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Some late ‘63 and ALL ‘64 non-427 FE blocks have those extra webs and cross bolt bosses.  All of those are two bolt motor mount blocks as Gene stated.  The later blocks with no cross bolt bosses and four bolt mounts are also two-web mains.  I’m not sure what they were thinking……..(Ford that is).  Those “extra web” blocks are not exactly like 427s.  There is one main on each side that only has two webs, and the thickness of the webs, and the overall thickness of the main bulkhead is not as beefy as a 427 or a 3-webbed 406.  They are also not as “heavy duty” as a CJ or 105 three webbed block.  I would have to believe that they are still a little bit stronger than a “regular” two webbed block, which were made before and after the 63-64 run of those different style mains in non-427 blocks.

They are not any thicker in the cylinder walls than any other 390 you will find.  I do like those blocks.  I am building a small cube twin turbo engine for a ‘64 Galaxie with one of them.  I have always been impressed with all FE parts that come from the 63-64 years.  I think the company must have been in a good position then.  427s came, High Risers came, and Cammers got designed during that time.  My opinion is that they were more interested in making a good product then.  Something happened  “upstairs” by ‘65.  Yes, they continued to innovate and make neat stuff, but it was all done cheaper and thinner from ‘65 on. 

Side comment…….there were some ‘63 HP 427 blocks that were cast thicker everywhere.  You won’t really notice it unless you see one right beside another ‘63 block, but the head bolt bosses, mains, and cylinders are all thicker.  Some HP 406 blocks are also thick “everywhere”.  Some 406s are the same cylinder bore cores as 427s, but not all 406s are like that.  They did all kinds of stuff.  I wish we had a diary from someone who was in on the thought processes.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: BBM CNC Program?????
« on: June 01, 2024, 11:42:44 PM »
The heads are cast with throat sizes that will accept 2.09 and 1.600 minimum valve sizes.  I have different programs for various valve sizes.  We run the cnc through all intake ports, on every head that is sold, just to touch up the port and keep the product consistent.  There is no worry of “core shift” when we do that.  There are areas that do not need to get any bigger, or be shaped any different.  Making the hole bigger isn’t necessarily better.  All of the transitions from cast to milled are blended nicely.  The places that need to be bigger, are such.  A lot of testing went into the port shape and design.  The cnc work that is done is done with results in mind. Making it bigger just so the program cleaned up completely would actually hurt more than help.  The poster might want to put those heads on an engine and test them before he gets too bent out of shape.  Might be surprised by the results if the rest of the engine is up to it.  He failed to mention that the valve job is perfect, and the blending from the seat insert to the cnc milling is also blended perfectly. 

To the poster:  If you are not happy, and you want to return the heads directly to me, I will refund your money in full, provided they are unscathed.  You will not be able to buy a better head for the price paid with better quality hardware, with a Medium Riser port location, than the head you just received.  I’ve been doing this a long time, with some modest success here and there.  That is high quality stuff you have there, whether it is obvious to you or not.  There is $800 worth of tool steel retainers, machined 10 degree locks, PAC solid roller springs, locators, blue Viton seals, shims, etc. included in that price you referenced. Again, if you want to return them, get in touch with me directly.

BP

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Aftermarket head availability?
« on: May 03, 2024, 09:19:02 PM »
So as of about three weeks ago…..Blair Patrick Enterprises is the only distributor of BBM heads.  We are now handling all BBM head sales.  I get all of the castings, handle all technical questions, do all finish work, and handle shipping to customers.  I did a total redesign of the intake and exhaust ports, and made some improvement to the already very good chamber he had.  The new castings have C8OE-BP casting ID.  The heads are very good.  I offer five different combinations.  The base combo is a CNC clean-up intake port and as-cast exhaust and chamber.  That version with 2.200/1.665 valves will flow 340/240(pipe) out of the box.  The .500 lift flow on the base 2.200 head is 315 cfm. Various versions flow more and less depending on the valve sizes.  A 2.250/1.680 with full CNC job will flow 320+ at .500 and 360 -ish at .800.  CNC exhaust will flow 265-270 with a 2x6 pipe.  Intake valve options 2.100, 2.200, 2.220, and 2.250.  Exhaust valve options are 1.625, 1.665, and 1.680.  I have versions with different prep for enhanced low and mid lift flow, and versions for high lift flow with extremely large cams.  I have six go-to spring packages depending on cam being used, so you don’t have to buy heads and then re-buy a spring package. Beehive, conical, and high end solid roller dual springs.  These are all combos I have used and I know they work.  Cam/lifter/spring packages are available. 


