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79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« on: June 13, 2019, 12:14:59 PM »
Well we finally got the mustang on the track this year. Two years ago we threw a old wore out 410 with cobra jet heads and comp 292 cam in it and went racing. Our best time was a 12.89 @ 105 mph, which isn't bad for Bandimere.  So naturally we needed to go faster so we got a hold of Brent and bought a stroker kit and stroke it to 445. Brent had a custom cam ground for us. We put C4AE-G heads ported with 2.125 intake and 1.71 exhaust valves. First time out she ran 11.87 @ 114 mph, but broke a rocker arm. So we up graded everything in the top end including the rocker geometry.We went with P.O.P everything including there roller rockers. So last weekend was All Ford fun Day and our best time was 11.58 @ 117 mph. Were still taking easy on things and only shifting at 6000, but soon as we get her broke in will turn it up to 6500. That's the rpm the engine is built to run "hopefully."

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2019, 02:10:57 PM »
Sounds like a fun car. I'll admit I'm a little jealous of the room you have in the engine compartment of the Fox body.  :)

I'm curious what rocker arm you broke? Aftermarket, stock? It's unusual to hear of a broken rocker arm on a mild FE.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2019, 02:55:35 PM »
The rocker we was a stock ford adjustable. It broke right behind the adjuster. The cam is lifting .660 on the exhaust and .640 on the intake. I think the biggest problem was our geometry . We ran it 5 runs last weekend and it ran pretty good. I'm going get in the shop and pull the valve covers and see how things look.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2019, 11:46:44 PM »
Sounds like a fun car. I'll admit I'm a little jealous of the room you have in the engine compartment of the Fox body.  :)


As many of you may know, I first swapped a FE engine into my 78 Fairmont over 30 years ago, and although there certainly is more room between the shock towers on a "FOX" platform, so getting a wrench on the spark plugs or headers is pretty easy, compared to a 67-70 Mustang/Cougar, or 66-69 Fairlane/Torino/Comet, things get really tight underneath. The FOX has large, angled lower control arms that really eat up the space for headers and oil pan. A modern aftermarket tubular K member would free up a lot of space, but they did not exist when my car was first put together.  Front coil overs and tube lower control arms would offer even more space, although personally I don`t like the idea of a nose heavy, wheelstanding FOX putting all that stress thru the very thin sheet metal strut towers , which were never designed to carry the cars weight there.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2019, 07:48:57 AM »
Congrats Mr Rupp it’s always nice to get something together and have a little success. Keep up the good work. It’s funny I was just thinking a few days ago ( is nobody bringing there car to the track this year?).

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2019, 12:01:30 PM »
We are pretty pleased of the way the car is performing for only having 10 runs on the new build. We are still working the bugs out of the new combination. Rory428 is right about not having room up there with the stock K member. We changed everything over to an AJE K-member and coil over struts. it has a Flaming River manual rack and adjustable lower A-arms. Lots of room for the headers, even though we have some tiny ones in there. Bandimere is a hard track to go fast on, considering we don't have a lot of air to work with. But hopefully will find a few more tenths. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2019, 09:34:00 PM »
Yeah Bandimere, the last time I was there was 1986 while I was going to Denver automotive and Diesel. Good times. My buddy had a 455 Rally 350.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2019, 10:19:19 AM »
Do you have a picture of the car? We're at about 50% of the king street races.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2019, 03:26:59 PM »
Yes I do, I will post some pics ASAP. Hopefully will get her back on the track in a couple of weeks. It's a blast going down to the track with an FE powerd foxbody. Most people haven't got a clue what a Ford FE is,but they respect it once they see it run.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2019, 09:09:21 AM »
Sounds like a fun work in progress!

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2020, 05:18:21 PM »
I know it has been a while since I post something on the Foxbody, but here it goes. We were getting the mustang ready for the last race, last year and notice it was smoking pretty bad at Idle. So we decided to call it a season. Well we tore into the mustang last month and found our oil consumption problem. Compression is great, then we ran a cylinder leak down which was great. I've been an auto mechanic for 38 years and been the owner for 15, built my share of FEs and have never seen an intake manifold suck oil until now. We pulled off the Holley street dominator intake and threw on an old Cobra Jet intake and fixed the problem. We going to keep the CJ manifold for one outing just to see what it will do.
Then were going to buy a Trick flow track heat intake manifold and go racing. Now it all depends on when the track opens. Hopefully it opens before all Ford day which is the second Sunday in June. Hope everybody staying healthy.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2020, 09:17:57 AM »
What is the car weight with driver?

