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A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« on: May 08, 2018, 02:36:22 PM »
The lovely sound of 15:1 compression idling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iv5Ygc-7s

Made 1201 hp @ 8500 with 817 lb-f of torque with this 556ci BBF yesterday. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQZKNKUCs

On that video, the pull took a little longer than it should have and we actually dead-headed the pump.  That's why it sounds flat at the very end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N4fNaEIuIY

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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 03:14:19 PM »
Has a pretty good "bark" to it! Sounds good! What heads are on it? A460, C460, Profiler... or? Head flow and cam specs (ball park...)???
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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 03:17:44 PM »
Profiler 221 heads, *way* over 500 cfm on the intake side. 

Cam is a Comp 280H.  Except with .975" lift....and 60mm....and with a Coyote firing order.   ;D
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2018, 05:19:51 PM »
Good thing Fred has all his teeth, I can see his smile from Arizona! Good job, Brent! Now Fred will have to control that power and get it to the ground. I have faith in him, he has a good working knowledge of what it takes.

I like the first video of the outside, love that crack at idle...should sound awesome in the truck. I will post some pulling videos as they become available, hopefully in June. I am thinking his class just got a new contender.

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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2018, 05:51:59 PM »
Good thing Fred has all his teeth, I can see his smile from Arizona! Good job, Brent! Now Fred will have to control that power and get it to the ground. I have faith in him, he has a good working knowledge of what it takes.

I like the first video of the outside, love that crack at idle...should sound awesome in the truck. I will post some pulling videos as they become available, hopefully in June. I am thinking his class just got a new contender.

Nick

It's going to be a big learning curve for him.  I haven't typed out the spec sheet and note sheet yet, but there's a lot of things that he's going to have to do differently.....run a water/oil heater so that the engine temperature is optimal before he starts, try to get a tow around the track instead of driving everywhere, etc.  The valve springs will hopefully go a season but the less he runs the engine between pulls the better off he'll be.  Lash will need checked every night when he goes home.  He will have to either drain his fuel cell or cap off the vent because the C25 fuel will lose itself if left open to the air.  This engine has a belt drive distributor with a crank trigger.  Dry sump oil system.  Just a different scenario.

We were gaining 20 hp every 200 rpm on the last pull but cut it off at 8500.  Just no need to stress the engine by spinning it to the moon.
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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2018, 08:42:29 PM »
Wicked!!!!

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2018, 07:37:05 AM »
Great results and one cool looking engine to boot!
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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 06:49:48 PM »
The lovely sound of 15:1 compression idling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iv5Ygc-7s

Made 1201 hp @ 8500 with 817 lb-f of torque with this 556ci BBF yesterday. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQZKNKUCs

On that video, the pull took a little longer than it should have and we actually dead-headed the pump.  That's why it sounds flat at the very end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N4fNaEIuIY




Brent,

What is the story on this engine build? My brother said you no longer have any interest in maintaining it. That you don't have the time, energy or want to in helping him.

If I recall, part of the build quote was he would send it back to you after every season for a refresh.

As you know he has had a lot of trouble with it and so have you. When they blow up on the dyno at an idle, that is a bad sign. He lost all of the '19 season and had a real short '20 season.

He now, needs help with the engine vibration but your advice was to find a local machine shop/builder, what's up with that?

Since I recommended you, I am between a rock and a hard place here.....
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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2020, 11:06:06 AM »
The one in my buddy's pulling truck is 672 ci, 18:1 compression on alky with twin 5" Flying Toilets- barks pretty good

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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 11:37:50 AM »
The lovely sound of 15:1 compression idling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iv5Ygc-7s

Made 1201 hp @ 8500 with 817 lb-f of torque with this 556ci BBF yesterday. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQZKNKUCs

On that video, the pull took a little longer than it should have and we actually dead-headed the pump.  That's why it sounds flat at the very end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N4fNaEIuIY




Brent,

What is the story on this engine build? My brother said you no longer have any interest in maintaining it. That you don't have the time, energy or want to in helping him.

If I recall, part of the build quote was he would send it back to you after every season for a refresh.

As you know he has had a lot of trouble with it and so have you. When they blow up on the dyno at an idle, that is a bad sign. He lost all of the '19 season and had a real short '20 season.

