I just measured a stock stand and one of my Erson setups, and found to my surprise that the Erson shafts are substantially higher than the stockers. From the bottom of the stock stand to the bottom of the rocker shaft hole is 0.990", and the shafts are 0.840" in diameter, so from the bottom of the stand to the centerline of the shafts is 1.410". The Ersons measure 1.265" from the bottom of the stand to the bottom of the rocker shaft hole, and the rocker shafts measure 0.698", so from the bottom of the Erson shafts to the centerline of the shafts is 1.614"! That's a full two tenths of an inch, a lot thicker than any rocker shaft tin I've ever seen. I would have guessed them to be at the same height, but obviously not...