So cool to have an FE in there.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2020, 04:55:17 PM »
The car weighs 3100lb with a driver and 5 gallons of fuel.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2020, 05:22:12 PM »
3100 pounds is right about what my Fairmont weighed with the iron headed FE in it, with a 300 pound(+) driver. Since I have lost over 100 pounds myself, and now have a tubular K member on the car, if I put the 427 back in with a pair of aluminum heads, I think it should get to close to 2900 pounds, with driver.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2020, 05:35:54 PM »
We have an AJE k member and Flaming River manual rack. We’re running C4AE-G heads. The 3100 is with me in it and I weigh around 325. There are 4 of us that run the car and 2 weigh 160 and 180.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2020, 08:21:56 AM »
Seems strange that an intake that had been on for some time would suddenly start leaking, unless it was the intake gaskets. I can't see anything else suddenly causing that issue unless the intake developed a crack someplace.

I can see why Fox body Mustangs are so popular; the darn things have a curb weight of over 400 lbs less than my Mach 1. My car, finished, was 3460 without driver, and with my light ass being 140 lbs, that still makes it almost 600 lbs! That's a pretty good chunk of ET right there!
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2020, 01:00:31 PM »
When we pulled the intake you could see on the left bank especially 7 and 8 were the two that were having the problem. So we put the CJ manifold we had laying around and fixed the problem. Were going run it, just to see what the car will do and then replaced it with a trick flow track heat.
FEs fit real nice in a foxbody lots of room. The C6 is a little tight, but works good. Can't wait to get her on the track.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2020, 01:31:38 PM »
When we pulled the intake you could see on the left bank especially 7 and 8 were the two that were having the problem. So we put the CJ manifold we had laying around and fixed the problem. Were going run it, just to see what the car will do and then replaced it with a trick flow track heat.
FEs fit real nice in a foxbody lots of room. The C6 is a little tight, but works good. Can't wait to get her on the track.
Clint

Sounds like it's late to need, but we modified a CJ manifold by making all 4 barrels the same size, then cutting into 2 ovals, like a modern manifold.  Once doing that, you will see the lower plane has a sharp corner where it turns toward the cylinder bank, blending that corner, or even cutting a 45 to help it turn is a big benefit.  We ported it heavily too, and it held 520+ HP to 6000 rpm on a 461 in a 237@.050 single pattern cam 114 LSA.  In hindsight, I wish I would have cut the plenum divider down too, but regardless, it turned out real well.  Something to consider if you decide to chase more power and are willing to grind on some old iron
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2020, 02:57:30 PM »
Ross, I think this is kind of what you're hinting at, cutting the center divider out and everything. This manifold was storied to have been prepped by HM, but nothing other than a story to back that up.





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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2020, 03:22:14 PM »
Yes, the FOX body cars are very light to start with, my 78 Fairmont 2 door sedan was about as bare as they come, 4 cylinder, 4 speed manual, manual steering and brakes, no rear defogger, no day/nite rear view mirror, 1 Pinto style door mirror, no stainless trim around the door frames, it was also the only Fairmont of the 8 that I have owned, that had black plastic inside door handles and window cranks. (all the others had chromed metal). No rubber bumper guards, hood ornament, radio delete,if it had ANY factory options, I don`t know what they would be. When I bought the car in 1986, (it had came into the dealership I worked at as a trade in), I took it to a truck scale, and with 1/2 tank of gas, and the spare tire and jack in place,  only weighed 2680 pounds ! The Fairmonts were the first of the FOX body Fords, and much magazine conversation revolved around how the FOX cars were very focused on weight reduction. Thinner sheet metal, thin window glass, aluminum bumpers F&R, lots of holes punched into the body structure and chassis, the revolutionary (for the time) modified strut front suspension with an aluminum rack and pinion etc.    My Fairmont is still wearing all its original steel body panels, its aluminum bumpers (with energy absorbing cylinders and bracing removed), stock window glass, although I did remove the steel guard beams from both doors), removed the heater assembly and misc un needed bits and pieces. And although I did install a tubular front K member when I put the small block in a few years ago (didn`t want to alter the original Kmember that was modified for the FE), it still has the heavy factory lower control arms and coil springs in the stock location. It still has the stock dashboard, door panels, full carpeting, although the stock seats were replaced with a pair of plastic buckets. They certainly do make a decent platform for a race car, and at the time, they were dirt cheap and readily available. Now nice examples are getting harder to find.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2020, 03:46:27 PM »
My427stang, thanks for the tips on modifying our CJ intake, but we just want to see how the car runs using that manifold. We know it's not going to be enough. The engine is cam to pull to around 6500. We're going to buy a Trick Flow track intake, hopefully it won't be to much.
We have the car pretty well gutted. It's has a Kirky drag seat and a 8 point roll bar. We know there is some more stuff that can be deleted. Still has all the stock glass and would like to replaced the the rear hatch with a fiber glass one ( If they make one ). It is a fun car especially being power by an FE, it turns a lot of heads.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2020, 07:41:47 AM »
Ross, I think this is kind of what you're hinting at, cutting the center divider out and everything. This manifold was storied to have been prepped by HM, but nothing other than a story to back that up.


