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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2021, 01:03:02 PM »
Very cool of you Randy.
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« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2021, 01:04:34 PM »
Thank you, for the offer, Randy but, I bought Alan's T-pan a few months ago.

I don't think I'll have any fitment problems with it but, if I do, I'll get back to you if you still have it.
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« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2021, 06:26:16 PM »
Distributorless ignition.
Belt drive oil pump.

Still need to drive the cams though.  :)

I bet I could figure out how to mount an idler in the middle without a stub. 
Like a plate mounted to the OEM thrust plate mounting holes with a post, a roller bearing and a sprocket...

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« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2021, 06:51:10 PM »
Distributorless ignition.
Belt drive oil pump.

Still need to drive the cams though.  :)

I bet I could figure out how to mount an idler in the middle without a stub. 
Like a plate mounted to the OEM thrust plate mounting holes with a post, a roller bearing and a sprocket...

I have absolutely no doubt that you could, Barry. It would have to be a sideoiler block though. Not sure how well an FE would stand up to splash lubrication for the mains and rods..lol  Then again, 2 solid plugs with correctly drilled holes could take care of that issue.
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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2021, 07:37:43 PM »
I bet I could figure out how to mount an idler in the middle without a stub. 
Like a plate mounted to the OEM thrust plate mounting holes with a post, a roller bearing and a sprocket...


     But why?      ???

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« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2021, 10:04:52 PM »
I bet I could figure out how to mount an idler in the middle without a stub. 
Like a plate mounted to the OEM thrust plate mounting holes with a post, a roller bearing and a sprocket...


     But why?      ???

     Scott.

You could say that about damn near everything we do....

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« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2021, 02:08:37 PM »
I bet I could figure out how to mount an idler in the middle without a stub. 
Like a plate mounted to the OEM thrust plate mounting holes with a post, a roller bearing and a sprocket...


     But why?      ???

     Scott.

You could say that about damn near everything we do....

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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2021, 09:12:33 PM »
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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2021, 04:37:37 AM »
I'm working on a 427 side oiler block now and reminded myself that the side oiler isn't even a true priority main oiling system.  The offshoot coming from the main oil gallery running the length of the driver's side of the block, splits, and feeds both mains and cam bearings at the same time. 

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« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2021, 07:20:32 AM »
Sometimes, you read stuff and you take it at face value, Brent.  A long, long time ago when people printed stuff on paper, I read that the side oiler's design intention was to make it possible to easily externally adjust oil pressure.  I have also read that as far as durability, there is no difference between center and side oilers, since, again, it was an oil control feature.

If one looks at the oil passage diagrams between the center and side oiler, yes, what you write is true.  It's a split.  Even with that, it's a less tortured path than the center oiler.  And by some miracle, the oil in the center oiler seems to find its way to where it needs to go.  I would think that as long as you don't lose a cam bearing, that you are going to be fine with a center oiler.

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« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2021, 07:24:46 AM »
Sometimes, you read stuff and you take it at face value, Brent.  A long, long time ago when people printed stuff on paper, I read that the side oiler's design intention was to make it possible to easily externally adjust oil pressure.  I have also read that as far as durability, there is no difference between center and side oilers, since, again, it was an oil control feature.

If one looks at the oil passage diagrams between the center and side oiler, yes, what you write is true.  It's a split.  Even with that, it's a less tortured path than the center oiler.  And by some miracle, the oil in the center oiler seems to find its way to where it needs to go.  I would think that as long as you don't lose a cam bearing, that you are going to be fine with a center oiler.

Agreed.  I think the best feature of the side oiler is the cross bolted caps. 

Also agreed that the center oiler does what most guys think it won't do.  My 352 goes to 7500 rpm with increasing oil pressure throughout the entire pull, with only a oil pump mount blend and some strategically placed restrictors.   Given the fact that the lifter valley drains are plugged except for the two ends, there is also no issue with getting the oil back to the pan.  Bearings looked great upon last check.  Buttoned it right back up to hit it another time. 
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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2021, 10:26:08 AM »
are there any diff in the block prep between running a solid vs hyd cam? i am running hyd flat tappet now,thinking about putting a solid in it later and was wondering if i need to do anything to the block.i have been wanting to know for sure for years.
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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2021, 10:37:09 AM »
are there any diff in the block prep between running a solid vs hyd cam? i am running hyd flat tappet now,thinking about putting a solid in it later and was wondering if i need to do anything to the block.i have been wanting to know for sure for years.

It's not necessary in every case, but I usually restrict oil to the lifters when running solid cams.  An .080-.100" orifice is more than enough, even for lifters that oil and pushrod oiling. 

Each case can vary a little bit depending on the parts that are used, but more often than not, you can choke the oil down quite a bit.
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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2021, 11:24:25 AM »
Sometimes, when you consider the torturous, convoluted path that oil to the rocker shafts has to travel, in a stock FE center oiler engine, you would think that there is no way that could possibly be an adequate source of lubrication. Yet, many of us find it desirable to reduce the amount of oil getting to the rockers. In fact, some of the early 332 and 352 FE rocker shaft stands had a small drain tube, to direct the excess oil to a pushrod hole in the intake, so it could drain down, without flooding the heads and valve springs. So it would seem that oil can get to places quite well, even when we think otherwise.
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Re: Oil mods list?
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2021, 01:23:03 PM »
That's a great point, Rory.

It's like a water hose, the more and larger the holes you put in it, the less flow and you have at the end that counts. But, you can compensate for that, with a bigger hose.
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