He now, needs help with the engine vibration but your advice was to find a local machine shop/builder, what's up with that?

Since I recommended you, I am between a rock and a hard place here.....

Hoping your brother at least tried to figure things out with Brent before this posting..especially considering the purpose for this toy...run it to the edge of holy heck pulling a sled for fun.  Not exactly a scenario for long life.  Lots of wild YouTube’s of trucks and tractors flying to pieces in amazing ways when sled pulling.

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Re: A 556ci popcorn popper.....
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2020, 12:53:56 PM »
The lovely sound of 15:1 compression idling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iv5Ygc-7s

Made 1201 hp @ 8500 with 817 lb-f of torque with this 556ci BBF yesterday. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQZKNKUCs

On that video, the pull took a little longer than it should have and we actually dead-headed the pump.  That's why it sounds flat at the very end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N4fNaEIuIY




Brent,

What is the story on this engine build? My brother said you no longer have any interest in maintaining it. That you don't have the time, energy or want to in helping him.

If I recall, part of the build quote was he would send it back to you after every season for a refresh.

As you know he has had a lot of trouble with it and so have you. When they blow up on the dyno at an idle, that is a bad sign. He lost all of the '19 season and had a real short '20 season.

He now, needs help with the engine vibration but your advice was to find a local machine shop/builder, what's up with that?

Since I recommended you, I am between a rock and a hard place here.....

Hi Nick,

This is what I told Fred when he called Saturday morning:  I simply don't know if I can get it back to you in time for next year's season.  My business went up 50% since all this virus stuff started and between that and my broke back, I didn't think I could get it done in time.   There's only so much of me to go around and my missing L5S1 disc makes me a lot slower than I used to be.

Fred and I had an amicable (or so I thought) conversation and we even walked through some scenarios on what he's feeling, considering it was vibration free on the dyno when it left.  I offered to send him a new harmonic balancer to try before he pulled the engine out of the truck.

Now, since you're throwing in a couple other details, I'll explain for the crowd:  I lost an L19 rod bolt on the dyno while the engine was warming up.  Not my fault.  Fixed it on my dime. 

Also, he missed out on the 2019 season because he took the season off, not because of anything that I did.   The engine was sitting here and I was told that he was in no hurry because he wasn't planning on pulling last year (building new house, trying to sell store, etc.).  Also, from what I gathered (I could be wrong), he made every meet except for the one on October 3rd this year. 

My offer still stands to go through it, but again, I can't make any assurance that it would be back in time.   

I appreciate your recommendation, Nick, and I'm sorry that you were in the middle.

 




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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2020, 02:18:21 PM »
Seems like a phone call would have been a good way to handle this.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2020, 03:05:39 PM »
bought the best you can offer , seems to me .

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2020, 06:30:52 PM »
Seems like a phone call would have been a good way to handle this.


Calls were made before, during and after, for 3 years. Typed words are not the same as the tone of the voice in a phone call....
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2020, 06:56:08 PM »
 
Hi Nick,

This is what I told Fred when he called Saturday morning:  I simply don't know if I can get it back to you in time for next year's season.  My business went up 50% since all this virus stuff started and between that and my broke back, I didn't think I could get it done in time.   There's only so much of me to go around and my missing L5S1 disc makes me a lot slower than I used to be.

Fred and I had an amicable (or so I thought) conversation and we even walked through some scenarios on what he's feeling, considering it was vibration free on the dyno when it left.  I offered to send him a new harmonic balancer to try before he pulled the engine out of the truck.

Now, since you're throwing in a couple other details, I'll explain for the crowd:  I lost an L19 rod bolt on the dyno while the engine was warming up.  Not my fault.  Fixed it on my dime. 

Also, he missed out on the 2019 season because he took the season off, not because of anything that I did.   The engine was sitting here and I was told that he was in no hurry because he wasn't planning on pulling last year (building new house, trying to sell store, etc.).  Also, from what I gathered (I could be wrong), he made every meet except for the one on October 3rd this year. 

My offer still stands to go through it, but again, I can't make any assurance that it would be back in time.   