I typically don't cut that far, I do a notch like you see in modern intake, my thought is that it equalizes pulses more than it really allows cross port airflow, but who knows.  Generally seems to help.

Here you can see how we modified the top, and you can see how close the lower bank is to the plenum floor. This is pre-porting as you can see that 90 degree edge.  As far as the divider, if doing it again, I would have likely put a maybe .750 deep by 2 inch long divider cut and blunted all edges

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2020, 02:43:31 PM »
It looks like you did a very nice job on the intake. Why did you stay with the CJ manifold and not update it with an aluminum single plane? We just order a track heat for our 445.

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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2020, 03:04:40 PM »
Well were finally taking the Mustang to the track on Wednesday for test and tune. Remember we were having a problem with the intake sucking oil, so we put an old CJ manifold on to see if that would cure the problem and it did. We have a Tick flow track heat for it, but were curious to see what the CJ manifold would do. Bandimere is having all Ford day Sunday so we want make sure were ready. Best run with the Holley Street Dominator is 11.58@ 117mph and that's with it sucking oil. Can't wait to see what she'll run now with it just burning 110 and know oil. I keep you guys posted. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2020, 12:29:33 PM »
Ran the Mustang last night, and it ran pretty good. We only got 3 runs in. First run it turned a 11.75 @ 115 mph, next run 11.68 @ 116 mph and last run it ran 11.80 @ 114 that run was mostly driver error the car ran well. We can definitely feel the lack of flow from the intake at the top end. It struggles to hit 6000 rpm at the traps, but it does have more bottom end coming out of the hole. Fun Ford day is Sunday so we are going to run the set up we have now. Our gold now is just be consistent and win some races. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2020, 01:02:41 PM »
I think I'm going to run down there Sunday and watch my uncle Doug run his '64 Fairlane. What does your car look like? Doug's '64 is aqua w/ a white top.
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2020, 02:54:37 PM »
Our car is a light blue 79 Foxbody mustang. The paint on the car is not very good. Just look for enclosed red trailer hook to a 2017 white 6.7 powerstroke. There will be a 69 red Ranchero and yellow and black bronco there also. Just ask for Clint. Hope to see you.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2020, 12:48:31 PM »
The Mustang ran good at Fun Ford day, we didn't run any faster then we ran last Wednesday, which we weren't surprised. The outside temp was 93 degrees so the track was well over 100, but the car never missed a beat. Our first and only elimination round we drew a track veteran and he spanked us good. There was plenty of FE powered car running very strong. All in all it was a good day of racing, because we drove the car off the trailer, raced it and then drove the car back on the trailer. Next is to put on the Trick Flow intake and take her back to the track and see what she does. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2020, 01:00:56 PM »
It looks like you did a very nice job on the intake. Why did you stay with the CJ manifold and not update it with an aluminum single plane? We just order a track heat for our 445.

