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« on: October 12, 2016, 05:29:54 PM »
485 c/o 2x4 lowriser twin 600 vac sec survival heads out of the box c-6 10 inch 3000 stall caltrac bars and shocks. ET drag radials 3250/3450 with me in it

link to final round win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6-xgbqvCA


 

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 06:48:57 PM »
Beautiful looking car.Nice going!

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 08:45:53 PM »
Very nice car, great job!

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 09:51:02 PM »
Thanks guys

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 09:52:41 PM »
Congrats on the win. It passed by kinda quick, but what a saw looked great.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2017, 01:16:18 PM »
Cool car!

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2017, 06:17:30 PM »
Thank you!

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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2017, 07:00:49 PM »
Nice car! Just caught the vid now...kinda' late I'd say! LOL 

Just an idea but.....get your camera man to put that on a stick next time for steadier video shoot. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2017, 09:45:34 PM »
Thanks I dont really have the heart to say anything to my camera man cause she is my daughter and she is kinda getting in to the whole racing thing. She was like dad can we build me a car and dad who gets the mustang when you know, and I say you know what and she says you know when you dont need it any more. I tell them both that Im getting buried in it. Ha Ha. No but really if you follow some of the other videos she isnt that bad. Ya know I just went back and payed attention and yeah I geuss it could be alittle steadier ::).
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2017, 09:21:54 PM »
Stangman , was the gt350 getting on it ? Your fe sounds really good ! I'm trying to put a fe setup una foxbody for drag . What would you recommend ?

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2017, 01:40:33 PM »
yeah he was on it but they only run 12.40 with someone who knows how to drive, its a freind of a freind and hes still learning
plus my cars torque converter was going bad you can sort of hear it reving louder than its going, about 3 months later it broke at the track it started slipping and the new tranny got me 4.6 tenths faster.

As far as a drag combination you should be asking some of the big boys on here. I had Barry build my shortblock and I did the rest.
I dont really know how fast you want to go. My car is a low 11 sec car and my setup is pretty straight forward. Basically a 485 with 10.75 comp medium sized solid cam, survival heads right out of the box c-6 with 3000 stall and 4.11 car weights 34-3500 with me in it. But my car is a street car i drive it alot not far but i drive it. I could tell ya a bunch of combos but Barry,Brent, and Blair have been dong this a long time and they have a million proven combos they can take all the geuss work out. Good luck     

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2017, 02:18:54 PM »
Thank you. You racing the new mustang movitated me . I hope the big guys see this post . I know Barry says more cube bring more power down low. You have the 4.250 stroke ?

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2017, 02:51:45 PM »
looking good!

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2017, 03:11:46 PM »
Yes also have lowriser 2x4 intake with twin 600s. Leaving alittle power on the table with that intake but i am borderline needing a cage and Im not doing that

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2017, 03:20:36 PM »
How you making out sixty9cobra I saw your having problems that blows.

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2017, 05:48:42 AM »
No progress yet, May is a bad month every weekend is booked. I will pull it soon and decide where I am going with it. I know the crank is toast hopefully the head and block are ok. With the bearing laying in the pan I am sure the piston was hitting the head. The thing that bothers me the most is when I turned the motor to get at the # 7 rod  I saw a couple of drops of coolant run down the the #6 cylinder wall. Hopefully its a head gasket.

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2017, 10:17:43 AM »
Well let's keep our fingers crossed, wouldn't be to bad if ya had to go for a sleeve but a block might hurt a little or be a blessing in disguise.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2017, 05:34:02 PM »
Harry what ever happened to the engine what about the antifreeze that you saw. Keep us informed.
Going to an 1/8 mile track on the 24th will update then

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2017, 09:18:38 AM »
So far I need a crank and 2 rods. Machine shops is slacking but I'm low on funds after my sons wedding. I went last week and gave him 3 grand to order a Scat forged stroker crank and 2 rods. We talked about a roller cam and a Victor manifold.

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2017, 03:56:23 PM »
Congrats to the kid, keep us informed on your car, I hope the block is fine

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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2018, 07:29:54 AM »
So I went to the track yesterday just to see if the gear change from 4.11 to 3.70s
and my quick fuel carbs are all working together. All went fairly well went 11.32 @ 118.70.
My previous was 11.42 @ 116.70. My 60 foot time was also better 1.56 to 1.51. So going to
pink all out live on Friday and Saturday hopefully it will be fun.

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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2018, 10:09:37 AM »
For comparison, what was your 1/8?

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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2018, 10:35:54 AM »
Hey Drew my 1/8 mile was a 7.18 which isn’t my best. My best was 7.13 at 95.60.
Mile per our on the 7.18 at 95.10. Made 5 passes all between 11.32 and 11.45. I think I have some tuning to do on these carbs also, I have a problem with a primary bowl leaking out of the banjo bolt do to a imperfection on the mating surface so I haven’t been taking them apart because I have it in a spot that’s not leaking but if you remember the problem I was happening when I changed jets prematurely I want to up the jets in front from 72 to 74s and while I have them apart I would like to try going up 2 in the back just to try. What do you think looking at time and miles per hour



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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2018, 11:32:44 AM »
So you went down 10% on gear and still went 2 mph faster and a tenth quicker.  Not a bad result.  Replacement bowl was ordered a while ago now - - need to find out where it is....

