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Re: Engine Masters 2016
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2016, 09:25:34 PM »
Thank you Doug for the pictures.  I was busy and ultimately didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked.

Five weeks ago I thought I was going to have to bow out of the competition due to not having connecting rods for the Y-Block combination I was planning on building.  Joe Craine stepped up and offered to loan me his billet crank and h-beam rods sitting here for the Y that is being built for his '55 'Bird.  While my original combination was going to be just shy of 401 cubic inches, Joe's crank and rods allowed me to come up with a 375 incher.  Roughly about a quarter of an inch in stroke difference between the two cranks.  As it turns out, the 375 incher ran quite well.  The new fuel injection manifold designed by John and Geoff Mummert was still warm out of the molds when Joe received one for an initial examination.  Joe called me saying it could use some additional work as which point I let him have a free hand in doing some interior mods to it.  This manifold was originally designed to mount a throttle body to the front of it, some injectors in the sides and have a fuel injection manifold on your run of the mill Y.  It's been modified to mount a pair of Holleys on the top either inline or sideways mounted.  Initial testing had the carbs inline and when repositioning the carbs in a sideways orientation, there was no noted change in HP or TQ numbers.  But jetting is definitely easier in the sideways format.

Being the number two engine to run during the competition, it pretty much puts a score up on the board that allows the remaining competitors to shoot for.  As it turned out, the 2785 point score held out to the end.

As Royce mentioned, he brought three engines to this fight.  And to make it more difficult, it's three different engine families.  Great job by Royce and especially considering how fast the MEL engine was assembled during the prior week.  Pistons arrive Wednesday, engine is assembled Thursday, and fireup on a test stand on Friday.  That's incredible.  While the rocker arm bolt failure on the MEL engine came after making a couple of good pulls at the Challenge, the potential of that engine is now evident.

That's my story and I'm sticking by it.  Ted Eaton.

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Re: Engine Masters 2016
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 12:17:18 PM »
Engine Masters posted a cool video of this years Vintage Class and some of their dyno pulls including our own hero's Royce B. And Ted E. Worth the view, here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr1z7iiBysk
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Re: Engine Masters 2016
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2016, 02:12:43 PM »
Very cool!

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Re: Engine Masters 2016
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 03:27:30 PM »
Don't forget Geoff Mummert...  It is his parts that make all that power
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
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Re: Engine Masters 2016
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2016, 01:17:36 AM »
Not surprised to hear that Ted Eaton won an engine challenge. Pretty cool to hear how much power he got from a Y block though. Just imagine an old Thunderbird with that under the hood.
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Re: Engine Masters 2016
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2016, 10:10:01 PM »
Back about 1958 or so, there was still a circle track at the Michigan State Fairgrounds at 8 Mile on the East side of Woodward. There was a race advertised between Corvettes and Thunderbirds. A whole raft of Corvettes showed up but only one T-bird. Let me suggest that you take a bit of time and look up the '57 Thunderbird called 'Battlebird'. Driven by Chuck Daigh, it had no trouble lapping the field within about two laps.

I was in the beginning of high school at the time and took the DSR bus from where we lived in East Dearborn. The crowd seemed to be quite chivverlay oriented and sneered and made snide comments about a Thunderbird with a long fairing behind the driver but quieted down a bit as soon as things got going. Battlebird was backed by FoMoCo so it probably had the very best of everything.

It'd be interesting to compare the engine in it with the best of today's offerings.

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Re: Engine Masters 2016
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2016, 12:34:36 PM »
See the link below for lots of details on Barry's 2016 Engine Masters efforts:

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=4396.0
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