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Re: help on smoking issue
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2017, 03:38:58 PM »
i took off the harland sharp rockers and put my factory adjustables back on.get this,my oil pressure went back up to 75-80 at startup.with the hs rockers i only had 60 at startup,but its still smoking out the ying yang.its either pooling in the valve covers or i have a bad intake seal,i think.
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Re: help on smoking issue
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2017, 03:57:53 PM »
any more thoughts on this smoking.im glad i got my oil pressure back,but the smoke aint fixed.i dont know how to restrict the oil to the rockers on these bbm heads.the threaded insert sticks up too high to drop anything in the oil hole.any ideas on this?and any ideas why the stock rockers have 20 more psi than the new harland sharp rockers.the factory rockers are a little worn but the hs rockers are brand new
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Re: help on smoking issue
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2017, 04:34:58 PM »
i would really like to hear from one of you top builders to see what you think
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Re: help on smoking issue
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2017, 04:44:18 PM »
Hard to diagnose without a little investigation. 

Pull the plugs and see if you can distinguish any difference between cylinders.

If you have access to a bore scope, pull the carb and run the scope down the runners to see if you see oil in the ports of the head, running down the valve stems, etc.  90% of FE oil issues like that is a botched intake gasket install, but there's a small chance it could be a valve seal or guide issue.  If it's actually smoking and has a modern ignition system, it's sucking a ton of oil in. 

Oil entering the combustion chamber can only come from a few spots.  It could come from the ring side, but I find that unlikely, especially since you have just changed the top end.   Chances are it's coming from the intake side of things.  You just need to narrow it down to a bad gasket install, or bad guides/seals.  The head gasket tabs can hold the intake off the head.  That's another thing to check.

I don't restrict with factory rockers.  I can show you a video of a dyno pull where the oil doesn't even get above the bottoms of the springs.
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Re: help on smoking issue
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2017, 05:07:55 PM »
the engine is new-1-2 thousand miles on it,so i dont think its rings,its never smoked till i put the new heads and intake on.the heads are new so i dont think it would be the valve guides or seals.i did not bend any tabs down on the head gaskets so i would say that 90% chance of a botched intake install may be it.the plugs all look the same so i dont think its 1 cyl or 2.thanks for the reply.i guess i will buy some more intake gaskets and try to do a better job this time
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Re: help on smoking issue
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2017, 05:22:20 PM »
Sounds like a gasket issue.

Make sure you glue the gaskets down on both sides too.
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Re: help on smoking issue
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2017, 12:14:10 PM »
i just took my intake off.i have a puddle of oil in every intake runner.it looks like my head gasket was holding my intake up from front to back.the gasket dont even look like it was crushed so maybe it was sucking oil bad.any comments?
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