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Re: cross ram
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2020, 06:14:56 PM »
yall have some nice looking setups . how would ed cross ram work with a 60 over 428 . cj heads , shorty headers , four speed , in 65 galaxie ? I will inquire about camshaft latter .  street driven .

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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2020, 09:30:03 AM »
I ran a edelbrock years ago on a 390 it ran good mid range was best part.I think if you have room for spacers it may help one day we had the hood off and no air cleaners and you see the fuel blow back out of the carbs.Still have the intake sure wish i saved other parts i had back then.

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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2020, 10:33:27 AM »
yall have some nice looking setups . how would ed cross ram work with a 60 over 428 . cj heads , shorty headers , four speed , in 65 galaxie ? I will inquire about camshaft latter .  street driven .

I put one on a 416 inch "CJ" it originally had CJ heads, iron intake, headers, C-6, CJ cam in a 416 in a 4.10 geared 67 Mustang  We swapped the iron intake for the Edel Cross ram and 2 450 mechanical secondaries.  It ran almost exactly the same, which was very good, very tame, but very fun.  What it did like was a little more pump shot.  It's been many many years but I think we used blue cams and left the shooters the same.  In the end though, had to cut the hood, but it was super cool, well behaved and no downside to streetability
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Re: cross ram
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2020, 09:39:56 PM »
my galaxie has a tear drop hood , will the side to side carbs fit ?

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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2020, 10:14:25 PM »
How about a cross ram with a bunch of carbs? I call it my quad dual or hillbilly split dominator.

Needs velocity stacks that match the valve covers.   8)

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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2020, 10:18:37 PM »
I ran a edelbrock years ago on a 390 it ran good mid range was best part.I think if you have room for spacers it may help one day we had the hood off and no air cleaners and you see the fuel blow back out of the carbs.Still have the intake sure wish i saved other parts i had back then.

Yes yes. Lots of reversion from that intake. Gotta go with spacers or more cubes to pull on the plenums. Or both.

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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2020, 10:21:38 PM »
my galaxie has a tear drop hood , will the side to side carbs fit ?

I wonder about that, too. I'll bet you didn't know I also have a teardrop '65. And an E-X-Ram. Single quad now, 428, 3175 pounds with iron heads, no driver. Sssshhhhh....

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Re: cross ram
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2020, 04:40:07 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2020, 04:45:16 PM »
I wonder how a 3200 pound , 600 horse galaxie would compare to a 5000 pound 800 horse charger , just in time slips , I know the radio may be better in the charger .                                                                                                                                                                                           

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Re: cross ram
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2020, 05:13:49 PM »
Here's a data point that's probably sketchier for conversion than bushels to kilderkins, BUT the Crites teardrop hood on a 64 Galaxie leaves plenty of room for air cleaners over the MT cross ram.

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Re: cross ram
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2020, 05:27:37 PM »
thanks

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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2020, 06:38:32 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2020, 06:40:39 PM »
I wonder how a 3200 pound , 600 horse galaxie would compare to a 5000 pound 800 horse charger , just in time slips , I know the radio may be better in the charger .                                                                                                                                                                                           

You let me know. I don't even have a place to mount a radio.

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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2020, 10:12:49 PM »
Ran an Edelbrock cross ram on dyno a while ago.  Package ended up around the 600 HP range IIRC.  Responded very strongly to having one inch open spacers under the carbs (plenum is super shallow...).  It also needed a crazy amount of jet pulled out - carbs were a pair of basic 750 DPs and they were surprisingly linear on A/F after pulling something like 10 jets (!!!) out.  Scary as hell to tune like that, but I just kept following the A/F, the power numbers, and the plugs until it got happy...

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2020, 10:44:24 PM »
Ran an Edelbrock cross ram on dyno a while ago.  Package ended up around the 600 HP range IIRC.  Responded very strongly to having one inch open spacers under the carbs (plenum is super shallow...).  It also needed a crazy amount of jet pulled out - carbs were a pair of basic 750 DPs and they were surprisingly linear on A/F after pulling something like 10 jets (!!!) out.  Scary as hell to tune like that, but I just kept following the A/F, the power numbers, and the plugs until it got happy...

What was the rest of the package?

A friend of mine years ago had a '58 Ford that, in the 60's, had been an AHRA drag car. 352 with fenderwell headers and the cross ram. He posted a video in another part of the Net of the big reversion fog. His resto of that car stuck with the 352. I can't recall his carbs.

Do you think that 600's would work better?

AHA! I found it. Evidently, he sold the car in 2014. Too bad the pics are no longer there. I guess he gave up on the cross ram and went with a 6V at some point.  https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/1958-ford-custom-300-built-for-ahra-junior-stock-in-1966.922626/