I appreciate your recommendation, Nick, and I'm sorry that you were in the middle.
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Thanks Brent,

Without going into a full fledged review here, I am done now. To say were are disappointed is an understatement. You guys from the peanut gallery, just never mind, you don't know squat about what was and wasn't for the past three years.  Very complicated/complex and very expensive.

Nick


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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2020, 07:16:37 PM »


Thanks Brent,

Without going into a full fledged review here, I am done now. To say were are disappointed is an understatement. You guys from the peanut gallery, just never mind, you don't know squat about what was and wasn't for the past three years.  Very complicated/complex and very expensive.

Nick

Oh so now we’re the peanut gallery.
Let me remind that you were the one the put us in it by putting what should have been a private conversation between you and Brent into our forum. Thus my comment.
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2020, 07:37:37 PM »
Thanks Brent,

Without going into a full fledged review here, I am done now. To say were are disappointed is an understatement. You guys from the peanut gallery, just never mind, you don't know squat about what was and wasn't for the past three years.  Very complicated/complex and very expensive.

Nick


 Yep, you did invite the peanut gallery.  One thing this forum does well is call shenanigans when they happen.  It will be tough to get people to see your point of view if you’re going to exaggerate like you did...for instance saying the engine blew up when it actually just needed a special alloy bolt. I’m sure buying a max effort engine and flogging the bejeebers out of it can be expensive...maybe your expectations need calibrated.
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2020, 04:41:08 AM »
Thanks Brent,

Without going into a full fledged review here, I am done now. To say were are disappointed is an understatement. You guys from the peanut gallery, just never mind, you don't know squat about what was and wasn't for the past three years.  Very complicated/complex and very expensive.

Nick


 Yep, you did invite the peanut gallery.  One thing this forum does well is call shenanigans when they happen.  It will be tough to get people to see your point of view if you’re going to exaggerate like you did...for instance saying the engine blew up when it actually just needed a special alloy bolt. I’m sure buying a max effort engine and flogging the bejeebers out of it can be expensive...maybe your expectations need calibrated.


Are you kidding? What happens when a rod bolt breaks? Why did it break?
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2020, 04:52:52 AM »


Thanks Brent,

Without going into a full fledged review here, I am done now. To say were are disappointed is an understatement. You guys from the peanut gallery, just never mind, you don't know squat about what was and wasn't for the past three years.  Very complicated/complex and very expensive.

Nick

Oh so now we’re the peanut gallery.
Let me remind that you were the one the put us in it by putting what should have been a private conversation between you and Brent into our forum. Thus my comment.


Why private? The build was public. Ever read public reviews so you can decide on a product?
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2020, 05:27:02 AM »
Thanks Brent,

Without going into a full fledged review here, I am done now. To say were are disappointed is an understatement. You guys from the peanut gallery, just never mind, you don't know squat about what was and wasn't for the past three years.  Very complicated/complex and very expensive.

Nick


 Yep, you did invite the peanut gallery.  One thing this forum does well is call shenanigans when they happen.  It will be tough to get people to see your point of view if you’re going to exaggerate like you did...for instance saying the engine blew up when it actually just needed a special alloy bolt. I’m sure buying a max effort engine and flogging the bejeebers out of it can be expensive...maybe your expectations need calibrated.


Are you kidding? What happens when a rod bolt breaks? Why did it break?

You introduced your situation to the public, I'm guessing to gain support for your position.  You said the engine blew up but it actually was repaired.  That means you are windy (i.e. bombastic).  People usually don't support a person who is blatantly windy.

Why did the bolt break?  I don't know. Have you been to at truck pull?

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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2020, 06:22:25 AM »
I have no ill feelings toward anyone involved and as of Saturday morning, I do believe the intention was to send the engine back to me for a freshen-up, so I don't believe there were any ill feelings toward me either.   I simply told Fred that I didn't think I could get it back to him in time for next year's season.  To be straight up, I think I'd rather tell someone that, than be late getting an engine out the door and knock them out of half a season.   As a matter of fact, Fred is pretty handy, so I even pitched the idea of Fred disassembling the engine and then reassembling it with me throwing him refresh parts and walking him through different aspects of the build over the phone.  The talk of a local shop came up just when we were brainstorming about the possibility of a cracked/bent crankshaft and I thought that a local shop could spin it up and check it out.