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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2018, 11:34:31 AM »
What do I think?  It’s dang respectable for anything that runs on the street

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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2018, 01:17:25 PM »
Thanks Drew I still think I might have a tenth or so left with alittle tuning. After this upcoming weekend I will probably send you my
600s so I have them to try and for backups. No particular rush and I dont know your work schedule.
Regardless I will send them 

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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2018, 01:29:57 PM »
So you went down 10% on gear and still went 2 mph faster and a tenth quicker.  Not a bad result.  Replacement bowl was ordered a while ago now - - need to find out where it is....

Thanks Barry yeah the gear change was really made for the motors sake. I have a small tire (only 26 inches tall)
I dont like taking it on parkway and rev it that high. I know it might not be alot but I dont rev it past around 2700
and thats like 50 miles per hour. But otherwise she has about 1500 miles on her and she doesnt burn any oil so Im happy.
And yes I was happy with the tenth and the mile per hour. Thanks for checking on bowl.

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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2018, 09:28:29 PM »
Ialso have some video but dont know how to post them. I used to have the kids post them but
I am out of that location and im with guys that are worse than me. If thats even possible

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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2018, 07:30:13 AM »
Nice results there. Do you know your trap rpms from any of those recent low 11 passes? Where is the peak hp on your 485?
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2018, 08:53:37 AM »
I’m not sure we’re I have the shift light on tach I believe it’s 6400. With the 4.11s the light was coming on like 50 feet before the quarter ended, and I’m not really making any power after that.
With the 3.70s the light isn’t coming on and the car is still pulling. It wasn’t pulling at the end with the 4.11s I was sort of just extending the run. After the FE reunion I was like no more quarter mile passes till a gear change. Never dynoed the engine but an educated assometer would be 5800-6000.
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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2018, 02:33:03 AM »
Just saw this. Nice job, Joe! .13 is a big jump in ET, especially when you DROPPED gear. It also shows me how pathetic my times are when I'm running darn near the same speed but am .8 seconds slower. Wish I had more time to get to the track to sort out my launches, cause that's where my problems are at.

Anyway, congrats on making good progress. I'd be pretty happy with that for a nice street car. Keep fiddling away at the tuning and I'm sure you'll find even more!
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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2018, 03:12:15 AM »
Thanks Doug I do have some cubes on ya though remember that. I think I told you about that Corvette I raced, it’s weird he holds it to like 3500 let’s go of the clutch let’s it grip then stabs it.
He is very consistent with the way he does it. He’s a really nice guy but the son of a bitch beat me twice. I will find the video and send it to ya one day so you can study it. I only say this cause anybody can just let it fly but I’m sure you don’t want to break a bunch of stuff also. Ok gotta go going to Pinks all out today see ya.

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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2018, 09:03:44 AM »
Ok guys was to busy yesterday but
1st pass yesterday was 11.16@ 119.66 really
Took off that’s my fastest time ever.
Backed it up with a 11.26@ 120.38 it felt just as good
But who knows my 60 foot was alittle off.
Trying to find out by talking to a bunch of guys what group
There gonna pick it seems around 11.30 is the magic number
so I put my air cleaner on to slow it up and ran a 11.24@ 119.24
so go figure
Ok gotta go to staging lanes

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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2018, 12:57:35 PM »
Well my first qualifying pass today was an 11.25@ 119.68 so I thought I was were
I wanted to be going by the guys that I was talking to.
Then I made my second qualifying pass and ran an 11.11@ 121.11 and as
Much as I want to be happy because it’s my fastest time ever it might have taken me
out of that tight little bracket. Alittle upset about that because I wanted
to be in it.

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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2018, 09:11:49 PM »
Great stuff, congrats.
Can’t wait to be out there.
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2018, 09:16:49 PM »
Now you have gained three tenths and five MPH?

I'd be bummed out too - - for about two seconds....!

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2018, 09:20:43 PM »
.03 too fast?  here in south Georgia we go to the track with 50lb sacks of corn just for that reason.
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2018, 07:19:47 AM »
Thanks guys hey I was very happy. The group they picked was between 11.40-11.60. Now I did
bring my exhaust with me might of put me in the right spot for the day but who know. Just want to thank all you guys for all your help

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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2018, 08:26:47 AM »
You might just have a "10" in there with a little luck  :)

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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2018, 12:07:55 PM »
You don't wanna be hangin' around with them 'slow' guys anyway ;)

Nice job, Joe! Sounds like you're really getting things worked out. Now all you have to do is work on consistency. I'd be pretty darn happy with those improvements, all while making it EASIER on the engine.
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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2018, 11:57:19 AM »
Good job.
    I know your on Long Island we should get together soon.

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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2018, 12:00:46 PM »
Good job.
    I know your on Long Island we should get together soon.
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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2018, 02:37:27 PM »
Hey whats up Harry, it is Harry right . I know the track hasnt been good to you but i will let you know
when im going again, or do you just want to hook up for a cruise.  Where are you located,
how far are you from Massapequa. My wife is having a procedure next week so Im out for the next couple of weeks.
But yeah Id like to hook up. 516-209-7874 Joe

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« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2018, 04:14:04 PM »
I am in Mt Sinai which is next to Port Jefferson. Harry is correct Joe, sorry to hear about your wife hope all goes well. 631-335-3122

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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2018, 05:24:10 PM »
Ha, Small world i have been to Massapequa



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« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2018, 06:48:56 PM »
Next time you are around Heo, me casa su casa. Now you have my number

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« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2018, 06:52:05 PM »
I am in Mt Sinai which is next to Port Jefferson. Harry is correct Joe, sorry to hear about your wife hope all goes well. 631-335-3122


