

      Scott.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: High Riser intake manifold question
« on: June 16, 2026, 12:19:13 PM »
     Yes, the "E" 'was' better, but then the "G" example is better again and is definitely the one you want!   :)

     Scott.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: High Riser intake manifold question
« on: June 15, 2026, 07:47:12 PM »
    I'm thinking you meant "D" & "F", if you were speaking of the 2 x 4 intakes.   :-\

    And if so, there's definitely more to it than that!  Find a picture of each and compare the runner execution.   ;)

    Scott.

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