Ford On Ford: Single Wheel 3/4 To 1 Ton Hub, Will It Fit?

[chris401]

Moving a mid 70's motorhome I have not seen yet. If a couple of tires are flat will a couple of 3/4 ton spares fit the front hubs?
Thanks

[NIsaacs]

I assume the motorhome is a standard 1-ton dually chassis with 8 bolt wheels? If so, they will fit, but will be about 6" wider so it won't drive/steer for crap.

[chris401]

I assume the motorhome is a standard 1-ton dually chassis with 8 bolt wheels? If so, they will fit, but will be about 6" wider so it won't drive/steer for crap.

Thanks

[NIsaacs]

They also might stick out too far and hit the body on a turn. FYI the old Fords had left hand threads on the left rear wheels.

[57 lima bean]

They also might stick out too far and hit the body on a turn. FYI the old Fords had left hand threads on the left rear wheels.

   
     
        Thank you Nisaacs...This is hilarious.Some years ago a local shop asked if I would bring my 1 inch impact down.He was dealing with a left rear wheel on a 3/4 ton.Early 80's)After a couple of minutes a look at the stud end showed a faint L

[chris401]

They also might stick out too far and hit the body on a turn. FYI the old Fords had left hand threads on the left rear wheels.

I did not know that Ford did that as well. I have seen a few old Dodge's like that. Must have been a Dana thing?

[Cyclone Joe]

Studebaker's did the left hand thread thing as well, from what I've been told.

[Heo]

Studebaker , Mopar, Willys,Volvo, Ford trucks......
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Studebaker's did the left hand thread thing as well, from what I've been told.

[NIsaacs]

At least Ford had sense enough to use a tapered nut on the stud centric coined dually wheels. Dodge used a flat faced nut, so those in the know, carry two tapered nuts so they can center the wheels. Those not in the know, put up with a bouncing wheel, Lol.

[GJCAT427]

This left hand nut business reminds me of my 56 coe that I removed the frt wheels on. I jacked the frt left side up and put a 3/4 breaker bar on with the proper sized socket. Lots of blaster and a lot of grunting. the nut started to turn and quit. More blaster and now some heat. barely moving. Let cool and more blaster and heat. Slowly starts to turn. Put a pipe on the bar, now we`re getting some were. Result, nut comes off very tight and finally get it off. Only then did I see the "L" on the stud. Forgot about the L & R studs. Egg on my face on this one. My 63 Pontiac has L & R nuts but I did remember them on that car.

[57 lima bean]

I'm sure it's a case of spindle mounted wheels from the bygone era.Wonder if the covered wagon's had LH threads?.....Studebaker probably started it....   https://www.hansenwheel.com/resources/faqs-wagon-history.

[NIsaacs]

Just curious, but are you after the chassis, the motorhome or both?

[chris401]

Just curious, but are you after the chassis, the motorhome or both?

Don't know yet. Never known what you'll find swapped into the old beast. I have seen a 12 Valve Cummins, 460, 428CJ and MEL's take the place of the 390 in these things. Saw a 390 take the place of a Flarhead 6 once. Likely a Dana 70 with the same mounting as mine. If it has 3.54:1 gears I am taking it.

[NIsaacs]

You can never have too many automotive goodies. Motorhomes are heavy and wind resistant so most likely 4.10 or maybe even 4.56. I have a GM class A chassis with 19.5's and it has 4.88's.

[chris401]

You can never have too many automotive goodies. Motorhomes are heavy and wind resistant so most likely 4.10 or maybe even 4.56. I have a GM class A chassis with 19.5's and it has 4.88's.

Saw a Class A Winnebago come through the shop with a Cummins, Alison and 3.54 Dana 80. It was on a late 70's Dodge chassis. Came in for brale check, the man that built it said he was too old to climb around under it. Not uncommon to see engine and drive train swaps.

[NIsaacs]

An old logger friend of mine had one of those old Dodges with a 413. He swapped in a Cummins and the old 1st gen 4 spd auto of the era and a 5831c aux like mine. It kept breaking flex plates tho, so he finally parked it and bought a newer more modern one, lol.

