Oil mods list?

[Blueoval77]

Oh my , this seems to be one of those kinda threads . Right out of the gate Brent there is this thing you keep saying thats just plucking at me every time you say it. "The technology just wasnt there" or words to that effect . Brent you are aware that the Lockheed A-12 Took its first (Publicly released) test flight in 1962 right ? This is where you say this dude is off his rocker  ,whats that got to do with anything... Well it has to do with technology of the Era we are dancing around in here and the Era you say was without some sort of technology to do a thing. This particular plane started life in 1958 . Does anyone reading this thread look at that plane and its stats and say , Man , that was just a rough time in our Technological history ? So the fastest plane the world has ever seen hits the skies in good ole 1962.... With todays technology and the technology of all the years following there has not been one built thats faster or holds the stats that bird has (The SR-71 , the A-12s son).
Around the same time Ford was about to head to Le Mans and I believe it was Barry that posted some information about the test equipment Ford was using at that time. Ford was Dyno testing Engines real time and as close to the real environment as they could , not a few pulls at a good RPM . All of us know how that turned out for Ford . Ford was also doing very well in Stock Car racing at the time. Again , not an environment where the engine sees a few stout blips and is put away for a nice nap.
I could just keep typing and typing about the different industries at the time and what they were doing and some of these old Boys in this forum were right in the middle of it.  Smart people , Brilliant people , I would argue smarter than folks we have today that are riding the backs of those folks that blazed the trails we travel today.
If it was needed and there was sufficient funding  , these boys got it done ,  up to and Including defeating the most powerful military on the globe at the time to create this great country and the freedoms we all enjoy today.
Have we advanced ? Certainly we have . For the better ? Im not sure on that one.
As far as the oiling system..... This is a rabbit hole.... However I will say there indeed must be an "Engine builders hand book" because I hear a ton of the same things from the younger guys . I highly doubt Ford sent engines to Le Mans with off the shelf blocks and unmodified oiling systems , as you say the cave men just made everything bigger , bigger is better . But those cave men go down in history as winning those races and giving us the lineage we enjoy today.
Barry may have some info on the engines they used at that time and what mods they did to them... Hell there may be a few guys around here that know. If you meet your goal and fulfil a need then you succeeded , how you did it matters less than what you accomplished ...  Technology is no more than that.... Years of it.

[turbohunter]

[blykins]

Oh my , this seems to be one of those kinda threads . Right out of the gate Brent there is this thing you keep saying thats just plucking at me every time you say it. "The technology just wasnt there" or words to that effect . Brent you are aware that the Lockheed A-12 Took its first (Publicly released) test flight in 1962 right ? This is where you say this dude is off his rocker  ,whats that got to do with anything... Well it has to do with technology of the Era we are dancing around in here and the Era you say was without some sort of technology to do a thing. This particular plane started life in 1958 . Does anyone reading this thread look at that plane and its stats and say , Man , that was just a rough time in our Technological history ? So the fastest plane the world has ever seen hits the skies in good ole 1962.... With todays technology and the technology of all the years following there has not been one built thats faster or holds the stats that bird has (The SR-71 , the A-12s son).
Around the same time Ford was about to head to Le Mans and I believe it was Barry that posted some information about the test equipment Ford was using at that time. Ford was Dyno testing Engines real time and as close to the real environment as they could , not a few pulls at a good RPM . All of us know how that turned out for Ford . Ford was also doing very well in Stock Car racing at the time. Again , not an environment where the engine sees a few stout blips and is put away for a nice nap.
I could just keep typing and typing about the different industries at the time and what they were doing and some of these old Boys in this forum were right in the middle of it.  Smart people , Brilliant people , I would argue smarter than folks we have today that are riding the backs of those folks that blazed the trails we travel today.
If it was needed and there was sufficient funding  , these boys got it done ,  up to and Including defeating the most powerful military on the globe at the time to create this great country and the freedoms we all enjoy today.
Have we advanced ? Certainly we have . For the better ? Im not sure on that one.
As far as the oiling system..... This is a rabbit hole.... However I will say there indeed must be an "Engine builders hand book" because I hear a ton of the same things from the younger guys . I highly doubt Ford sent engines to Le Mans with off the shelf blocks and unmodified oiling systems , as you say the cave men just made everything bigger , bigger is better . But those cave men go down in history as winning those races and giving us the lineage we enjoy today.
Barry may have some info on the engines they used at that time and what mods they did to them... Hell there may be a few guys around here that know. If you meet your goal and fulfil a need then you succeeded , how you did it matters less than what you accomplished ...  Technology is no more than that.... Years of it.

For crying out loud man, take a breath. 

I'm not sure what any of that was meant to say??  We started with A-12's and SR-71's and ended with cave men. 

I appreciate Barry, but I don't need him to tell us what mods were used on engines 60 years ago.  I have seen the blocks filter through here, with Holley jets threaded in between the main feed and the cam feed, feed holes hogged out to who knows what, and the resulting cracked blocks. 

I'm on here so that guys don't get drill bit happy and ruin blocks. 

And no, the technology was not there......