To answer TJ,  I have no clue why the bolt broke and if there was an insinuation by anyone that it was my fault, I can simply say that both bolt shanks were still in the rod and screwed out freely, with the rod cap and bolt heads in the pan, with my white paint daubs on them, signifying that they had been torqued.  In addition to that, my build notes show the amount of stretch on every rod bolt, along with the torque/angle spec to get to that particular stretch number.  If I did something wrong, I'll throw my hands up in the air and just say I have no idea what it is.   The additional kick in the pants was that they were all BRAND NEW rod bolts from ARP, as I replace them every season, whether they need it or not.  With all of that being said, as soon as it happened, I called Fred and told him.  I certainly didn't get any satisfaction from doing that, but I wanted to be transparent.  In the end, Fred wasn't out a penny, but I took about a $3000 hit in fixing it all. 
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2020, 06:37:26 AM »
Thanks Brent,

Without going into a full fledged review here, I am done now. To say were are disappointed is an understatement. You guys from the peanut gallery, just never mind, you don't know squat about what was and wasn't for the past three years.  Very complicated/complex and very expensive.

Nick


 Yep, you did invite the peanut gallery.  One thing this forum does well is call shenanigans when they happen.  It will be tough to get people to see your point of view if you’re going to exaggerate like you did...for instance saying the engine blew up when it actually just needed a special alloy bolt. I’m sure buying a max effort engine and flogging the bejeebers out of it can be expensive...maybe your expectations need calibrated.


Are you kidding? What happens when a rod bolt breaks? Why did it break?

You introduced your situation to the public, I'm guessing to gain support for your position.  You said the engine blew up but it actually was repaired.  That means you are windy (i.e. bombastic).  People usually don't support a person who is blatantly windy.

Why did the bolt break?  I don't know. Have you been to at truck pull?

Have I been to a truck pull?...is a pigs rump pork? Four full seasons on my FE that I built 20 years ago, not to mention drag and sand drags. You don't have a clue what is going on, I only posted a smidge. We wanted the best that money could buy....

Keep in mind a puller gets one 15 second wot pull @ 10 pulls per season that's about 2.5 minutes. What does a drag car get per race? Several practice runs, time trials and the actual race adds up. Since the engine required major surgery after the first season (not owner caused) that's an expensive 2.5 minutes. 

Wouldn't you consider a rod bolt breaking on the dyno a blow up? The collateral damage was significant. Anyway, since you don't have a clue why don't you drop it before this thread goes south. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2020, 06:46:29 AM »
I have no ill feelings toward anyone involved and as of Saturday morning, I do believe the intention was to send the engine back to me for a freshen-up, so I don't believe there were any ill feelings toward me either.   I simply told Fred that I didn't think I could get it back to him in time for next year's season.  To be straight up, I think I'd rather tell someone that, than be late getting an engine out the door and knock them out of half a season.   As a matter of fact, Fred is pretty handy, so I even pitched the idea of Fred disassembling the engine and then reassembling it with me throwing him refresh parts and walking him through different aspects of the build over the phone.  The talk of a local shop came up just when we were brainstorming about the possibility of a cracked/bent crankshaft and I thought that a local shop could spin it up and check it out.

To answer TJ,  I have no clue why the bolt broke and if there was an insinuation by anyone that it was my fault, I can simply say that both bolt shanks were still in the rod and screwed out freely, with the rod cap and bolt heads in the pan, with my white paint daubs on them, signifying that they had been torqued.  In addition to that, my build notes show the amount of stretch on every rod bolt, along with the torque/angle spec to get to that particular stretch number.  If I did something wrong, I'll throw my hands up in the air and just say I have no idea what it is.   The additional kick in the pants was that they were all BRAND NEW rod bolts from ARP, as I replace them every season, whether they need it or not.  With all of that being said, as soon as it happened, I called Fred and told him.  I certainly didn't get any satisfaction from doing that, but I wanted to be transparent.  In the end, Fred wasn't out a penny, but I took about a $3000 hit in fixing it all.


Brent,

This is sounding promising, Thanks. Fred is handy, we both are. We know what can break and why. We are not hotrod mechanics, there is a difference, but we are very good mechanics, we can fix anything. I was building gas and diesel Allis Chalmers engines in the late 60's, I can't count how many, Cummins, Detroit, Ford, GMC and hit or miss one lunger's. We are not green!   

