Some LPG expirience?

[Toppa]

hey folks,

anybody installed an Venturi LPG System into the 390?
Any expirience?

The petrol is f*** expensive in germany

[Toppa]

so obviously nobody installed an LPG system ins his FE? 

[BattlestarGalactic]

LPG is common for a forklift, so can't say it would be difficult to install?  It is becoming more common on transportation vehicles, like buses.  Everyone is trying to "go green".

[Katz427]

My only experince was converting Small diesels to lpg.
Lpg was used in 390 428 engines in certain areas running generators or irrigation pumps so you may find someone with experience with Ford Industrial engines.

[Toppa]

  cant stop laughing

so obvious you dont have to "go green". nearly  3/4 of the US-Car scene in europe go's with LPG cause of fucking expensive petrol! Me as well. My E250 330cui got LPG. Short calculation:
20L per 100 km x 1,50€/L = 25€  (actual price in germany)
22L per 100 km x 0,50€/L = 11€
(for you non metric guys = 20L/100km = 14MPG  ;-)

its not about going green ;-)

[thatdarncat]

A friend of mine bought a 428 LPG engine short block from another friend that came out of a school bus if I remember correctly. I'm guessing the bus motor maybe had some kind of FT engine top end, like a 391, and that's why we only got the short block, but it had a 428 bore, crank, pistons, etc. This was many years ago. My friend then bought a set of 428 CJ heads from me and still has that motor. But I don't know anything about the LPG conversion. The engines run cleaner than gas engines. We do have some trucks and buses running around here in the U.S. on LPG and occasionally I read about a race car on LPG.

[BigBlueIron]

I have some experience with LPG in forklifts and converting v8 engines for off road use, mostly with Impco style mixers and convertors standard 4bbl mounting, its extremely easy to do and works very well. What would you like to know I will do my best to answer.

[KMcCullah]

Short calculation:
20L per 100 km x 1,50€/L = 25€  (actual price in germany)
22L per 100 km x 0,50€/L = 11€
(for you non metric guys = 20L/100km = 14MPG  ;-)

its not about going green ;-)

What is that funky assbackwards symbol , Roman? Is that a Euro? If so, by my math a gallon of gas is over $5/gal! Damn that is expensive! I know exactly squat about burning LPG in an internal combustion engine so I'm not going to be much help. But what about E85? Back when gas was $4/gal here, E85 was a lot cheaper. Now it's the other way around. $2.12/gal for unleaded and $3+/gal for E85 in western CO.

Edit: My keyboard doesn't even have that funky symbol. Must take a special keyboard or something. Mindboggling for my simple head.....   

[jayb]

That is indeed the Euro symbol, Kevin.  You should go to the UK if you want to see some REALLY high fuel prices...

[cammerfe]

Years ago when I worked at T&C Livonia, the C6 test stands were all run by LPG-fueled 428s. The test stands stood in two rows with an engine room down the middle. There were about two dozen individual stands. One guy was responsible for the engines including doing rebuilds as necessary. I was in there occasionally and remember noticing that even when they were ready for repair they were exceptionally clean inside. I believe the LPG units were Impco. They bolted on the ordinary iron 4-barrel 428 intake manifold.

KS

[Toppa]

jea, i worked in the UK at Ford Dagenham ( oldest Ford Engine Plant in Europe- around 1925?) I know about they prices for everything... but if you want to top that, go to norway. donno about hte fuel prices but seriously everything is about double orice than in germany 

So my question is not if its possible, sure it will be. But i want to get some HP out of the engine and want to know if it will be still possible with LPG conversion.
Dont know how the LPG will work with higher compression and so on...

First thing i wanna  do is installing double exhaust 3" stainless. This wont be a problem ;-)

[fastback 427]

The little bit of research I did when our gas hit 4.25 a gallon told me a few things. Power would drop about 25 percent due to less btu in propane. Also less fuel economy. Cleaner engine with less oil changed. Also propane used to be 117 octane but looks like it is less now. Higher compression would offset the power loss.
Also a couple of my buddies converted to it (impco mixer) and love it.

[wayne]

Roush runs his mustang team drag cars on it i think also sell kits for new f150s .

[thatdarncat]

Roush runs his mustang team drag cars on it i think also sell kits for new f150s .

If you internet search LPG race car there are quite a few hits, including the Roush winning effort Wayne mentioned. Here's one link:

http://blog.amerigas.com/commercial-propane/autogas-and-clean-fuels/roush-drag-racing-team-continues-to-prove-that-propane-is-a-winning-fuel/

I know I've probably read about a couple more over the years in NHRA's National Dragster too.

[Toppa]

cool. so it will be possible to run a HOT engine with LPG. Good to know