Sounds good Harry we could meet somewhere, maybe a cruise spot

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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2018, 09:22:11 PM »
Hey so I dont know how to post on here but if your bored and you go to You Tube
and search stangman I have like 20 videos. The first like 10 are all within the last 2 weeks

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« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2018, 09:00:12 AM »
Here's a link to Joes YouTube channel...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpgzT57TL7RKD7WmuWRHGUA
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« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2018, 01:06:35 PM »
Next time you are around Heo, me casa su casa. Now you have my number
Thanks stangman, but chanses i end up there again is slim. Was there in 2000
i think it was, when Scott Shaffirof had his shop in West Babylon
and while we waited for parts i drove around Long Island and just Looked around
Our hotell was in mellville
I realy liked Long Island



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« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2018, 01:36:23 PM »
Next time you are around Heo, me casa su casa. Now you have my number
Thanks stangman, but chanses i end up there again is slim. Was there in 2000
i think it was, when Scott Shaffirof had his shop in West Babylon
and while we waited for parts i drove around Long Island and just Looked around
Our hotell was in mellville
I realy liked Long Island

Ok Heo ya never know

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« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2018, 07:32:30 AM »
Thanks stangman, but chanses i end up there again is slim. Was there in 2000
i think it was, when Scott Shaffirof had his shop in West Babylon
and while we waited for parts i drove around Long Island and just Looked around
Our hotell was in mellville
I realy liked Long Island

I was there the whole winter of 2008 building the beach.  Basically I was putting subline down to pump sand through.  We had a had vacuum dredge offshore, bout 7-8 miles.

My job was to jump off the bow of the boat onto the frozen pipeline, we'd take the wire off it and break them loose, put slings under each one and use a crane to put a pontoon under each pipe....  was fun.

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« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2018, 09:34:37 AM »
Yeaaa Drew sounds like a lot of fun :D I was there in June
a tad less ice then. Took the Ferry out to Fire island we got
sunburned one arm and half the face, laughed my ass of
at Ollie when i saw him next day half face white half red ;D



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« Reply #54 on: September 01, 2018, 08:40:58 PM »
Is that when they were dredging the fire island inlet. I used to do a lot of fishing before I got my car on the road. I switched addictions

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« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2018, 09:34:06 AM »
Yessir.... that was us dredging the inlet.  Was abnormally cold that year.

I'd fly from Valdosta to Atlanta, Atlanta to Kennedy, hop on the train headed south to Jamaica station, get on the Lirr out to Babylon, take a taxi which would take me to a small crew boat that would take me to my boat.....
I would joke, two planes, two trains, one car and two boats before 10am.

2-3 years later we did the Rockaways as well.

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« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2018, 01:58:44 PM »
Wow that’s a weird one way trip. Due to the storm Sandy it could use another dredging. I read that you have a bunch of work (side work). You want me to send these carbs or you want to pm me
when you slow up.

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« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2018, 02:52:03 PM »
When we were there Shaffirof said he bet you could walk out to fire island
if you found the right way. The ferry took a wierd route zig zaging to get out
to the island



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« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2018, 09:53:17 PM »
Wow that’s a weird one way trip. Due to the storm Sandy it could use another dredging. I read that you have a bunch of work (side work). You want me to send these carbs or you want to pm me
when you slow up.

It’ll never slow up. I’ll always have something to do. Send when you are ready.

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« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2018, 10:09:30 PM »
You got it. I probably have one more outing for the year. I have been doing like three a year. I went three times this year but got rained out once. I think Oct 2nd at my bosses 1/8 mile track is a good money day 1500 to win then 750 then 375 and even 125 for 1/4s. The way she’s running unless I
don’t drive worth a damb I should win something even the 125 will pay for race gas and a few pizzas
on the way home.

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« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2018, 11:50:02 AM »
Nice work Joe.
What is the peak hp and at what rpm?
I apologize if that was listed somewhere earlier and I missed it. JB
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« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2018, 06:23:22 PM »
Like I said I have the shift light at 6300, I didnt have it on the dyno but my assometer says
peak HP is 5800-6000. I believe when I short shift before the light comes on the car is faster.
With that being said I will be dropping the light to 61 or 6200. As far as how much horsepowrer it makes
I would have to say 525-550. I have been wanting to do a medium riser intake but Im already on a couple of
tracks radar about a cage and I would really like to not do that. I will be putting on my exhaust the next time I go
so I can see what it runs just the way it is on the street

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« Reply #62 on: October 14, 2018, 06:47:58 PM »
So last hurrah at the track today. As most have been following in the MSD post I have been having
A weird problem and today it wasn’t bad today had a slight hesitation 1.576 60 ft instead of my
Usual 1.55/1.56. Now I ran my exhaust today so this is how I run it on the street. First pass
11.401@118.36 so I thought ok leave it alone and see what the next pass brings. Second pass
11.402@117.80 so seems good to me I dialed a 11.39 so if I cut a good light and don’t red light
Should be good. So I go up do my burnout and stage the first light and the staging guys knocks on my window and tells me I can’t dial a 11.39 because I don’t have a rollbar. First time I have been called on that. So they put my dial in at 11.50 it flustered me alittle being last minute, we’ll took off and was ahead and they were playing catch up and they were coming fast. So I got off the car about 50 to 75
Ft before the first set of cones and crossed the stripe about a car and a half in front which I should have slowed up more because I ran 11.488@108.10. So my fault I lost just like the FE reunion in the finals. Well even though I went home early had a good year thanks to all the help from all of you guys.