I think I missed this one, this was for a hidden stroker in a concours-driven 68.5 CJ 4 speed 4.30 car.  Owner wanted stock.  I learned a few things on that one, but made good power

Here's the write up
http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=7690.0

and a pic on the dyno during some experimentation


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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2020, 01:10:26 PM »
We notice more torque in the hole, but ran out of breath at top end. The CJ intake was stock and not ported. The only reason we used it was to see if it would cure our smoking problem which it did. What was cool was the fact the engine was cast iron from the intake manifold, heads and block and still run 11s at altitude. Clint

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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2020, 11:48:46 AM »
Well we finally got the Trick Flow track heat intake manifold installed on the 445. Took the car to the track yesterday and we really weren't sure how the intake would change things. We did jet the car up, from 87s square to 94s. When we were running the Holley Street Dominator we had 92s for jetting and seemed about right the plugs look really good. We don't have an 02 sensor so we have to do it the old fashion way by reading the plugs. When we had the Cobra Jet intake on we had lots of low end and not so much on the top end. The Dominator intake was pretty good all the way through the RPM range. Now the Trick Flow intake seems to give plenty of low end. We Foot brake launch at 3000 which is a little low for our cam, and we were getting some wheel spin coming out of the hole. the top end was great the car pulled hard all the way through the traps. We're pretty sure we founds some horse power now we just need to figure how to get it to the ground. The best run out of 3 was 11.77 @ 114 which is off our best by 2 tenths, but we're sure there's more to be found. Stay tuned. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2020, 02:26:37 PM »
Took the Mustang to the track last Wednesday to do some more testing and it is probably the last time we will run it this race season. It ran pretty good, but my buddy that was running the car said he could feel something breaking down on the top end. We got 4 runs in and the best was 11.66@ 115mph. We only had 1 run that we won't talk about, all the rest were with in a tenth of each other. One racer challenge us to a grudge race so we said sure. It was a 64 Ford F-100 short bed 2wd with a stroke 351w with efi. It runs consistent low 12s, so realistically we should clean his clock. He got us out of the hole about a half car, but we ran him down at the other to win the race. We thought that's a good note to end the season on. We did have few racer come over to the car and could not believe we running an FE. They were very impressed and amazed on how well it fits and runs. Well that's it for this year, hopefully will be faster next so year I can post some impressive numbers. We do have some thing were going change on the car, that hopefully will make her faster or not. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2020, 02:52:57 PM »
Very nice glad you had a good year

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2020, 07:17:43 AM »
 X2, nothing broke.
No problems at the same rpm but in lower gears? Do you have a data logger?
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2020, 12:55:26 PM »
No we don't have a data logger wish we did, so we have to do it old school. It does it when we burn out, but it come out of the hole really strong and we can't feel any miss. It seem like it only does it in the higher rpm, like right when we shift, and when we go through the lights. We kinda think were running out of gas, or maybe a plug breaking down. Will find it this winter I hope. The plus to this season was we drove the car off and on the trailer every race and it was with it's own power. Hopefully next year we will post some time that will be impressive, I no this year was pretty boring. I believe the car has low elevens or maybe a high tens we just got find the right combination. Until next year. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2021, 05:23:27 PM »
Well it's back to work on the Mustang, hopefully will be a little faster this year. Track opens the second week in April, with a two day test and tune. So that gives us around a month and a half to get the car ready. First thing we are doing is upgrading the headers. We're going from 1 3/4 to 2" primaries with 3 1/2 collectors. The other major thing is we want to go with a different torque converter. The one we have now stalls right at 2800 RPM, but the cam we have starts to make power around 3500 RPM. We have a couple of places around here that will build us a converter to work with our combination, all it takes is money. Well that's it for now, I hope everybody stay healthy.Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2021, 06:48:30 PM »
I hope to see you down there at some point this summer! We bought a car as a roller and have an engine in the works, I'd really like it to be on the track this summer!
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2021, 01:01:39 PM »
That sounds great, it's always good to see another FE powered race car. We are very out numbered. People can't believe we got an FE to fit in a Foxbody Mustang, and then when make an 11.5 N/A run. They really take notice. Well mbrunson427 hope to see you this summer tearing up the track. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2021, 04:28:32 PM »
Here's a quick update on the old 79 Foxbody. We finally received the new headers from RCI. They did a fantastic job. We're going get them fitted this weekend, and then send them out to Jet-hot and have them ceramic coated. I been reading some of the old threads, about how much advance we need to run for timing. The way it looks we are not running enough total timing at all. Our initial timing now is 16 and 33 total at 2800 RPM. The heads we are running are C4AE-G. They are ported with 2.125 intakes and 1.71 exhaust. So what I been reading in the threads is cast iron ford heads like more timing. I know in the old days when we did a tune up here in Colorado we always advanced the initial timing 4 to 6 degree's more then what the factory wanted. We don't have access to a dyno, will have to play with it at the track, which opens this weekend. Well that's it for now. Clint

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2021, 10:20:40 PM »
I'll bet you will end up with 38-40 total...
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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2021, 07:42:02 AM »
Yep, or more.

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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2021, 12:18:24 PM »
I was thinking we need to be at least 36, but you guy's are thinking more like 38 to 40? Another thing were not sure about is if we have the total advance coming in at the right rpm. It's a never ending quest to go faster. Thanks for all your help it's greatly appreciated. Clint

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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2021, 12:35:42 PM »
I was thinking we need to be at least 36, but you guy's are thinking more like 38 to 40? Another thing were not sure about is if we have the total advance coming in at the right rpm. It's a never ending quest to go faster. Thanks for all your help it's greatly appreciated. Clint

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« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2021, 07:59:16 PM »
What is it when you pay $1200.00 for custom fit headers and they don't fit. They fit good as long as we don't use the oil pan. Will make them fit, isn't that why you have a welder and a torch? Clint

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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2021, 08:59:54 PM »
Clint, we're trucking right along with our 68 Mustang drag car. Waiting on trans. Going to start wiring the car next week. Still hope to see you out sometime this summer!
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« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2021, 05:02:27 PM »
mbrunson427, I can't wait to see your Mustang, and I bet she going to be fast. I think we found an oil pan that will work with our headers, we are keeping our fingers crossed. My shop is in Littleton, the name of it is Gorman's Tool Chest. Come down and we can BS about fast FEs. Clint

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« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2021, 09:24:28 AM »
Just looked it up. I actually have a summer project in the neighborhood. Force Elementary School. I'll hit you up sometime soon!
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« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2021, 12:49:12 PM »
Sounds great, come over anytime. I do my running in the mornings. Afternoon is the best time to catch me. We just picked up a 1050 dominator for the mustang, can't wait get that on. Clint

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« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2021, 02:46:33 PM »
Well we finally got the new headers installed and it's just in time for All Ford Day this weekend. It will be the first time we raced this year. All we changed from last years set up is bigger headers and were going to run more timing. Can't wait to see how she runs. Clint

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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2021, 03:13:17 PM »
Did you make it there Sunday? I couldn't go, we finished moving my grandpa Sunday. My uncle Doug was there in his green '64 Fairlane. Our friend John made it in his red '67 Fairlane, and my other relative Mike made it with his supercharged flathead powered Kellison dragster.
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« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2021, 01:52:36 PM »
Yep we made it. The Mustang ran ok. The best run was 11:81 @115 mph, that's about 3 tenth slower then our best run. We're pretty sure we have the car WAY over jetted. I guess it's time to get the 1050 dominator on and tune the motor to it. We did run some more timing and I think that helped having the jetting way out of wack. It gave it time to burn all that fuel we were force feeding it.
I'm pretty sure I met your uncle Doug a few years ago at an All Ford Sunday. I'm sure I saw all your family and friends run. It's to bad you couldn't make it, because it was a great day of racing. Well have a good one, can't wait to see your mustang out on the track. Clint

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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2021, 03:50:30 PM »
Quick update. Took the Foxbody to the track last night, and just played with timing and main jets. Got three runs in. Went down to 87 in the front and 88 in the rears, ( because we didn't have 4 88s ) and set the timing at 38. First run it ran 11.71 @ 108 mph car got a little lose at the traps so my buddy let off. Pulled a plug and it look pretty good, maybe a little rich. Kept everything the same for the next run. It ran 12.01 @ 112 mph. Have no idea why so slow. Pulled a plug it looked real good. We have been shifting at 6000, I told my buddy to shift at 6300 this next run. It ran 11.53 @ 117 mph. That is the best run to date, at least we're going in the right direction. That's it for now. Clint

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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2021, 07:04:27 PM »
Its nice when things start to come together. I cant wait to get back out there. Do you know the powerband of the motor. Did he say it was still pulling at 6300 maybe it want more RPM.

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« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2021, 01:52:36 PM »
 Yes he said it was still pulling hard when would shift. Everybody on the race team wants to bring the shift point up to 6500 rpm. I guess it's time to turn it up. The engine has been built to do it, so lets see what happens. Clint

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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2021, 03:55:47 PM »
That is great!
What is the car launching at for rpms? How are the 60’ times?
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« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2021, 12:21:28 PM »
We're launching at 3000 rpm off a foot brake. The 60' time's are not great. They around 1.65 with the best being 1.61. I think one of our next steps is a different converter.

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« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2021, 01:28:42 PM »
Here's update on the 79 Foxbody. We had a good season with the Mustang. The down part of the season was we only got down to the track twice this year. The good news is the car is getting faster, but we only got 10 runs in. We spent $2000.00 and only went 3 tenth faster, but that racing.
So the changes were going do this winter is, new steering column so we can remove the steering wheel. Then I can get my fat butt in it, and race it myself. install a starter retard box, then we will lock out the distributor, and the last big change is install the 1050 dominator.
Well that it for now, let you know how she runs in the spring. Clint
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« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2021, 05:20:45 PM »
2000 dollars and 3 tenths that dont sound to bad. At least nothing broke.

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« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2021, 09:34:45 PM »
That math makes sense. I spent double that on a Jerico and some bigger tires/rims and picked up 6 tenths.
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« Reply #59 on: November 19, 2021, 12:45:52 PM »
Amen!!!

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« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2022, 05:54:27 PM »
Well it's time to get the Foxbody back in the shop to get it ready for this year's race season. We're not doing anything to big this year. We're changing carburation. We've been running holley 850 double pumper, but I picked up an older 1050 dominator, so that's getting installed. The only thing that sucks is we just got the 850 dialed in. We just want to see what the dominator will do, hopefully it will make us faster. Can't wait to get to the track and see what happens. The only other upgrade is, were going change the steering column to a Motion Race works chromoly light weight steering column. The biggest reason we're going to that, is so we can remove the steering wheel. That way I can fit my Oversized (you know what) pass the roll bar. Well that's it for now, I hope everybody having a good winter.
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« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2022, 09:31:11 PM »
Thanks for the report. This winter is awful boring with no motor. Keep us informmed

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« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2022, 05:07:50 PM »
Will do, we're headed to the Tri-State Automotive swap meet this weekend. Hopefully will find some cool stuff for the Mustang. Seem's like we always come back with 9" spool. In the last 3 year's we've pick up 2 31 splines and 1 35 spline, all under $50.00 a piece.
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« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2022, 01:02:52 PM »
Hi everybody, I just thought I would give you a quick update on the Mustang. We haven't made it to the track yet, been just to busy here at the shop. But that's what pays for the racing. Last night we started getting the 1050 fitted to the intake, as you all know it's a little different set up then the old 850. Another piece we are changing is the thermostat housing. The top radiator hose came off the stock Ford thermostat housing last year in the trailer after we had made a run. Thank goodness it didn't come off during the run, that could have been very bad. I know we should have made sure the clamp was tight, but we had no indication we had a problem. The new thermostat is a Billet Specialties, its has a nice lip around it, way better then the stock housing. It's O-ringed sealed and you can adjust the angle. The one other update is we're replacing the stock steering colunm with a Motion Raceworks chromoly steering column. It should be here next week.
Well that's it for now.
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« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2022, 08:55:55 PM »
thanks for the update clint I hope you get out soon.

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« Reply #65 on: July 11, 2022, 01:17:37 PM »
Well we finally got the Mustang down to the track Saturday. Now the only big change, was we went from an 850 double pumper to a 1050 dominator. We really didn't no what to expect. So the first run we took it kinda of easy, and it ran an 11.67 @ 117mph. So the second run, we left off the 2 step and shifted at 6000 rpm. We ran 11.57 @ 117mph. The car just kept getting better every run. We got 5 runs in all together. Made 3 elimination rounds, with breaking out on the last run with a time of 11.501 @ 117mph. The track we race at is Bandimere, the track temperature the last run was 130 and corrected altitude was 9800. All in all it was a great day at the track. Saturday was a points race, but we have one more test and tune before All fun Ford. So hopfully we can dial her in a little better. The car was a solid 11.70s with the 850, now it seems like its a pretty solid 11.50s. So the 1050 seems to be worth 2 tenths, at least we're going in the right direction.
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« Reply #66 on: July 11, 2022, 05:41:18 PM »
I'm going to miss all ford day for the 4th year in a row now, I have a trip planned again. I've been hoping to run into you at the track and watch that car run but it hasn't worked out yet.
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« Reply #67 on: July 11, 2022, 07:10:40 PM »
That’s cool. Sounds like a (relatively), easy way to find a couple tenths.
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« Reply #68 on: July 11, 2022, 10:15:13 PM »
Excellent Mr Rupp what a great feeling right. Ya know ya keep poking and prodding for a little extra and then boom 2 tenths. Glad for ya now play with that carb for another tenth. Actually your right at the 11.50 class leave it alone and go some rounds

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« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2022, 07:51:57 AM »
Haven't followed your build but are you running a 445 cube FE in that Mustang?

