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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2018, 11:07:57 AM »
Do you anticipate any fretting of the shims that are under the lash caps?  I like the look of the roller rockers, which appear to be a great solution to adjuster problems on previous efforts.

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2018, 11:13:09 AM »
Double roller rocker arms definitely work.
Have been running those for several years now.
I ran/made selective thickness lash caps - a bit more work (OK - more than a bit...)
I definitely prefer the bushing fulcrum - same general idea - problematic parts that are not on the engine cannot fail in service.

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2018, 08:14:08 PM »
Jay, thanks for sharing a great build from parts to dyno testing your attention to deatail is awesome could there be a book to written around this kind of info for Cammers ?

I'm planning to write one, I've got an outline and a bunch of technical drawings and photos from my own engines, but I haven't really gotten started on the text yet.  Too many other things going on, but I will get it done at some point...
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2018, 08:22:25 PM »
Nice write and and result Jay. Should make the big car move out. I know what you mean about coolant leaks with the Hilborn manifold, took a couple of attempts to get mine water tight.

Any idea when your rocker arms will be available for sale?

I remember you mentioned the issue you had with the Hilborn manifold, and it didn't surprise me LOL!  Every time with those I've had some kind of a minor water leak issue; I thought I had it licked with this one, but it ended up dripping just a little.  I think it has to do with how they slot the bolt holes in the manifold;  the slot comes very close to the water jacket hole in the head and the manifold and it's tough for the sealer to hold.  What I've done, in this case and with my own engines, is make a steel or aluminum plate with a hole in it for the front bolt.  I cut a bevel into that hole, and put an O-ring around the bolt, so that when the bolt tightens up the O-ring seals around the bolt head and the bevel in the plate.  The plate covers up the entire slot in the manifold, so that if water does leak into that bolt slot, it has to try to go up the hole, where it is stopped by the O-ring.  Seems to be an effective fix.

I actually have five more sets of my rockers in process but they are all spoken for.  I think I will make up more early next year, but before I do I will get a list together of people who want them.  Watch the Vendor Classifieds section for that.
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2018, 08:27:24 PM »
Do you anticipate any fretting of the shims that are under the lash caps?  I like the look of the roller rockers, which appear to be a great solution to adjuster problems on previous efforts.

No, I'm pretty sure that won't happen, the lash cap should settle into position after the shim is installed and not move. 
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2018, 09:38:30 PM »
Cool Jay, Can you show were the inherit leaks are so I can address them early on I was thing about making studs for the water pump so they will hold the back cover tight when you remove the front cover, I know on some engines when you loosen the cover they pull the seal loose on the back, we are still putting mine together thanks for the pictures. Leny Mason

Leny, the front covers tend to leak on the bottom at the outboard sides of the cover.  I like your idea of making studs for the water pump attachment, but wouldn't you have to counterbore the cover to put a nut on each stud?  If you can do that, it would probably work pretty well.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2018, 09:07:49 AM »
Jay I was thinking of putting a step on the stud were the backing plate is then make room for that on the back of the cover then it would be long enough to hold the water pump, can you think of any problems with that, can you show with an arrow were the leaks are thanks. Leny Mason

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2018, 03:41:01 PM »
I had about  given up on the dream of having a cammer.  This has re-energized me.
Thanks
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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2018, 10:05:03 AM »
Jay, what size stacks did you use here, and will they fit under his hood?  If they will fit under the hood, will he need the teardrop?  How much clearance will he have?  Thanks.



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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2018, 10:35:46 AM »
I didn't measure them, but as is they won't fit under the Galaxie hood.  They would probably fit under a teardrop hood though.  He was going to cut them off and add K&N or equivalent air cleaners I think.  Here's a couple of pictures of the SOHC in my Galaxie, which has longer stacks than the ones on this engine.  You can see how far these stacks poke through the stock flat hood.



Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2018, 10:39:23 AM »
Jey, what was the mildest cammer you ever built and how did it perform?

Not that I have any ideas in mind, I just wonder how they do if shifting the peak down a bit.  It's amazing the power they make

If I caught you before you reply, I was thinking stroker, not stock displacement
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- 70 Fastback Mustang, 489 cid FE, Victor, SEFI, Erson SFT cam, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11 9 inch.
- 71 F100 shortbed 4x4, 461 cid FE, headers, Victor Pro-flo EFI, Comp Custom HFT cam, 3.50 9 inch

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2018, 01:40:10 PM »
Not Jay....but I did one that was stock heads, stock 2x4 intake and carbs, stock replacement cams from LSM.  Had 10.5:1 compression and a 428 crank - probably offset each other a bit.  Made about 614....

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2018, 02:04:26 PM »
I think the lowest HP one that I did was Jason's, made about 625 HP and 550+ lb-ft of torque if I recall correctly.  Nice, streetable engine with a huge torque band...
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Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2018, 02:22:16 PM »
Hah that’s awesome, 625 streetable.
I know these days that’s not a big deal with blowers and such but that’s supposedly “old” tech.
Makes me smile.
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Re: 482" Street SOHC
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2018, 02:54:02 PM »
Pretty wild what a good set of heads does
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Bullock's Power Service, LLC
- 70 Fastback Mustang, 489 cid FE, Victor, SEFI, Erson SFT cam, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11 9 inch.
- 71 F100 shortbed 4x4, 461 cid FE, headers, Victor Pro-flo EFI, Comp Custom HFT cam, 3.50 9 inch