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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2017, 07:11:14 PM »
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2017, 08:37:02 PM »
Quote from: babybolt on July 27, 2017, 06:45:57 PM
What is the third SOHC head available?

Aside from the originals cast by Ford which aren't really available anymore, Dove created full SOHC kits and they still might. I think I remember reading that Dove's castings had porosity issues a while back. Paul Munro in Australia also creates heads, intakes and timing chain covers. How much of the stuff from Dove and Munro you can still get your hands on, I'm not sure. I first found out about Paul Munro when I read Jay's article in Hot Rod, so perhaps Jay would know if the Aussie connection is still in business. His US contact was Les Blahut.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2017, 08:46:03 PM »
Dove actually produced a surprising number of SOHC heads and kits.  But they haven't cast anything for a while.  There was a recent rumor that they were going to make some more SOHC rockers.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2017, 08:53:02 PM »
It's a niche market. Kirkham seems to produce a Cammer Cobra every now and then, it's a popular engine for their clients that want to go crazy. But a brand new SOHC will run you about $40-50k, so it's understandable why you don't see them all the time in projects.

Am I right that Keith sold Keith Craft Performance Engines? I know they used to advertise a SOHC engine build all the time on eBay, with Coon heads. That always made me think that Coon must have made sure he didn't screw over Keith...
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2017, 10:05:52 PM »
I know someone who bought a cammer kit from Dove and abandoned it because of porosity.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2017, 12:20:33 AM »
Maybe a Kuntz n Craft reunion???
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2017, 09:21:04 AM »
I was referring to Dove as the third supplier. I had seen information and pictures about the Munro products but never have really seen anyone use or test them.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2017, 09:49:15 AM »
There was a cammer reunion not that long ago.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2017, 09:58:38 AM »
Quote from: 67gt350 on July 28, 2017, 09:21:04 AM
I was referring to Dove as the third supplier. I had seen information and pictures about the Munro products but never have really seen anyone use or test them.

The Munro heads were widely used in Australia, but not too many were sold here in the US.  However, Munro's heads are no longer his, he has sold that part of his business to the machine shop in Australia that was originally machining the heads.  As it happens I know the guy who runs that shop and am working with him to develop a higher performance version of the head.  If things work out on this, look for FE Power SOHC heads to become available sometime in the next 6-12 months.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2017, 12:03:04 PM »
Jay that's great news is there any chance you will be able to bring cam bearings to market as of now they cant be purchased.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2017, 12:03:34 PM »
Quote from: fekbmax on July 28, 2017, 12:20:33 AM
Maybe a Kuntz n Craft reunion???

I wouldn't count on it. The business that Craft started is still going, but Keith is no longer involved. Sold or passed on to his employees as I understand. And rumor has it that Paul is having some problems of a personal nature and may not be around for a while. I won't speculate what that means, but it didn't sound good.
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2017, 02:13:09 PM »
Quote from: preaction on July 28, 2017, 12:03:04 PM
Jay that's great news is there any chance you will be able to bring cam bearings to market as of now they cant be purchased.

Have you tried Dove, Barry R, Pond, or Precision Oil Pumps for the bearings?  If they all say they are not available, then another production run will have to be made of them.  Barry R would be your best bet for that...
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2017, 08:51:38 AM »
Jay, that would be great to have you involved in the design of a SOHC head. I was going to ask if you planned to start that after your wedge heads and intakes. Do you know anyone that tried the Munro 2x4 intake? I don't know how you do it with all the irons you have in the fire!!
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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2017, 09:55:07 AM »
Quote from: jayb on July 28, 2017, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: preaction on July 28, 2017, 12:03:04 PM
Jay that's great news is there any chance you will be able to bring cam bearings to market as of now they cant be purchased.

Have you tried Dove, Barry R, Pond, or Precision Oil Pumps for the bearings?  If they all say they are not available, then another production run will have to be made of them.  Barry R would be your best bet for that...

I'm out...for now

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Re: SOHC heads
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2017, 02:24:51 PM »
That's fabulous that their will be more SOHC heads on the market.  Competition is good. 

There are several processes that might cure the porosity of the Dove parts, so all is not lost on the stuff.
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