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« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2022, 09:10:20 AM »
No a 486 but hopefully I will get it back in the car soon.

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« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2022, 01:06:05 PM »
Yes that's right, we're running a 390 block, bored 40 and a Scat 4.250 stroked crank with Scat H beam rods. Heads are C4AE-G with 2.12 intake valves and 1.71 exhaust valves. The heads are mildly ported. Intake is an unported trick flow track heat. Pistons are RaceTec, right at 13.1 compression. The rockers, shafts and supports are all P.O.P. Thats the build, kinda of in a nut shell. The transmission is a C-6 with a 10" converter. The rear gear is a 9" with a 31 spline spool with 4.11.

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« Reply #72 on: July 12, 2022, 10:35:43 PM »
Nice build, 13 to 1 she must sound pretty good.

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« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2022, 01:15:34 PM »
It sounds really strong. We went from 1-3/4" primaries going into a 3" collector, to 2" primaries going into a 3-1/2" collector. Then we sent them to Jet-Hot and had them ceramic coated. That really helped reduce engine compartment heat.

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« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2022, 02:59:46 PM »
Here's an update on the 79 Foxbody racing season. It's was Fun Ford Day at Bandimere last Sunday. We raced 4 different Fords, but only the Foxbody is FE power. The other 3 were a 79 Bronco with a 545 385 series, 66 Mustang 351W and 90 short bed F-150 with a 302. The Foxbody did well, we had our fastest run ever, 11.48@ 118 mph. We ran that back to back. The track temperature was over a 100 degrees, but the car ran very good. Our first race we went up against a 64 Thunderbolt clone, not sure of the power plant. We dailed in with a 11.48 and he dailed at a 11.35. It was a good race, but the little foxbody took him from the start and never looked back. We lost the next race, because we red lighted. All in all it was a good day of racing, and the car is getting faster!!!
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« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2022, 07:26:19 PM »
New low ET on a tough day.
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« Reply #76 on: August 03, 2022, 06:05:57 PM »
The Mustang was running pretty good. The next thing we need change is the torque converter. We can only get it to stall around 2800 rpm, which is well under the cam. Our sixty foots are only 1.65s. So were slow out of the hole.

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« Reply #77 on: June 19, 2023, 02:17:13 PM »
Well we finally got the Foxbody down to the shop. We're not doing any performance changes besides the normal jets and timing stuff. The next for that will be a different torque converter.
What were doing before we will be race ready, is we are installing a Motion Raceworks chromoly light weight steering column with a removeable steering wheel. That way us larger drivers can get pass the roll cage. ( If you know what I mean ) Since were doing that we're going to go ahead and replaced the dash with a Scott Rod aluminum dash. That way we can get rid of all the wiring that we don't use or need, and we shave off some weight. Hopefully we'll get down to the track in a couple of weeks.
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« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2023, 04:24:31 PM »
Well we finally got the Foxbody down to the track. The car ran well, but the driver sucked. ( Which was me ). I was 6 tenth over our best times. This was the first time is six years I have raced the car, and the fastest I've ever been is 13.1 @ 101. Now it runs 11.4 @ 118. We have a lot of new gadgets in the car that I have never used before. I only got three runs in, and got better and faster each run. ( The second run sucked so I won't talk about that one.)
It was Fun Ford Sunday so there was a lot of cool Fords there. Since Bandimere is closing the doors after this season, there was over 750 register to race. It took until 11.00 pm to get everything done.
We raced 4 different Fords a 79 Bronco with a 545 big block ford, a 66 Mustang with a 351W the foxbody 445 FE and a 92 short bed Ford pick-up with a 302. They all were still in one piece and running at the end of the day. I would say that's a good day at the race track.
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« Reply #79 on: August 10, 2023, 10:01:05 AM »
So the car has gone 10.8?   Nice you got to get some seat time. I was at track on the 2nd. First time this summer.
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« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2023, 12:52:55 PM »
No I was 6 tenth over our best time. The best run I had was 12.04 @ 113. I don't think the teams going let me run the car anymore.
In my defense I was getting faster each run. I just need more seat time.
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« Reply #81 on: August 31, 2023, 02:28:29 PM »
Well we finally got back to the track. We ran the best time for the car which is 11.40@118.9 mph. I know that doesn't sound that fast to most of you guy's. It is hard to make power up here because we don't have a lot of air to work with. We really believe with a little more tuning, and a different converter we can get in the low elevens maybe the high tens. Thats if the moon and star are align perfectly.
Thats it for now, thanks for listening.
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« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2023, 10:28:05 PM »
Nice Clint I follow you and I know the pain of trying everything to get more time good luck keep us informed

