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octane.music

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352 - boost?
« on: January 01, 2019, 11:22:50 AM »
Hi all.

You may have noticed, I'm new here!

I'm currently looking into buying a '63 Galaxie Wagon, which as it stands has a stock 352 motor in it which runs. Simple question - do they take boost well / at all, and if so, what's the best way? The main reason I ask is that I'm in the UK, it's in the the USA and it will make a difference to help me choose whether to actually buy it or not, as there will be some financial constraints involved (I already have a '65 Galaxie 500 over here, it may have to get sold to fund the '63) as I have to factor in the shipping costs.

That's all for now, thanks!

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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2019, 04:19:02 PM »
Well...i would be very sceptical to supercharge an old tired engine whether it is
a 352 or anything else



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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2019, 06:58:33 PM »
On the other hand buy the wagon.
It’s one of the coolest.
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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2019, 07:35:42 PM »
Buy a strokerkit and send it whith the car and save a lot of shipping
and taxes and custom fees. And rebuild the engine
I had to carry mine home in suitcases ;D
« Last Edit: January 01, 2019, 07:39:31 PM by Heo »



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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2019, 08:34:42 AM »
I think it all depends on how much boost you want to run.  If you are only looking at 5-7 pounds of boost, and the engine is in good condition, I wouldn't be afraid to run it like that.  If the engine is old and tired, then I'd agree with Heo that you should probably go through it before you try to add boost.  And the stroker kit is a great idea too, because you won't pay much more for that than you would getting the engine rebuilt with stock components, plus the stroker kit will have better rods and pistons, allowing more boost if you ever want to go there.  Of course, with the price you are paying in the UK for fuel, maybe you want to keep it a 352. 

Tell us more about the goals you have for the car, and that will help us give you a better answer.  By the way, where in the UK are you located?  I used to get over there fairly frequently on business, although I haven't been for five years or so. 
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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 03:44:03 PM »
Cheers for the replies so far guys.

The engine will get looked at as soon as it arrives (should I buy), and I'm not daft enough just to throw a turbo on an unknown motor.

As for amount of boost, I've no idea really. The idea of a stroker kit is good, but doesn't that neglect to address the age-old oil issues in these over 4000rpm (please do tell me if I'm wrong, I'm here to learn!). As for the fuel costs - meh. It'll get used regardless. Having a happy life is more important!

I'm from the North of England, near Kendal close to the Lake District. It's an incredibly beautiful place to live. Here's a photo of my '65 going up one of the local passes at a hot rod show.


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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 04:15:55 PM »
Wounder where they got all those stones to build those
walls beside the road from ??? :D
Me and the wife have talked about  going to England.
Some day maybe we eventually get the planets lined
up and drive there in the Galaxie
And yes you are wrong about the oiling ;)
The few "issues" is easy to fix ie reduse the rocker oiling
filter adapter and port matching the block with the oilpump
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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 05:02:14 PM »
Nice Galaxie!  I've never been up that far North, was usually around London and Birmingham.  If you are not so concerned about fuel, definitely get the stroker kit.  Your 352 will turn into a 430+ cubic inch (7 litre) engine with a 4.25" stroker kit, pretty much a night and day difference in power even without a turbo.  400 naturally aspirated HP is pretty easy with a setup like that, so you wouldn't need more than 7-8 pounds of boost to get to 600 if you felt like it.  The stroker kits will handle up to 700 HP, but the block is probably only good for about 600 in a street car, and less in a drag race car (assuming you are dropping the clutch at high engine speeds). 

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« Last Edit: January 03, 2019, 06:02:28 PM by jayb »
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2019, 03:40:53 PM »
Nice Galaxie!  I've never been up that far North, was usually around London and Birmingham.  If you are not so concerned about fuel, definitely get the stroker kit.  Your 352 will turn into a 430+ cubic inch (7 litre) engine with a 4.25" stroker kit, pretty much a night and day difference in power even without a turbo.  400 naturally aspirated HP is pretty easy with a setup like that, so you wouldn't need more than 7-8 pounds of boost to get to 600 if you felt like it.  The stroker kits will handle up to 700 HP, but the block is probably only good for about 600 in a street car, and less in a car (assuming you are dropping the clutch at high engine speeds). 

If you end up buying the car, post a picture...

You should come up here, it's stunning. :)

As for the stroker kit, that's good to hear. Definitely has me thinking! Should I buy I'll no doubt be quizzing on what to get, what I need etc...and of course I'll post pics. :)

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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 10:28:31 AM »
Just another question re: stroker kits.

All I can seem to find are kits for 390ci and larger. Can anyone let me know where I'd be able to find one for the 352 or will it need boring out to 390? (Then of course if I'm doing that, wouldn't it just be worth going bigger again?)

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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 11:19:40 AM »
Since most folks start with 390s, that's where most of the off-the-shelf pistons are available.  However, you should be able to get a stroker kit with custom pistons to fit a 352 bore.  You will likely need to bore your block out anyway, so if you just go up 0.050" to the standard 390 bore size, I would think that there are off-the-shelf pistons available.
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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2019, 11:39:42 AM »
Since most folks start with 390s, that's where most of the off-the-shelf pistons are available.  However, you should be able to get a stroker kit with custom pistons to fit a 352 bore.  You will likely need to bore your block out anyway, so if you just go up 0.050" to the standard 390 bore size, I would think that there are off-the-shelf pistons available.

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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2019, 03:45:13 PM »

If you end up buying the car, post a picture...



It's heading to the UK over the next few months. :D

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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2019, 04:02:33 PM »
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Re: 352 - boost?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2019, 04:49:46 PM »
**I have 4.035 bore stroker pistons on the shelf.  I'm kinda partial to 352s and stuff to service them.  I also have boost friendly 352 rods and pistons.....
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