Thanks, Nick
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2020, 11:46:36 AM »
Sorry to comment from the "peanut gallery"  (not really, you invited us to witness it)
but Nick, it REALLY sounds like you need to talk to your brother and get on the same page.
From the outside looking in, it appears that Brent is getting a different impression of the situation from Fred.

Now if this means, Fred says one thing to Brent and one to you, or whatever is beyond my speculation, but it sure sounds like something of that nature.

I have never seen Brent not be fully transparent with his work... he has never tried to hide anything.  I do the same, I will go 100% over and above to assure a customer has exactly what they need.  I happily spend hours talking a customer through fixing other people's work so my carburetors function as they should.  I have seen Brent do the same.
That said, if I was in his situation, I'd be firing you both as customers over this thread.

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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2020, 02:27:04 PM »
Sorry to comment from the "peanut gallery"  (not really, you invited us to witness it)
but Nick, it REALLY sounds like you need to talk to your brother and get on the same page.
From the outside looking in, it appears that Brent is getting a different impression of the situation from Fred.

Now if this means, Fred says one thing to Brent and one to you, or whatever is beyond my speculation, but it sure sounds like something of that nature.

I have never seen Brent not be fully transparent with his work... he has never tried to hide anything.  I do the same, I will go 100% over and above to assure a customer has exactly what they need.  I happily spend hours talking a customer through fixing other people's work so my carburetors function as they should.  I have seen Brent do the same.
That said, if I was in his situation, I'd be firing you both as customers over this thread.


Lol, key word here "speculation" ...and the unknowing list grows....
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2020, 03:31:25 PM »
I would think the key word here is PM.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2020, 04:15:57 PM »
Brent fixed it on his own dime. That says it all for me. Not that it really matters what I think. Always entertaining here

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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2020, 04:27:18 PM »
Lol, key word here "speculation" ...and the unknowing list grows....

Yup, but that is exactly what you get when you air this out in the public eye.

Good luck.

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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2020, 05:01:38 PM »
Brent fixed it on his own dime. That says it all for me. Not that it really matters what I think. Always entertaining here


OMG, they just keep getting better. As opposed to who's dime? This was a fresh rebuild, tested in Kentucky, the truck is in Montana....
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2020, 07:46:07 PM »
Unless Brent signed a lifetime contract to refresh this engine, it is actually good publicity for Brent, that you will go to these lengths.

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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2020, 07:58:45 PM »
it is just a 2020 thing

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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2020, 08:11:08 PM »
OK, lt me get this right- but of course, I am just another unwashed heathen from the peanut gallery, in your devine opinion lol. This is not your engine, but your brother's, who seems to be getting along pretty well with Brent, including a very recent phone call- but you choose to call him out on a public forum, and then proceed to toss insults at any unworthy peasants who comments- the "unknowing". Yeah, OK, over the years I have seen many examples of "mechanic's attitude"- from age 5 on up. Since you think it is soooo impressive, I didn't build my first complete engine by myself, until 1965, a Wisconsin V4HD, 24hp. Gramps had an International truck n tractor dealership, so yeah, tractors are us- IH, Deere, Ford mainly, gas n diesel, then later Caterpillar. That and 5 bucks will get me a cup of Joe at Starbucks- who cares lol... Spent enough time as a General Engineering foreman dealing with Godlike tractor mechanics to get a bit jaded. Also did some pulling with my own early 77 highboy with a 427 LR, while my buddy was running an Algon-injected 454 High Riser. Helping him now with his Pro Modified truck with the 672 ci 460, ran a couple weekends ago to get a 2nd, actually had it won until the 1st puller, who he had beaten by 25 ft., took his re-pull and won by 2ft- c'est la vie! That's French, BTW. You seem to be having great fun mouthing off to a bunch of pretty good people, and I imagine I will be your next victim, but those who know me will tell you IDGAF, so do your worst  ;) 

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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2020, 09:08:13 PM »
Sure, you might be unwashed and unknowing heathen.... least ya aint a bilge rat

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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2020, 09:22:10 PM »
Hey now- some of my best friends are Bilge Rats! I have 3 of my cars stored at Mare Island- right across the street from the drydocks

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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2020, 01:23:44 AM »
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What is the story on this engine build? My brother said you no longer have any interest in maintaining it. That you don't have the time, energy or want to in helping him.