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« Reply #63 on: October 14, 2018, 07:46:46 PM »
Sounds like a good way to end the season - even if you did get bounced.
Always OK to be able to say you were scolded for being "too quick"

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« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2018, 11:26:57 PM »

Always OK to be able to say you were scolded for being "too quick"

Not if that's what she said.  ;D

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« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2018, 01:28:38 AM »

Always OK to be able to say you were scolded for being "too quick"

Not if that's what she said.  ;D

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« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2019, 06:08:18 PM »
So I went to the track today and the only difference between last year and this year was an even swap low riser 2x4 to medium riser 2x4. So got there and took my exhaust off and air cleaner off. Gave the car a once over including air in tires. Went up and did a good burnout , now I haven’t been to the track all year because of my back surgery and I only drove the car about 200 miles all season. Got up to the line and took off 60 ft time is usually 1.54/55 my best was a 152 this pass was a 147.9 I could tell that it was stronger it seemed to be pulling a little harder. I hit second gear and now I can feel it going nice and I’m thinking I got my 10 second pass in the bag. Well just as I was going to hit 3rd it sort of flattened out still moving but not pulling like it was, stayed in it but it just felt weird not like a miss or lacking fuel so I made it through the pass. Let off the gas and stepped on the brakes and thought I didn’t have any brakes but what it was was my throttle stuck so I tried to fiddle with the throttle for a second and was on the brakes like crazy. Brakes smoking and everything. By the time I shut the ignition off there wasn’t much real estate left, and the brakes were so overheated that they weren’t working that great. Well the end of the track was approaching and I’m still doing 80 miles an hour and need to make a left banking turn. Needless to say I didn’t make it and trying to make the turn went over the first dirt mound. I ramped it all four wheels off the ground it did probably slow me down to 40/50 miles an hour by the time the car hit the ground the second mound was coming. Ramped that mound which slowed me down but while I was up in the air I looked ahead and there was a big red dump truck. Now I’m thinking if I don’t do something I’m gonna hit this thing doing somewhere in the ballpark of 30/40 miles and hour so I cut the wheel all the way to the left while the car was in the air and when the nose came down mostly on the pass wheel the rim dug into the ground and made an abrupt left turn (thank God). The car came to a halt about 75 feet away covered in dirt all the way up to the carb. We’ll talk about scared shitless. I crashed the lower valence the pass fender has a little bend in it and some suspension stuff is bent. Will look at it in a couple of days I’m just to upset to find out any other bad news. I will keep everyone informed but a scary day for me. Oh anywa 11.09 @ 120.20 . So when I popped the hood I found the carb gasket to air cleaner jammed down the Venturi and that’s what made the throttle stick. So my fault. That’s why it started to lay down after hitting second gear.

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« Reply #67 on: October 13, 2019, 07:17:35 PM »
Sorry to hear that.  Glad you are okay.   Sounds like you have 10's in the bag with some repairs.

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« Reply #68 on: October 13, 2019, 07:22:29 PM »
Ouch :o :o sorry to hear that hows the back after all jumping mounds?



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« Reply #69 on: October 13, 2019, 07:45:15 PM »
Starting to be a little sore. Not bad more my pride from being an idiot forgetting the gaskets.

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« Reply #70 on: October 14, 2019, 07:35:24 AM »
Glad to hear your okay and the only thing that's hurt is your pride and the car, they can both be fixed. I have a '64 Galaxie with no cage or bar knocking on the 10.99 door. I'm making the decision to slow the car down since I don't wanna put a cage in it. I'm building a purpose built drag car with a cage and all the proper safety gear. It's fun to brag about having a fast street car but a lot can go wrong at 120 mph especially with no bar and lap belts. 

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« Reply #71 on: October 14, 2019, 08:44:14 AM »
That sounds like a wild ride I never want to take!! Glad to hear you are ok and the car is mostly ok. Was hoping to see April fools or “then I woke up”!!!
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« Reply #72 on: October 14, 2019, 01:14:33 PM »
Yes Paulie I think im knocking on the door and would have had it if the gasket didnt get sucked in there.

Good idea building another car for racing but not in the cards for me money wise Fred. I just want to see 10s then gonna run 11.50s and be consistant.

Hey Heo the back is alittle soar but thank God not in my surgery spot.

John while it was happening I was trying to stay calm so I could think. Definetly wild. And i wish it was a dream, I will be going there to look at car tommorrow so hopefully its not to bad. I will keep you informed.

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« Reply #73 on: October 14, 2019, 06:11:43 PM »
Dang, Joe, sorry to hear about that. It sounds like you're lucky the car didn't grab and roll over when the tire dug in. It also sounds like you would have gotten that 10 second time slip for sure. Apparently that MR intake was making a real difference. Just glad that you are ok and that the car wasn't hurt badly. Hopefully, nothing on the frame was hurt.

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« Reply #74 on: October 14, 2019, 07:18:55 PM »
Yeah Doug that’s what I’m worried about, I guess I will be doing some measuring. To bad there aren’t any specs that I can measure against

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« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2019, 08:06:17 PM »
Yeah Doug that’s what I’m worried about, I guess I will be doing some measuring. To bad there aren’t any specs that I can measure against

The 1967 Ford Mustang Shop Manual has the pertinent body measurements you can check against.

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« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2019, 09:44:54 PM »
Awesome thanks Kevin that’s a big help.