First 15 pairs sold.  20 pairs being cut now.  10 pairs of the second run spoken for.  25 more pairs of castings should be in my hands in the next 2-3 weeks.  The supply looks to be steady for the near future. 

This is one of those public service announcements, so no pricing discussed here.  I just saw this thread and thought I would share the info.  I have a new dedicated phone number for BBM heads and other parts sales.  423-802- two four seven two.  If I don’t answer it, you can text or leave a message on that number. Best chance to get me is between 8:15 AM and 10:15 AM Central M-F.

Hopefully Mr. Jay won’t deem this post inappropriate.  If we can help you guys, let me know.

Thanks,

BP

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Vendor Classifieds / CNC ported "Engine Masters" iron heads
« on: August 12, 2022, 10:59:21 PM »
We are finishing several sets of C4AE-G castings with the ports used when we won Engine Masters.  2.15/1.66 valves, bronze guides, ready for springs.  $2200/pair

If interested, respond to captcj at hughes dot net.  Thanks

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Vendor Classifieds / CNC ported Edelbrock heads
« on: August 12, 2022, 10:50:02 PM »
We have CNC ported 6005 Edelbrock heads in process.  2.200/1.660 valves.  $2500 ready for springs.

If interested, respond to captcj at hughes dot net.  Thanks

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Vendor Classifieds / Edelbrock valves and hardware-new take outs
« on: August 12, 2022, 10:43:39 PM »
Edelbrock 2.09 intake valves, 30° seat, brand new takeouts.  Heads going to cnc 2.200 valves.  Set of eight   $100  Five sets available.

Edelbrock hydraulic roller hardware packages.  New takeoffs.  Springs, retainers, locators, locks, and seals. $200/set.  Five sets available.

If interested, respond to captcj at hughes dot net.  Thanks


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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Horsepower guesses
« on: July 28, 2022, 07:58:54 AM »
Yep, I did post that, but I had forgotten it.  There was 35 difference between my best in testing and my average at the contest, and that is how that stuff goes, otherwise they could just have mail-in dyno contests, or maybe mail-in time slips and then randomly draw to see who we race, LOL.  That would be about as accurate as our elections!  I had better go to work....... lots to do today.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Horsepower guesses
« on: July 28, 2022, 07:20:15 AM »
Doug, we put a fairly mild solid roller in Joe's engine.  He ran a flat tappet before.   We worked on the heads a little, and I spent most of a day on the manifold.  Our plan is to get a safe baseline and then look at all eight cylinders and adjust as required to get AFRs as consistent as possible.  It is good for the engine, and there always seems to be a little extra power in bringing the lean and rich deviations to a minimum.
In the last BT 2x4 we did, there was 14 hp gained and some overall better conditions cylinder to cylinder after looking at all eight AFRs.


Brent, I am curious what other forum you speak of.  I can't recall posting on any forums other than this forum regarding the 2019 EMC.  I don't remember the exact numbers, but I don't think it was that much, although I could be mistaken. I generally wouldn't consider 5% between any two dynos in different places at different times to be unreasonable.

Hoping for a good day of testing today that yields Mr. Joe some benefits.


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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Horsepower guesses
« on: July 28, 2022, 01:15:33 AM »
I have 620 rolling around in my head, but we'll see.  I can't help but just laugh out loud at Lykin's comment about an "averagely generous" dyno.  Typical.  If your piece is good, then, of course, my dyno is wrong.  For any who care, I went to great length to verify my equipment.  While all dynos are different, I took a 715 hp street engine up to Bischoff's and spent a day on it.  We unhooked it and drove straight home and put it on mine.  The DePac system I have has provision to create formulas to make adjustments separate from normal weather correction, which I also have.  We tuned my data to match the results from Tony's Superflow, and it is within 2-3 hp of his dyno throughout the range.  We tuned for Engine Masters on Tony's dyno, and we didn't see a significant difference between his and the JE Pistons facility used for EMC.  Many folks thought that dyno gave low numbers.  I have run many engines at BES.  I know their dyno is as "right" as they get, so I adjusted to match it. 

