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How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« on: October 28, 2018, 07:08:55 PM »
for a hood scoop? Want to get an OEM 'look' bolt-on scoop for a '69-'70 Mustang. But, if I cut a hole in the hood for my 14" diameter K&N air cleaner (raising the carb as well with a 1" spacer) what's the best way to do so?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Goodmark-Hood-Scoop-for-1969-1970-ford-Mustang-/362331056663?fits=Year%3A1969%7CModel%3AMustang
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2018, 07:12:14 PM »
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2018, 07:52:26 PM »
Agree with Heo. Cutoff wheels produce too much heat and will burn the edges of the paint and cause it to start to peel and lift. Same with plasma cutters. Be gentle with the nibbler and don't press down too hard. Then you can dress the edge with a small sanding disc or file. I prefer the small 2"-3" sanding discs.
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2018, 08:04:24 PM »
Hey, thanks fellas! Hadn't thought of a nibbler!
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2018, 09:04:05 PM »
I used a jig saw with a metal blade to cut the hole in the hood of the '89 Mustang(460 powered!) I used to own. I put a couple of layers of masking tape over the area I wanted to cut and away I went! There were no ill effects and it was on a recent paint job too.

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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2018, 10:52:14 PM »
Like Alan, I have used a jig saw with a fine toothed blade to cut holes in steel hoods a few times, including the hood on my Fairmont, which I cut over 30   years ago.Some guys install that plasic door edge molding strip around the opening, I just touched up the cut edge after a quick sanding of the edges.
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 12:10:23 AM »
A Malco HC2 will cut 2 inch to 20 inch round hole

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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 07:40:27 AM »
x3 on the jig saw.  Lots of tape, lay it out, slow and steady and then a file to smooth the edges.
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 08:17:06 AM »
Thanks to all! Thought of the jigsaw as well but had never used same to cut a hood hole.
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 08:29:09 AM »
Jigsaw here too - use wide painter's tape to tape off every place the shoe of the saw will ride to protect the paint.  A full size Boss scoop should just cover a 15" hole.


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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2018, 09:08:31 AM »
Thx for the pic Chris. I have thought about the Boss 9 type scoop. I do need to carefully measure both the one I linked to (OEM Ford) and the Boss one as either need to clear the 14" K&N air filter with a taller spacer under my carb.

Jigsaw here too - use wide painter's tape to tape off every place the shoe of the saw will ride to protect the paint.  A full size Boss scoop should just cover a 15" hole.


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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2018, 10:51:35 AM »
If you mean the regular "Mach" type scoop, no way it'll cover a 14" hole.  EDIT - missed the link.  Not sure - based on below, nearly would say no.  ALSO - if you cut a 14" hole for a 14" air cleaner, good luck and you better be accurate.  14.5 or 15" will be more like it.

From the Summit Racing site:

Is this Fiberglass or ABS
Is it bolt on or Bond
What are the dimensions
How does it compare to SDK-C9ZZ-16C630-A
Asked by MICHAEL on March 04, 2016

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Thank you for your question. Goodmark 3022-255-691 is made of fiberglass and would measure 27.5 in. x 15.5 in. x 2.25. This scoop is a direct OE replacement just like the Scott Drake counterpart.

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Link: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gmk-3022-255-691/overview/year/1969/make/ford/model/mustang
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2018, 11:52:13 AM »
Yeah, that's my concern since I already doubted the regular "Mach" type scoop is wide enough.

Even with a engine limiter (turnbuckle) on the driver's side cylinder head, the hole would need to be bigger indeed in order to close the hood and allow some shaking....and as you say, so big the scoop may not cover the hole!

I'm going to can the idea of the Mach scoop and look more closely at the Boss scoop or similar wide scoop, say 16" minimum,  to avoid any grief.

 
If you mean the regular "Mach" type scoop, no way it'll cover a 14" hole.  EDIT - missed the link.  Not sure - based on below, nearly would say no.  ALSO - if you cut a 14" hole for a 14" air cleaner, good luck and you better be accurate.  14.5 or 15" will be more like it.

From the Summit Racing site:

Is this Fiberglass or ABS
Is it bolt on or Bond
What are the dimensions
How does it compare to SDK-C9ZZ-16C630-A
Asked by MICHAEL on March 04, 2016

A:
Thank you for your question. Goodmark 3022-255-691 is made of fiberglass and would measure 27.5 in. x 15.5 in. x 2.25. This scoop is a direct OE replacement just like the Scott Drake counterpart.

Summit RacingSummit Racing Answer - November 15, 2016

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Link: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gmk-3022-255-691/overview/year/1969/make/ford/model/mustang
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2018, 02:07:59 PM »
The scoop on the Mustang came from Crites, just FYI.  Good luck!

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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2018, 02:17:12 PM »
Jay shows us how it's done, in a trailer, the night before Drag Week check in...


https://youtu.be/6F15sxPM1UA?t=3m45s

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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2018, 04:19:18 PM »
Yea, I forgot that episode of Jay's Journey with the black '64 Galaxie! His cuts were far more complex than my desire to simply cut a round hole. As usual, the job was well done!

Jay shows us how it's done, in a trailer, the night before Drag Week check in...


https://youtu.be/6F15sxPM1UA?t=3m45s
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2018, 12:42:39 PM »
Another option is to get a fiberglass hood.  They make them with a hood scoop already molded in.

A stock flat original hood that has not been hit on the front, or bent at the hinges, or drilled for a hood scoop, or cut out for a hood scoop, is getting difficult to find.

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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2018, 04:54:40 PM »
Yes, I have thought of a 'glass hood but one of the biggest issues is shipping to a residential address. Most vendors won't due the large crate size, darn it!


Another option is to get a fiberglass hood.  They make them with a hood scoop already molded in.

A stock flat original hood that has not been hit on the front, or bent at the hinges, or drilled for a hood scoop, or cut out for a hood scoop, is getting difficult to find.
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2018, 06:22:11 AM »
Yes, I have thought of a 'glass hood but one of the biggest issues is shipping to a residential address. Most vendors won't due the large crate size, darn it!


Another option is to get a fiberglass hood.  They make them with a hood scoop already molded in.

A stock flat original hood that has not been hit on the front, or bent at the hinges, or drilled for a hood scoop, or cut out for a hood scoop, is getting difficult to find.

Have it shipped to your local Fastenal store. People have that done all the time.

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2018, 08:20:23 AM »
THX! Good idea.

Have it shipped to your local Fastenal store. People have that done all the time.
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2018, 09:26:10 AM »
Yes, I have thought of a 'glass hood but one of the biggest issues is shipping to a residential address. Most vendors won't due the large crate size, darn it!

??  I have never had that problem.  I've had a milling machine delivered to the house, along with several large fiberglass objects.  When I built the shop, CloyPay delivered the 16' overhead door to the house.  And we live on a cul-de-sac, so that driver can back up like Mater.



I would buy the scoop separately from the hood.  You then have control over placement of the cut and the position of the scoop.  AND - fiberglass is easy to modify and repair.  The Falcon has a 'glass hood and it's had a L88 stype scoop and teardrop with 16" hole underneath, and currently sports a rectangular hole for a tunnel ram.
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Re: How's the best way to cut a hole in a steel hood...
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2018, 09:57:09 AM »
Well, I may then give a hood delivery a shot! Some sites state no delivery without a dock but it's still worth a try as heck, weight is not an issue coming off a truck as it's not like a short block! THX!
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