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« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2019, 08:06:09 PM »
So I didn’t get to take car out of trailer but did take carbs off and check for dirt in intake and although there was a dusting on carbs it looks like I dodged a Bullit. Put carbs back on a fired her up all seems good. Went to shut off key and it won’t turn off like I’m not turning switch. Seems like I need an ignition switch. I disconnected dizzy to get it to turn off but fuel pump still running, I had to disconnect battery. I know the car got banged around but for the ignition switch to go bad is weird. Anybody think it could be anything else.

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« Reply #78 on: October 20, 2019, 05:21:33 PM »
Joe I haven’t read the whole thread. Is your ignition through an MSD box?
If so and IIRC (which is always suspect) I had to install a relay in line to get my truck to work consistently.
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« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2019, 07:30:18 AM »
I am running an MSD6AL. IIRC whats that. This is the second time this has happened to me in like 2.5 to 3 years. 
Maybe three times I always change the ignition switch and it works but maybe something is making them crap out.
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« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2019, 01:19:13 PM »
Do you have an electric fan on the radiator?  I had the same problem with an AC cobra I had some years ago  either shut off the fan first or find a way to isolate it from your ignition / key switch
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« Reply #81 on: October 21, 2019, 01:29:23 PM »
I do have an electric fan that runs off of a temp switch. So your saying put a toggle in between to shut power off.

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« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2019, 08:32:17 PM »
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« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2019, 06:57:29 AM »
Thanks will try that

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« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2020, 07:01:15 PM »
First to Russ67scode the not shutting off with the key you told me to take a look at my electric fans. Well it was my fuel pump so thank you for steering me in the right direction. I shut it off before I shut the car off.

Well anyway went out today to make sure the car was ok after my 4 wheel drive spectacle. I ended up needing a lower control arm and strut rod so of course I got both and a rim and 2 tires and a wheel alignment.
First pass I ran an 11.15 @ 121.44 it felt good but I felt a little on guard because of going off the track.
Second pass I ran an 11.14 @ 121.37 I really thought I might get into the 10s but maybe it’s not in the cards. But I was happy that it was consistent and the car went straight.
So FE reunion here we come!

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« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2020, 09:07:58 PM »
Great news.  That 10 second pass is gonna happen as the good fall air comes in.

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« Reply #86 on: August 31, 2020, 11:28:45 AM »
Get an oil pressure shutoff switch for that fuel pump too.

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« Reply #87 on: August 31, 2020, 01:11:52 PM »
What exactly do you mean Drew. Do you mean in case of rollover. And if that is what you mean do you have one in mind.

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« Reply #88 on: August 31, 2020, 10:47:56 PM »
I’d have to look it up.
Mine is from Carter. Shuts the engine off anytime there is less than 6psi oil pressure. Takes 5 minutes to plumb in. Nice piece of mind tho.

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« Reply #89 on: August 31, 2020, 10:56:54 PM »
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« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2020, 01:15:13 PM »
Stangman, you are back on the horse. Awesome!
Good luck at Reunion.
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« Reply #91 on: September 12, 2020, 09:44:30 PM »
Well just got home and the FE Reunion was great. I don’t think there was as many cars as usual but it was close. What there was was a lot of different cars that I’ve never seen before. Including Russ with his twin turbo Fairlane. Well back to the meat and potatoes. I got my fastest time this weekend with a 11.07. I got a couple of them and a couple of 11.08s. Throw in a splatter of times up to 11.23. I got tossed in the second round of hot FE by a nice T bolt. I cut a good light .047 but spun the tire off the line and just didn’t have it that run, that was my 11.23. Well got to hang with my buddies Steve and Ed who bought a Blair Patrick motor and cut there times by over a second. Thanks to all who made it happen

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« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2020, 09:19:27 AM »
Awesome, sniffing 10s!

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« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2020, 04:41:04 PM »
Stangman I think we ran each other first round on Saturday. I had the white ‘67 Fairlane. You cut a much better light than I and just couldn’t catch you. Good run!

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« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2020, 04:51:17 PM »
Saw your car run once on Saturday, that thing gets a ton of separation in the rear suspension on launch but looked nice and controlled, looks like you’re making plenty of progress!

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« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2020, 06:39:11 PM »
Thanks John you have a nice car and I don’t have the slip in front of me but I think we both cut a bad light, we were both sleeping but we had a lot of fun. This is what I was talking about I think last year or the year before, we should have like name tags so we can put a name to the face.

Thanks Chilly, I don’t really think that separation is supposed to happen but for the most part my car hooks but maybe I could get it right and gain some time out of it.

Would have liked to meet both of you guys.

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« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2020, 06:55:11 PM »
I was running around like a nut, didn’t really intend to run my car but once I got there decided to make some laps so I had to get it teched last minute and such, hectic day.   I need to get up for Thurs/Fri when there’s more time to check out cars and relax a bit

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« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2020, 07:18:29 PM »
Nice job, Joe. What speeds were you running? Don't forget that Beaver is uphill, and I'm guessing that would have put you right at the 10 second mark if it was flat. What was the wind like this year? Wish I could have made it.
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« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2020, 07:56:42 PM »
All my MPHs were between 118.87 and 120.90 unless I got of the car in one of the passes. I have gone as fast as 121.97. Across from me this week was a 66 fairlane the same color as mine with a Jericho and he was 123/124 and running 10.70s so I don’t know if it’s because he has a stick or something wrong with my setup but if I get 1 to 2 miles an hour I’m not going to pic up 3 tenths

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« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2020, 08:18:21 PM »
A stick car will generally MPH higher due to no convertor slippage. His 10.70 would also account for more MPH compared to your 11.0. Other than you ran the same track at the same time so weather wasn't a factor, I wouldn't read too much into the MPH because there's too many variables between cars to compare. Your car ran good, had fun and no one got hurt so congrats.

