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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2017, 05:33:28 PM »
I can show you a clear valve cover video of unrestricted factory rockers with a standard volume pump and no drip tins or tricks.  At WOT on the dyno at 6000 rpm, the oil doesn't even get up to the spring locators.
Did you build it with head studs?

Both ways.  The one in the video had bolts.  5 quart front sump pan that had increasing oil pressure through the pull and ended up at about 68 psi at 6000.

It's a common combination.  Head studs usually only go in aluminum blocks or race applications but even with HV pumps and oiling T&D rockers through pushrods, I don't have oil control problems. 

I think most FE issues are with intake gasket installation or with misbehaving PCV valves.
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2017, 05:45:39 PM »
theres allways a chance i messed up on the intake gasket again,but i did the best i could and i thought it was ok.same issues both times
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2017, 05:47:42 PM »
Did your CJ heads have an oil restrictor in them?

Your intake is not dowel-pinned to the heads is it?  I once had a dowel pin break through into an intake port and suck oil in.  It smoked like crazy. 

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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2017, 05:51:35 PM »
i do have restrictors in my cj heads,and i had to pull that dowel out of the front of the block .the rpm intake dont have a hole for it
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2017, 05:55:03 PM »
Jay,if you read this im sorry for hogging up your site with my misfortunes
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2017, 05:58:04 PM »
I'm talking about different dowel pins.  My intake manifold has dowel pins where it mates to the cylinder head.  I don't think it's common to do that, but I thought I'd ask just in case. 

I would try restricting the oil to rockers at the oil hole in the cylinder of your new BBM's.  I don't know if that is the root cause, but it's so easy to try that you might as well try it.  I like Jay's idea of filing a flat on a round rod and sticking it in there.

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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2017, 06:42:50 PM »
thats my next move Paulie.if that dont help i guess i may remove the intake again,try a different gasket,seal the hell out of it and see if that helps
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2017, 08:27:14 PM »
Jay,if you read this im sorry for hogging up your site with my misfortunes
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2017, 02:08:25 PM »
If its an auto,I've seen where a modulator has caused much haze.Had a special sent too.   :-\

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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2017, 02:37:39 PM »
If its an auto,I've seen where a modulator has caused much haze.Had a special sent too.   :-\
it is an auto,i had my modulator line clog up with oil-trans fluid not long ago
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2017, 05:40:19 PM »
if my only problem was too much oil in the valve covers would it make it smoke or is this a sign of something else wrong.what im asking is can too much oil to the rockers make a engine smoke
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2017, 05:49:10 PM »
if its auto trans oil you can indicate it by the smell
smells different than engine oil
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2017, 06:30:06 PM »
if its auto trans fuel you can indicate it by the smell
smells different than engine oil
it is oil smoke,could too much oil to the rockers cause smoke
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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2017, 06:32:34 PM »
You can only get so much oil in the rocker area before it runs down the pushrod holes or in between the ports in the intake with most manifolds.

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Re: still smoking like a freight train
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2017, 06:44:05 PM »
You can only get so much oil in the rocker area before it runs down the pushrod holes or in between the ports in the intake with most manifolds.
can i take that as a yes or no
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