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« Reply #83 on: September 13, 2023, 12:11:33 PM »
Your times aren't bad at all using NHRA's altitude correction factors down to a sea level track brings your numbers to 10.60 @ 127 mph..........Jim Kramer

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« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2023, 06:53:28 PM »
We hit the track last night for test and tune. The car ran really good, We only got two runs in. The track was pretty loose. My son ran the car the first run and had a hard time keeping it on the track. He ran 11.76@111mph and that's letting clear off the throttle at the 1000 foot mark, then getting back in it to finish the run. Now my run was not good I did about everything wrong, except my run was straight down the track. It was still a good day racing, the car loaded in the trail under its own power.
Were headed back to the track next Wednesday hopefully we can run some fast times!!!
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« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2023, 02:24:36 PM »
We hit the track last night. Again we only got two runs in. We had a rain delay, and there were just alot of cars. I didn't run the car this time, our last member of the race team did. He set a new low et and mph for the car, and with a not very good 60' ( 1.68 ). The car ran 11.34@ 120 mph. The second run wasn't good, because the line lock button fell apart. So he really didn't get the slicks hot. The car ran great, but not a good time.
Hopefully we can get the line lock button fixed and hit the track next Wednesday.
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« Reply #86 on: October 16, 2023, 06:33:58 PM »
We have done a lot of racing this past month. We have hit 4 test and tunes and on Saturday we raced a fall series bracket race. It was only 1/8 mile. That was a first for our team. The car ran great!!!! We didn't change anything, just ran it like we were running 1/4 mile. Our first run we set our best 1/8 mile. The car ran 7.25@ 94.84mph. We only got one time trial, before going into elimination. We put 7.25 for the dial in knowing the car would run that. We went 2 rounds. The first round I red lit but the guy I was racing red lit worse. The car ran 7.35 @ 93.95. The second round I drew a track veteran so I knew I had my hands full. I forgot to mention I was running the old geezer class, so there was all kinds of cars. Including race cars with all the electronics, and me running a foot brake car with a two step. The guy I was racing dialed in with a 6.5 and we dialed in with a 7.25. So I knew I had to be on the ball. I had a decent reaction time, but it wasn't good enough. He beat me by 2 100th. I gave him run for his money. I really though I beat him, but I didn't run my dial. I ran 7.37@94.04mph.
It was a great day of racing, and last day we will be racing at that awesome track. Hopefully Bandimere will build us a new track in a year or two.
Next year we will being racing in Pueblo Colorado which is about 2 hours from home.
Well thats it for now.
Thanks for listening. GO FE POWER!!!!!!
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« Reply #87 on: October 16, 2023, 09:26:00 PM »
Nice Clint sounds like you had a great year.

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« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2023, 11:13:00 AM »
Clint, have you seen this?

https://www.driveascent.com/

It's on the east side of DIA, the land literally shares a fence with DIA. If they rebuild the track as part of this development it would be wonderful for me. At work I received the drawing set for the site civil construction, so it sure seems to me that it's all moving forward.

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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #89 on: October 17, 2023, 04:52:47 PM »
Nice that you got some end of season hits in! My local track’s last TNT is Friday.
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Re: 79 Foxbody Mustang FE 445
« Reply #90 on: October 17, 2023, 05:33:00 PM »
Ya we tried to get every run we could before the end of the season. There is one more race this weekend and that will be it for Bandimere. Unfortunately we can't be there, were getting ready to go Elk hunting.
6667fan, good luck on your last TNT. Go straight, fast, and safe.
mbrunson427, I hope your right and the new Bandimere is on the way.
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