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« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2020, 10:32:40 AM »
Congrats on another personal best.  Car has come a long way - all from tuning since as I understand it the basic combination still remains the same as when it was screwed together a few years ago.  Nice work. 

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« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2020, 12:21:42 PM »
Thanks Barry yeah all the same. I was going to jet up the secondaries 2 numbers because I never did it when I went from the low riser intake to the medium riser. Took it apart and forgot to bring jets with me of course. The guy next to me CHris who is in charge of the Cobra jet registry had a pair of 84s but I need 4 and I think going from 81 to 84 would be a lot. I think 83 would be good. Sorry you couldn’t make it this year.

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« Reply #102 on: September 15, 2020, 09:11:47 AM »
Thanks Posi 67 I guess sometimes you think to much into it. But yes the main thing is we made it through the weekend.

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« Reply #103 on: September 16, 2020, 12:44:34 AM »
Stangman,
This is SUCH a great thread - keep it going!
I just followed it thru with the Gonkulator as best I could.
Very interesting - the parts where you ran with/without air cleaner and mufflers.
Gonkulator says your air cleaner costs about 10 Net HP, mufflers cost about another 20 Net HP.
(note neither one of these affects GROSS HP).
Also the Gonk thinks the Med Riser intake is adding 28 ftlb and 34hp, now peaking at 6000 instead of 5800.
I had been shifting the Gonkulator at 6400, and raising it to 6600 only gained .01 sec and 0.1mph so no point revving it to the moon.

Mainly, if you can take note of the weather, and even the WIND - it affects the MPH a lot with a brick-like car that fast. Even a walking-speed wind of 4mph will cut over 1mph off your trap speed.
Even on my little 300-400hp GTECH runs, I always note the Temp, Pressure, Humidity, Altitude, and wind.

With the kind of traction & launches you've already done, combined with decent weather, the car Gonkulates 10.83-10.93 at 123-124mph, all shifted at 6400.
So great to follow all this.

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« Reply #104 on: September 16, 2020, 07:11:00 AM »
Really great, congrats.
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« Reply #105 on: September 16, 2020, 08:34:06 PM »
Didnt answer your second question Doug, there was a cross wind not much maybe 10 miles and hour. Not all three days but i think on Saturday it was.

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« Reply #107 on: September 25, 2020, 10:10:21 PM »
Nice Chilly thanks for the pic.

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« Reply #108 on: September 25, 2020, 10:45:45 PM »
I love that Mustang.  The lime gold is gorgeous.  And a great engine combination, too. 

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« Reply #109 on: September 26, 2020, 11:59:22 AM »
Agree, beautiful car.
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« Reply #110 on: October 08, 2021, 01:12:09 PM »
Ok Found it!
(For the exhaust open vs closed comparison)
Can you add:
What cam?
Which headers? (1-3/4 or 2-1/8 race supercomps)
Compression?

Also, when you ran the open header setup, were you carrying the exhaust system weight too? Probably 40 lb lighter without it at least.
Looks like at least 0.2 sec and 2+ mph gain running 'open"

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« Reply #111 on: October 08, 2021, 04:33:28 PM »
cam 280-288  lift 621-624 250/254 @50  lobe 112
hooker super comp 1 3/4
I wasnt carrying the exhaust on my 11.07 pass.
compression 10.75.

Just a heads up Werby Im gonna have a new set up this year.
Maybe not much,,Different cam alittle head work probably enough to get me into the 10s.
I mean I only need .07 Im sure Im gonna get that. May have gotten it with alittle cooler weather.

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« Reply #112 on: October 08, 2021, 11:49:14 PM »
cam 280-288  lift 621-624 250/254 @50  lobe 112
hooker super comp 1 3/4
I wasnt carrying the exhaust on my 11.07 pass.
compression 10.75.

Just a heads up Werby Im gonna have a new set up this year.
Maybe not much,,Different cam alittle head work probably enough to get me into the 10s.
I mean I only need .07 Im sure Im gonna get that. May have gotten it with alittle cooler weather.

Thanks LOL I forgot I'd started Gonkulating this about a year ago in this thread! Cant find it all tho so not sure what I guessed at.

Gonkulator says the MR intake is adding about 23 Torq & 30 HP vs the LR intake.
About .15 ET and 2 MPH better than the LR.
That's if weather, driving, track & tune are all the same.
Gotta be knocking on the door of the 10s already.

What about more converter? Torq peak is 4000-4200 in the Gonkulator so near 4000 stall might be ideal, especially if you add more cam.
Then again, not as streetable.
Admirable goal to have a street car in the 10s just by ditching the exhaust!

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« Reply #113 on: October 09, 2021, 03:33:06 PM »
Like I said I’m at 11.07 with the exhaust off. So I just need a smidge. I know I can get into the 10s with a little cooler air and a smidge more tuning but I’m already in the works with a new cam and bigger valve in the cylinder head ( intake). Other than that maybe some port matching no porting.