There are many, many factors that can contribute to differences between facilities.  Numbers are just numbers.  The machine is a tool, but I did need to get an accurate baseline to compare new stuff to my old data.  Proof for the customer is in the seat of the pants, and the ET slip.

I don't come on here very much anymore, because as soon as the opportunity arises, there are comments such as the "averagely generous" to take a shot at our results before we even fire the engine.  It sure is easy to belittle someone's effort by always dropping hints that the data is wrong.

We did our best to build Joe a good piece with a few changes, and most of the parts he already had.  I hope we did good for him.  We'll know tomorrow if the creek don't rise!


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FE Technical Forum / Re: Ray Paquet
« on: September 12, 2021, 12:13:43 PM »
No doubt Ray is a heck of a guy, and he is no doubt the king of the Thunderbolts in Super Stock.  His whole car is a product of years of hard work by an extremely smart individual.

There are no 64-65 Hemi cars with OE style hoods and longer wheelbase that can touch Ray in SS/A trim.  The AH Darts and Cudas do take advantage of some creative rules interpretations.  NHRA has kinda let things slide with them because they only race each other.

Last point.......all approved FE High Riser heads retain the same valve locations and angles as original.  The approved Hemi heads are not the same as original.  If they had to retain the OE valve location and angle, the valves touching each other would limit camshafts, and the FE High Riser would be much faster........even with the short wheelbase and mailbox on the hood that the '68 Hemi cars have.  No telling how fast a '67 Mustang with a Tunnelport and 50 years of massaging those pushrod tubes would be.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: BBM head info
« on: August 11, 2021, 01:29:21 AM »
Comments deleted.  Censorship for some and not for others seems to be the new American way.  Incomplete information is sometimes worse than no information.

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Vendor Classifieds / Re: Edelbrock Performer
« on: August 08, 2021, 08:54:11 AM »
Manifold and valve springs are sold.

At the time of this post, the cam and lifters are still available.

Thanks

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Vendor Classifieds / Three more flat tappet cams......
« on: August 07, 2021, 08:21:13 PM »
1) Lunati #40599.  .643/.668 lift, 256/264@.050 on a 108.
     New in the box.   $150+ship **SOLD**

2) Comp 282S cam and lifter kit.  Been here a LONG time. 
     New in the box.  Price reduced $150+ship **SOLD**

3) Bullet custom flat tappet from way back when we went to
     Engine Masters in 2006.  I tried three cams in that engine. 
     Same lobes, different separation.  This one is on a 112
     and was broken in, and has dyno time only.  Lift .628/.641,
     243/247@.050.  272/276 advertised. No lifters
     $75+ship.   **SOLD**

 captcj at hughes dot net
Thanks

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Vendor Classifieds / Nice used Isky 270 Megacam **SOLD**
« on: August 07, 2021, 07:59:35 PM »
Cam came from a fairly fresh engine that came to me for an extreme makeover.  All lobes have a real nice wear pattern.  I do not have the lifters that were on it. $85 plus ship.  captcj at hughes dot net.  **SOLD**
Thanks

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Vendor Classifieds / Edelbrock Performer
« on: August 07, 2021, 01:08:49 PM »
I have a nearly new, unmolested, Edelbrock Performer manifold for sale.  $200 plus ship.  captcj at hughes dot net.

Also have a used Comp hyd flat tappet cam. XE262H with Comp lifters.  This has approximately 200 miles on it.  Cam and lifters made it through the break-in, and lifters are in order. I still would put some moly on it but it has already made the hurdle in my opinion.  Cam and lifters  $125 plus ship.

*Comp 926 springs and matching retainers from above cam.  $65

Thanks

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