[chris401]

An hour ago I found a crack in my trailer between the axles. The person got a little weird when I told them I wouldn't be there at 8 tomorrow because I was going to find a rental. I thanked them for there time and told them I wouldn't be there at anytime. Since the only time to move it is 8-3 I am under the impression they are a realtor. Likely has an generator, factory 390 or 460. Could have had an over drive added at some time. Never know till you pop the hood.

https://waco.craigslist.org/zip/d/heidenheimer-old-mtrhm-free-no-paperwork/6747807424.html

[NIsaacs]

Heck yeah, the price is right. That would take pretty good sized trailer, I would assume they would want the tarps and pallets removed with it. Maybe you could stuff them inside so they wouldn't take up trailer room.  Too bad about your trailer and having to pass it up.

[chris401]

Heck yeah, the price is right. That would take pretty good sized trailer, I would assume they would want the tarps and pallets removed with it. Maybe you could stuff them inside so they wouldn't take up trailer room.  Too bad about your trailer and having to pass it up.

I picked up a 18'x82" dovetail bumper pull on Craigslist. For $800 I figured I would find something but wished I had noticed it while I was hanging lights, repacking bearings and putting brakes on it. Here is a picture from when I first got it. The stupid thing is you can see where the crack starts in this picture. I didn't see it until I mocked up the patch panel.

[chris401]

Hauled off a Class A Dodge a couple of years ago. Rented a trailer for that one.

[TomP]

There won't be a 390 or 428 CJ in that. It is likely a 351W or a 460. Might have an oil cooler and other cool bits.

[NIsaacs]

Hauled off a Class A Dodge a couple of years ago. Rented a trailer for that one.

Was the front axle still under it, looks like the one I got my axle off of, Lol. I don't recommend using one for a transplant, they are weird built. The wishbone/knuckle is backward from a standard straight axle. The wishbone is on the axle...ya gotta drive them. I saw an article in a Trailer Life magazine about them, they wrote the reader that they were no good from the get go and about the only thing you can do to help them is use radial tires. I have 215/75x17.5, 16 ply on mine.

[chris401]

Hauled off a Class A Dodge a couple of years ago. Rented a trailer for that one.

Was the front axle still under it, looks like the one I got my axle off of, Lol. I don't recommend using one for a transplant, they are weird built. The wishbone/knuckle is backward from a standard straight axle. The wishbone is on the axle...ya gotta drive them. I saw an article in a Trailer Life magazine about them, they wrote the reader that they were no good from the get go and about the only thing you can do to help them is use radial tires. I have 215/75x17.5, 16 ply on mine.

Yeah but I didn't use it. It had an open 4.10 Dana 70, 440 and 727. Stuck a carburetor and gas can on it and moved the beast under its own power. The 440 now powers a 62 Chrysler in DFW and the shell left soon after. Oddly enough the rear axle perches were in the same spot as my 65 F-250.

[chris401]

There won't be a 390 or 428 CJ in that. It is likely a 351W or a 460. Might have an oil cooler and other cool bits.

According to the grille it is a 75-78, why wouldn't it have a 390?

[NIsaacs]

There won't be a 390 or 428 CJ in that. It is likely a 351W or a 460. Might have an oil cooler and other cool bits.

According to the grille it is a 75-78, why wouldn't it have a 390?

I am thinking the Econoline didn't ever use an FE, but I am not sure.


I think most motorhome frame width (dually) is the same as Cab Chassis, standard 34". I think the F series 4x2 was the same until '73 and the 4x4 changed in '77.5.

[chris401]

There won't be a 390 or 428 CJ in that. It is likely a 351W or a 460. Might have an oil cooler and other cool bits.

According to the grille it is a 75-78, why wouldn't it have a 390?

I see. Well at least there is the possibility of some sort of overdrive/underdrive addition. DNEs were around then.



I am thinking the Econoline didn't ever use an FE, but I am not sure.


I think most motorhome frame width (dually) is the same as Cab Chassis, standard 34". I think the F series 4x2 was the same until '73 and the 4x4 changed in '77.5.