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« Reply #114 on: October 10, 2021, 10:11:29 AM »
You gonna get that 10 sec pass this fall?
‘Round here the tracks close end of this month.
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« Reply #115 on: September 11, 2022, 06:01:30 PM »
So I just got back from the Reunion and as usual we had a great time. So I got my motor in the car and took it for a ride only a week ago so it was the mad rush to get it together. I don’t know how but we made it. So anyway around town all seemed pretty good but at the track the car was a dog off the line. My 60 ft times are usually in th 1.53 to 1.55 with the previous motor and except for one 1.52 on Thursday I wasn’t getting anything better than a 1.57 and most were higher especially Saturday they were all 1.59. I wasn’t going to change a lot of things at the track so we just tried to be as consistent as possible with what we had. Now my best time previously was a 11.07 at 121.87 if I remember correctly I could go back and check but I’m not. My first pass was a 10.97 at 122.45 so I was happy to be in the 10s but I was really hoping for more. Fiddling with foot brake rpms I did run a 10.93 which is my best time but that was with a 1.57 60 ft time. I will be making some of my own adjustments on the carbs before the next time out  to get those 60 foot times in the low 50s to high 40s I hope. I made like 11 runs and they were all between 10.93 and 11.03. So in eliminations I made it to the third round but I was helping someone with there car and didn’t here them call hot Fe and when I realized that there wasn’t a lot of cars near me I asked my daughter if they called hot Fe and I jumped in my car drove up to the staging lanes and there was one car left in the lanes and he had the bye. I drove right past him and the guy I raced was just starting his burnout so I rushed up there and did my burnout and  I had my dial in at 11.01 cause as the day went on my car was slowing up so anyway I redlighted and normally you can see that but I didn’t and I ran it out and ran a 10.95 anyway so the moral of the story is pay attention ;). Anyway got to meet a few more guys up there and had my daughter and Harry helping me in the pits. It was good to see Steve and Ed again. I haven’t made a pass in 2 years so being that the car wasn’t up to snuff and me being rusty the weekend was a success and nothing broke. Well my temperature gauge broke on the second to last run. So I would like to get out one more time but I’m not gonna go if I can’t play around with the carbs.

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Re: 1967 fastback 485
« Reply #116 on: September 11, 2022, 07:06:42 PM »
Well all right! I’m sorry I did not get to connect with you and congrats on the improvements. Nice to be in the 10s and very consistent.  It must have been a thrash after just getting engine back. ( For me it seems like it’s always a thrash for one reason or another, lol).
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« Reply #117 on: September 11, 2022, 07:45:50 PM »
Were you there 6667 I got to see a bunch of guys  that I talk to on the forum.

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Re: 1967 fastback 485
« Reply #118 on: September 11, 2022, 08:15:38 PM »
A real 10 second street FE. That is really quite an accomplishment, Joe. And on your first run! The weather looked decent, but I didn't notice humidity or altitude (I do know that humidity at night was high). I'm sure you'll squeeze out a bit more as you tinker with it. No issues with the engine has to feel good. Nice job!
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Re: 1967 fastback 485
« Reply #119 on: September 11, 2022, 08:47:54 PM »
Thanks Doug we missed ya maybe next year. The car is very sluggish off the line, I’m gonna play around with the carbs but I’m happy I didn’t break anything. I think after I get to were I want to be I’m hoping for another couple of tenths which isn’t as fast as I thought it would be but I’m reluctant on getting a bigger converter. I don’t see why I can’t get it to run in the 10.70 range with the proper carb tuning to get the 60 foot times were there supposed to be.

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« Reply #120 on: September 11, 2022, 09:08:17 PM »
Joe, I never saw your car or I would have tried to find you. Should have asked for a cell number ahead of time.
Right out of the gate with the new engine and your car did so well. I’m certain you will be finding some tenths.
Awesome!
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« Reply #121 on: September 11, 2022, 11:01:36 PM »
God willing there’s always next year.

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« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2023, 08:31:01 PM »
So got home last night from the Beaver and the reunion and again had a great time. So I haven’t been to the track since last years reunion so I was excited to race because I got my new torque converter which was better suited for my camshaft. So my original setup I was getting 1.53-1.55 60 ft times then I changed cams and left the same converter in and had 1.57-1.61 60 ft times but was still running 10.93. With my new converter now I was hoping for a 10.70 or so but now I’m getting 60 ft times of 1.63-1.69. To say I was bummed would be an understatement and to boot my fastest time was 11.23. I checked a lot of things but couldn’t really pinpoint anything so I had a different brand new distributor which was curved for my motor so heLL ill give it a try. Well it wasn’t any better 1.66-1.69. So after wrenching on it for 2 days in the brutal heat I just got it to run as well as possible which even though I wasn’t happy it was consistent. Almost all of my passes were between 11.23 and 11.29.
So we said screw it and went with it. We won the first round and red lighted in the second round. So we had thought that’s it but desided to go into the bird race. Glad we did because with a couple of good lights and probably a lot of luck we were able to win the Ford eagle. Well we had a great time and I was happy I got my dad out there this year along with my daughter and Harry for my pit crew. I will be trying to find out my problem with my 60 ft times. I think it feels like the converter but it’s hard to know. I’m a little confused right now.