[Yellow Truck]

Oh my , this seems to be one of those kinda threads . Right out of the gate Brent there is this thing you keep saying thats just plucking at me every time you say it. "The technology just wasnt there" or words to that effect . Brent you are aware that the Lockheed A-12 Took its first (Publicly released) test flight in 1962 right ? This is where you say this dude is off his rocker  ,whats that got to do with anything... Well it has to do with technology of the Era we are dancing around in here and the Era you say was without some sort of technology to do a thing. This particular plane started life in 1958 . Does anyone reading this thread look at that plane and its stats and say , Man , that was just a rough time in our Technological history ? So the fastest plane the world has ever seen hits the skies in good ole 1962.... With todays technology and the technology of all the years following there has not been one built thats faster or holds the stats that bird has (The SR-71 , the A-12s son).
Around the same time Ford was about to head to Le Mans and I believe it was Barry that posted some information about the test equipment Ford was using at that time. Ford was Dyno testing Engines real time and as close to the real environment as they could , not a few pulls at a good RPM . All of us know how that turned out for Ford . Ford was also doing very well in Stock Car racing at the time. Again , not an environment where the engine sees a few stout blips and is put away for a nice nap.
I could just keep typing and typing about the different industries at the time and what they were doing and some of these old Boys in this forum were right in the middle of it.  Smart people , Brilliant people , I would argue smarter than folks we have today that are riding the backs of those folks that blazed the trails we travel today.
If it was needed and there was sufficient funding  , these boys got it done ,  up to and Including defeating the most powerful military on the globe at the time to create this great country and the freedoms we all enjoy today.
Have we advanced ? Certainly we have . For the better ? Im not sure on that one.
As far as the oiling system..... This is a rabbit hole.... However I will say there indeed must be an "Engine builders hand book" because I hear a ton of the same things from the younger guys . I highly doubt Ford sent engines to Le Mans with off the shelf blocks and unmodified oiling systems , as you say the cave men just made everything bigger , bigger is better . But those cave men go down in history as winning those races and giving us the lineage we enjoy today.
Barry may have some info on the engines they used at that time and what mods they did to them... Hell there may be a few guys around here that know. If you meet your goal and fulfil a need then you succeeded , how you did it matters less than what you accomplished ...  Technology is no more than that.... Years of it.

I don't have the standing of many of the guys here who have been at this for a long time, but there are a few points worth making regarding your post.

1/ The A-12 and SR-71 were, what is the term?, MILITARY SECRETS. So no, that tech didn't make it into Ford engine design in the day.

2/ There is a reason no plane has ever flown faster - the need wasn't there. All surveillance work was taken over by satellites. Interceptor aircraft were obsolete because ballistic missiles overtook bombers as the strategic threat.

3/Yes Ford won Lemans and was dominant in Nascar, but as is pretty well known by fans of the FE, Ford didn't put much of what it did in racing back into production engines, so high performance parts for a long time were pretty much just very rare racing parts.

The real conversation is about the need for oiling mods, and to a limited extent, is a side oiler needed today vs a center oiler? I do think while gas seems to be worse, oil is much better, and computer modelling of fluid mechanics is cheap and widely available, which it was not back even into the 90's. I for one am fascinated by the conversation and have learned a lot, as I often do here on this forum.

[Blueoval77]

LOL , take a breath ? No , I dont suffer from internet sensitivity .  Nor do I get very excited often... And again  , YES , the technology was there to do what needed to get done because as we can all see very clearly , It got done...
If you cannot understand the comparisons then perhaps thats why you hold the beliefs you do....

[blykins]

LOL , take a breath ? No , I dont suffer from internet sensitivity .  Nor do I get very excited often... And again  , YES , the technology was there to do what needed to get done because as we can all see very clearly , It got done...
If you cannot understand the comparisons then perhaps thats why you hold the beliefs you do....

If you want to hog out every hole in your block because that's the way they did it 60 years ago, then by all means, have at it. 

In the meantime, I (along with other guys in here that build for a living and guys who do a lot of racing) have shown how to adequately supply oil without doing any hogging, drilling, or anything extensive.   Since drilling can potentially crack blocks and render them useless, I figure that would be useful information to supply. 

Kumbaya.

[Blueoval77]

Now Brent , I think you need a breath maybe. Read back through my post and I dont recall saying that anything should be "Hogged out" , I simply said that modifications have been done and in my opinion (Like assholes) that they did indeed enlarge on engines that did then have to run for 24 hours with a bit more than pride on the line. I also made no assumptions of exactly what was done , just that something had been done .
As for my opinion on to drill or not to drill , I do a little of shutting off AND drilling out....    like the human body , bleed off kills..... Is it the answer everyone should have ? Hell I dont know if its even an answer for me.... Its worked so far and Nothing has cracked in half .
Its a conversation people ................ Conversations lead to technology.....   

[cjshaker]

Barry may have some info on the engines they used at that time and what mods they did to them... Hell there may be a few guys around here that know.

Dang, Barry, I didn't know you were that old!
(getting some more popcorn before his response)

[Blueoval77]

HAHA. I say that because Barry seemed to have some inside info when he posted up that video that time...WHich  , I might ad  , was pretty technologically advanced regardless of time period.  Wait a minute , what exactly does "That old" mean ??