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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2013, 09:50:26 PM »
As far as I know, the flat bar was offered as a dealer installed after-sale fix for instability complaints.  I have little evidence to support this claim, other than 'I've heard a lot of dudes say so'.

The overall improvement in handling for my car was nothing less than dramatic, from positively frightening to positively in control.  Of course, replacing a badly worn front suspension and adding a upgrades at the same time makes it a bit difficult to differentiate which made the most difference.  New springs (AC rate front, six leaf rear), shocks, control arm bushings, ball joints, and the crank eliminator were installed first, all at once.  Abrupt stops no longer require fighting the car to keep it from diving for the ditch or the oncoming lane of traffic.  The drag link, tie rods, and roller idler tightened up the manual steering nicely, though I still need a rag joint.  Understeer really increased with the bigger (1") front anti-roll bar, that was improved by the addition of the (7/8") rear bar later.  I still have some understeer when I'm playing around but that's arguably due to the 275 rear/215 front tires.  Body roll is minimal, ride quality was improved.

I purchased some urethane bushings for the front spring eye, but haven't installed them yet.


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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2013, 10:30:58 PM »
It looks like the bar have been instaled since the
car was new  it have 6 leave springs in the rear
It have  tractionmaster type traction bars with
Ford stamped on them so the first owner
wanted a good handling car
it is a low milage car so stearing and bushings
is thight and nice. My plan is to mount a power
stearing box from a Mercedes or a Opel Omega
they have long sector shaft as the Galaxie box
I havent found any Ford ps box with long enough
sector shaft.I know The Omega box is almost a
bolt on but i rather have a Mercedes if i can make
it fit .I have some different laying around so
i have to see if i can fit one

They should have made the rear sway bar
with more holes to mount the link for fine
tuning



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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2013, 09:45:14 AM »
I've got a complete Ford PS setup, but I think I'm going to mothball it.  Since the upgrades, steering effort has been reduced considerably, and it's plenty tight, so I think I'll just stick with what I have for now.  Have you looked at the Galaxie rack and pinion setups from Wurthit or Flaming River?

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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2013, 10:37:13 AM »
Gents, thanks for the suspension info and sources!  I've been exclusively a Fairlaner so I didn't know much about the ins and outs of the Galaxie front ends and rear suspensions for that matter. Now I'll be doing some investigating on the setup I want.  For sure I want better cornering and overall stability to handle a major future increase in FE power.

Next I'm going to post my thoughts on an FE combination and hopefully get your weigh-ins too.

 
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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2013, 02:05:16 PM »
I have the complete setup off my comet all in good shape just needs new rubber, have the pump and hoses also.

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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2013, 02:55:06 PM »
I've got a complete Ford PS setup, but I think I'm going to mothball it.  Since the upgrades, steering effort has been reduced considerably, and it's plenty tight, so I think I'll just stick with what I have for now.  Have you looked at the Galaxie rack and pinion setups from Wurthit or Flaming River?
I got no problem with the stearing effort but the wife dont like to paralell
park with it ::)
Yes i got the complete stock p/s with a swing-away column laying around
but i dont like the stock setup with ramtube it feels like you cut of the
stearing shaft :D
I saw a r/p set up somewere. It was a SAAB/Opel rack. Probably Pontiac
Chevy something to you in USA
I used them before easy to convert to many aplications since the
midle of the rack moves and have 2 boltholes in the midle where
i bolt a flat bar  with one conical hole in each end for the stearing joints
so its possible i use one of those i have a couple laying around

Yes the wurth-it R/P is a GM frontwheel drive rack

And sorry Bruce for taking over the tread i hope you
got some useful information :-[
« Last Edit: January 30, 2013, 04:19:58 PM by Heo »



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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2013, 05:33:57 PM »
I am going with a flaming river Mustang II rack, it is much improved over the original and lighter to boot. Also it uses a GM variable pump for stabilize steering and keep things cool.

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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2013, 07:55:04 AM »

Have a look at my latest FE project.  My son and I drove from Texas up to Kansas to check it out, and we ended up makin' a deal.  I drove it back home with him following me (just in case!).  As you would expect the old Gal didn't miss a beat!  We cruised at 65-70mph with no issues... The colors are original and called Peacock Blue and Corinthian White.  IMO a nice combo!  The engine is the X-code 352 2V mated with a Cruise-o-Matic.  It also has P/S, P/B, and Selectaire aircon.
The 352 is a little decrepit since it's going on 50 and is going to need some attention soon.  I'll keep y'all posted on the diagnostic results and some ideas for the future!  Bruce

Beautiful Car!  A friend had a all original 64 R code Post car that color with only 4000 miles on it. No idea what happened to the car but think it went to north dakota.

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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2013, 10:46:38 AM »
Guys,
I haven't posted on my Galaxie for a few weeks as I'm getting ready to move back home to the good 'ol USA from my overseas assignment.  Not ready to tackle the engine options with y'all yet, but after hearing a few comments I think a stroker is definitely in my '63 Galaxie's future  ;D

A quick question on the front end thread above, are the crank eliminators and the toe-in bar both needed to tighten things up properly?  Or can I get away with the crank eliminators alone?  Reason I'm asking is I definitely want a larger front sway bar and don't want the toe bar to interfere...

Btw, Chad D thanks for the link to the pics on your front end work - very educational!

Bruce
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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2013, 05:22:25 PM »
If you use the offset shaft eliminator kit, then no need for the stabiliser bar. You will have plenty of room for a bigger sway bar.

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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2013, 10:32:58 AM »
Very nice looking Gal Bruce. I like the '63 and '64 fastbacks.
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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2013, 07:17:33 PM »
My Gal is in the shop now getting the front and rear suspensions rebuilt... I bought the eccentric crank eliminator kit for the lower A-arms from Rare Parts. The shop tells me my new 1" sway bar might not clear as result. Any logic to that?  Do the crank eliminators position the lower arms in the same place as the stock setup?  Thanks for advice, Bruce
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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2013, 11:48:09 PM »
I'm still using the factory sway bay with the offset shaft eliminator kit, and plenty clearance around the sway bay. The lower control arm is not that for off the original position, and definitely drives better than before.

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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2013, 05:11:27 AM »
Thanks Todd, I'll communicate that to my guys today. Bruce
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Re: My Latest FE
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2017, 03:32:23 PM »
Hi Y'all,
This probably sets the record for the longest gap between posts! 
Here's a couple of photos of Blair Patrick working his magic on another 482 Sideoiler, but this one will soon go in my '63 Galaxie!  I told Blair I wanted good idle quality, good vacuum, and enough torque to make a spirited street performer.  The power steering, brakes, and A/C will be retained and the car will be used mainly for cruising and short trips here in SE Texas.  The dyno facility was at Blair's friend Jim Morgan's place.  I've also included the cam card and last dyno run.           

Dyno Run_2 by BRUCE SELBY

Dyno Run_1 by BRUCE SELBY

Dyno Run_3 by BRUCE SELBY

Dyno Run_4 by BRUCE SELBY

Dyno Run_6 by BRUCE SELBY



66 Fairlane 500, 347-4V SB stroker, C4
63 Galaxie 500 fastback, 482 SO 4V, Cruise-O-Matic