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Re: 1967 fastback 485
« Reply #123 on: September 10, 2023, 08:52:29 PM »
This is the first I've seen anyone even mention the FER&R. It looked like a lot of rain in the area Saturday, so wasn't sure if they got the track dry enough to race.
Glad you had fun and got a win, Joe, and glad you got your Dad there. Makes up for some of the disappointment. That's a bummer about the convertor not working out. It was looser than your old one, wasn't it?
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« Reply #124 on: September 10, 2023, 10:58:20 PM »
Ya know Doug they say if you get into third gear and go about 25-30 mph and gas it quick and see what the rpm goes to that’s what the stall or should I say the flash rpm is and it goes to 4200 but I’m not seeing that off the line. Now I have changed a bunch of stuff like a roll cage and frame connectors and I readjusted the cal tracks and put a little preload on them. I also changed the Calvert rear shocks from #7 to #8 but it is just a dog off the line. I mean I’m not even worried about a traction problem because it feels like I have like no horsepower. I’ve tried everything. With my other motor and a 3000 stall the car like exploded off the line. I used to have my timing at 18 initial and the biggest bushing which is 18 degrees mechanical. Now I have the initial at anywhere between 22-26 with 32 to 34 all in and and you would think that would give me more low end power but I wonder if maybe my motor don’t like that timing setup. I also had some carb problems that Larry pointed out when he was trying to help me(thanks Larry). I almost at this point want to put everything back to how it was originally and see if it will be different. So I’m not sure right now if it’s timing ,fuel or maybe my converter I got is just to tight. I did have a problem with ATI on the whole ordering thing they first sent me a C-4 torque converter and they fixed the screw up but who the hell knows if they got it right the second time at least now it fits in the car. Like I said last year with the 3000 stall it was a dog off the line but I was running 10.90s now I was hoping for 10.70s or more with the new converter and I’m at 11.23 slower than my original motor. It also wasn’t really running right almost like missing or shaking but I have the idle at like 12-1300 and I think I was into the transfer slots but I keep it up a little because of an uneasy feeling of oil pressure hot. I’m very disappointed right now. I’m not made of money and spent a lot and I’m going the wrong way.

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« Reply #125 on: September 11, 2023, 02:35:33 PM »
I thought there was a 21 or 25 degree bushing in the kit? Not that it matters, you are probably better off with having the 22-26 initial. What were the other racers saying about their times? Conditions must have been tough for wrenching.
I pulled the plug on Thursday and canceled my hotel reservation. The weather looked too bad for me to open trailer my car 7 plus hours. I would have been pulling home in the rain for certain.

Congrats on winning the Bird race. Was it 1/8 mile for that?
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« Reply #126 on: September 11, 2023, 04:57:04 PM »
Too many changes to sort out at once. First thing I would do is video the launch close up for tire spin or wrap up or a nice leave. Air pressure front an back make a difference in 60’ times. Move on to throttle linkage to make sure it’s opening fully (and closing) “it also wasn’t really running right” were you looking for a bog? Go back to original settings with best leave. How you leave is important, do you foot brake to 3000 and flash 4000? You shouldn’t need a timing curve at those rpm just an all in number. 32 to 34 all in seems low to me, my old iron heads were 40 and I was advised to use 38 as a starting point with my new Edlebrocks. If oil pressure is up and consistent don’t worry to much about the idle pressure unless it’s practically not showing. And since it’s about 1yr later (I don’t know if it was used much between) give it a once over for vacuum leaks.
My best $.02 from someone still on the sideline
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« Reply #127 on: September 11, 2023, 10:26:19 PM »
Mike I agree a lot of changes but same dizzy and same carbs. As far as launch it’s such a dog off the line that there’s no tire spin. As far as tire pressure I run 35 in the front and 18 in the back and check it after every run. I tried every take off from just stabbing it to resting my foot on the gas to a nice clean spot let’s say 1500 and gas it to 2200 and stabbing it. Now another thing I did do since new motor is I had a tranny shop go through tranny and change clutches and seals. Is there anything in a C-6 that can effect first gear like binding or something like that it sort of feels like I’m leaving in second gear although when I hit second it does go in and at that time it takes off. I will be checking if I have the shift cable adjusted right. And I don’t think I ever checked to make sure the shift lever was tight. I appreciate the comments at this point it could be anything and I’m always willing to listen. The day you know everything your kicking up daisys

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« Reply #128 on: September 12, 2023, 12:09:25 AM »
I went back and read a bunch of earlier post, trying to keep the timeline straight but this “leave like a dog” cropped up after a cam and converter change? I’ll add a few more things to my previous list -
Re-establish TDC (with a piston stop) verify it matches your balancer pointer (some FE balancers are marked incorrectly.) With a degree wheel I would check the cam verifying it was ground correctly including the timing gears. Have you run it with more advance or is it still where the original cam from Barry was installed?
With no bog or stumbling it doesn’t seem to point to the carbs especially if they haven’t been touched since it was leaving much better.
I’m sure you will find it and I’m interested in hearing what it is.
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« Reply #129 on: September 14, 2023, 09:07:28 AM »
I went right past your reply 6667. The guys around me where off on thurs and Friday but on Saturday it wasn’t that bad at all. And yes I did a lot of wrenching on Thursday and Friday morning and it was brutally hot. No matter how much you drank it would come out faster. I thought I heard someone say the mike weaks said the DA was like 3100 ft if that makes sense. No fun towing with an open trailer with your baby been there done that. Yeah because of the rain on Friday night going into Saturday morning they couldn’t get the back half of the track dry so yeah they went 1/8 mile. It don’t bother me much I’ve done a lot of 1/8 mile at South Mountain.

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« Reply #130 on: September 20, 2023, 10:40:44 PM »
Mike I will go over those things. I got car out of trailer Sunday and change dizzy back to my original. I have carbs off just to make sure all passages are clear and I’m gonna check inside bowls and bleeds for clenliness. I’m gonna find it. I talked to me tranny guy but of course he doesn’t think it’s the tranny.i have never got my tranny done and had it work that’s why I bought two trannys from TCI.