If I recall, part of the build quote was he would send it back to you after every season for a refresh.

I don't know if it applies in Kentucky but, in some states (OR & CA at least) a oral agreement between adults, especially in a business setting, holds the same water as a written contract.

I was in business for 31 years, before retiring. Some parts of it are extremely good and some, no so much. There's a happy balancing point, somewhere in there.
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2020, 05:31:25 AM »
OK, lt me get this right- but of course, I am just another unwashed heathen from the peanut gallery, in your devine opinion lol. This is not your engine, but your brother's, who seems to be getting along pretty well with Brent, including a very recent phone call- but you choose to call him out on a public forum, and then proceed to toss insults at any unworthy peasants who comments- the "unknowing". Yeah, OK, over the years I have seen many examples of "mechanic's attitude"- from age 5 on up. Since you think it is soooo impressive, I didn't build my first complete engine by myself, until 1965, a Wisconsin V4HD, 24hp. Gramps had an International truck n tractor dealership, so yeah, tractors are us- IH, Deere, Ford mainly, gas n diesel, then later Caterpillar. That and 5 bucks will get me a cup of Joe at Starbucks- who cares lol... Spent enough time as a General Engineering foreman dealing with Godlike tractor mechanics to get a bit jaded. Also did some pulling with my own early 77 highboy with a 427 LR, while my buddy was running an Algon-injected 454 High Riser. Helping him now with his Pro Modified truck with the 672 ci 460, ran a couple weekends ago to get a 2nd, actually had it won until the 1st puller, who he had beaten by 25 ft., took his re-pull and won by 2ft- c'est la vie! That's French, BTW. You seem to be having great fun mouthing off to a bunch of pretty good people, and I imagine I will be your next victim, but those who know me will tell you IDGAF, so do your worst  ;)


I toss insults, where? In what way did your post contribute (other than barbs) to the welfare of this thread. If I have seen one I have seen a 100 threads go south from this type of posting.

I am mouthing off to a bunch of pretty good people? In report writing classes, the subject was to include the what, where, when, how and why. Please explain using the format my insults and mouth. I don't recall any, however, others...not so much.

Experts (400 inmates) have tried to get a rise out of me with verbal and physical attacks. The verbal I just smile and say thank you. The physical was taken care of with the least amount of force.

So if this thread goes south if won't be from me taking the bait.

   
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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2020, 11:23:30 AM »
I like the internet tough guy.. does someone have poopy pants..so is the prison guard reference there to impress people or intimidate people.

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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2023, 05:51:19 AM »
The lovely sound of 15:1 compression idling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9iv5Ygc-7s

Made 1201 hp @ 8500 with 817 lb-f of torque with this 556ci BBF yesterday. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQZKNKUCs

On that video, the pull took a little longer than it should have and we actually dead-headed the pump.  That's why it sounds flat at the very end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N4fNaEIuIY





Update:

Local builder has this ready to install in the truck. Full 565 now, class maximum. 1268@8000 and 903@6800 now, so more cubes helps. The builder is booked about a year in advance so it took awhile to reach our turn. Hoping for a good pulling year. Cant figure out how to post the dyno sheet.
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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2023, 07:09:52 AM »
First pull of the season with the rebuilt engine. Running good, 1st place pull (of six trucks) even with an early shutdown due to the berm in his way.

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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2023, 09:59:50 PM »
I guess I'd say, "All's well that ends well."

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« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2023, 06:23:24 AM »
I guess I'd say, "All's well that ends well."

KS

Agreed, we are just happy to pull again.

Second pull of the day. 3rd place, got a lazy launch, hit the rev limiter and nosed over for a split second. Changed out the gear set, went up a whole ratio for his next pull. Would like to gear it for 8500-8800. Pulled up the recall on his tach, 9100, not cool.

Will start a new thread on his pull this weekend. I don't have the video yet or the particulars but 368' 1st place at Havre, MT yesterday. Out the gate, off the track and climbing a hill, Lol.

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpmRBB5is2k
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