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thatdarncat

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New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« on: November 01, 2016, 10:24:43 PM »
This has been popping up on some of the other FE sites this evening, I figured we might as well have the info here too. Announced at the SEMA show in Vegas, Trick Flow Specialties unveiled a new FE aluminum cylinder head and intake manifold to go with it. Here is a link to the info:

http://www.onallcylinders.com/2016/11/01/trick-flow-specialties-introduces-ford-fe-dhc-small-block-chevy-cylinder-heads-at-sema/
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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 11:02:56 PM »
Here's the picture from the above link.

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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 11:10:05 PM »
Cool! Flow numbers?
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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 12:09:14 AM »
Are they really TFS, or did they CNC those Chinese copies of the Edelbrock heads?  Joe-JDC
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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 08:59:58 AM »
Any information on pricing?   Just from the appearance, the intake looks like it may have smaller runners than the Victor, which would be a help in some applications...
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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2016, 09:24:24 AM »
I was told that the 258 number was for exhaust port with pipe. The proof reader did not enter the correct number for the press release. I still don't know what it is on the intake. I guess nobody noticed what was printed. Hey Joe ( jdc) the heads do have "trick-flow" cast in them. I guess that does not say where they were cast. The Steve head (china) is a permanent mold , the TFS heads do not have "that look" fwiw. The chamber is more like a cross between the Survival and the standard Ebrock.

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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2016, 12:44:52 PM »
if 258 is for exhaust , then that sounds better than 258 for intake and leaves hope for some good intake numbers

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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2016, 01:02:35 PM »
I have just spoken with the FE Power Forum's roving investigative reporter, my former trunk monkey Hemi Joel (aka Captain Stabbin').  He is on his way to the SEMA show and will take pictures and gather detailed information on the Trick Flow heads and intake.  Stay tuned for an update...  ;D ;D
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2016, 01:03:34 PM »
258cfm would be hellacious exhaust flow for a "street oriented" FE head.  Just going by some modern FE castings, they're doing well to achieve 72% exhaust to intake flow ratio (using some posted figures for BBMs and Felony)

If it flowed 258cfm, the intake would be flowing in the 360cfm using the 72% ratio as "rule of thumb".  Don't see that happening with a 175cc intake port.  Of course, they could be skewed with a really good, slightly raised exhaust port, and hit an 80% ratio, so call it 325cfm on the intake side if that were the case, I see that as "maybe" possible with a good CNC intake port but have my doubts it can happen at .500" with a small port.  The Colvert/Kuntz CNC BBM heads go 321/226 at .500", but they're more in the area of 195cc intake volume. 

It's all conjecture at this point, obviously, just thinking out loud. 
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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2016, 05:39:50 PM »
Very nice to see new products launched to support the venerable old FE.
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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016, 06:11:31 PM »
Here's a picture from the Bangshift site of the underside of both the head and intake.

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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2016, 06:34:20 PM »
In the Bangshift article on the Trick Flow FE heads, it said they flow 338 intake and 249 exhaust.

http://bangshift.com/general-news/new-products/trick-flow-has-got-tons-of-new-parts-ford-chevy-and-mopar-lovers-will-all-be-happy/





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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2016, 08:57:03 PM »
They told me that the head on display at SEMA is the only one in existence. The ports were obviously CNC'ed. THey said that will be standard, no "as cast heads" will be available. no dyno testing has been done, since there is only 1 head. But they say it is the final design, this is what the production head will be. 6 months ETA on the availability. I don't have time to mess with posting pics now, so I texted them to Jay. but I took a bunch. 

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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2016, 10:24:31 PM »
I don't like the center 2 intake port "roofs" and rockers stand bosses... tell them to beef that up like the outer two cylinders, as far as meat up on top. They look weak there to me, just from the few pictures I have seen. That "one in existence" shouldn't be the "final" casting and machined head. Opinions may vary...

 Trick Flow has real nice stuff (SBF and A460 etc.) and I always said I wished they had an FE head, so I am not bashing, just trying to help. The intake looks interesting, but so close to a Victor, that I am not sure what to think. Still a low profile 6 1/4" carb pad. My guess is it could be better, since they could buy a Victor and improve on it. If there has been no dyno and/or track data, one either... then time will tell I guess. Nice to have another choice.
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Re: New Trick Flow FE cylinder heads & Intake
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2016, 10:49:41 PM »
Joel's pictures:









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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC