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turbohunter

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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #255 on: May 04, 2020, 08:34:29 AM »
Thanks for that Heo
Marc
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'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #256 on: May 04, 2020, 02:26:23 PM »
Love your build, absolutely beautiful.  Curious about your EFI...Are you running your injectors batch fire or sequential?  I did sequential on my FAST system, but that required a cam position sync signal that is generated by FAST's proprietary distributor.  So i figure you're either running batch or your ECU does something pretty nifty...

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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #257 on: May 04, 2020, 02:29:35 PM »
Marc is running full sequential EFI.  He has a crank sensor and a cam sensor.
Jay Brown
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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #258 on: May 04, 2020, 06:13:54 PM »
Where is the cam sensor, Jay?  I don't see a connector on the distributor plug. 

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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #259 on: May 04, 2020, 06:39:22 PM »
Here it is.
Thank you for the kind words.
The link to Jays set up thread is below.



Here’s the target





Here’s the thread where Jay explained how he set his up.

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=4760.0
Marc
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'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #260 on: May 04, 2020, 08:02:50 PM »
Thanks! I completely forgot about that thread... There's just way too much quality information on this site to keep track of!

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« Reply #261 on: May 11, 2020, 06:12:32 PM »
Just a quick update.
Really big day today. After weeks of wiring I finally got far enough to fire up the system. I’m waiting for a couple resistors to show up (damn shutdown) then I’ll have it fully wired. I was able to program the computer for a while then it got pissed at me that I didn’t have the wiring finished so I had to hang it up. Just two more connections.
But the headline is, IT ALL WORKS. I’m really happy with going overboard the way I did and installing circuit breakers and different legs of power.
It’s making everything very simple.
So now it’s a slow march toward engine fire up. I’m going to check each system as I go and make sure all is well.
Can’t believe it all works. 8)
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #262 on: May 11, 2020, 10:21:11 PM »
That’s great Marc. Sounds like a happy day.
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« Reply #263 on: May 20, 2020, 08:08:04 PM »
Just a little update.
I’m in computer hell right now (never had this problem with carbs  ;D ). After my initial tuning session I have lost communication between my computer and the ECU. I’ll figure it out, it’s probably something stupid. But in the meantime I’ve been getting all the systems like brakes and clutch and, and, and, up and charged or together so that all is ready to fire up.
It’s funny when you get to this stage. All the stupid stuff you’ve done during the build come back to haunt you. Example. Remember that wiring setup I did in my trunk? It’s really cool and has helped immensely but, I made one mistake. I’ve wired Ford solenoids many times (As I’m sure you all have) so that was my go to way to wire this deal. However there is one thing that I and probably a lot of us don’t think about. And at first I was totally at a loss when I went to turn over the engine to check start mode and nothing happened. What??? I done this over and over, what’s up? Well it took me a while of checking current with a light and everything is hooked up correctly. WTH? Thought about it and in the middle of the night it hit me. Ford solenoids ground through the bracket. Never have to think about that when you mount them on a fender.  ::) Where I mounted it there was not a good ground. The aluminum mount I made was powder coated. The only chance the bracket had was through the bolts that held it to the bracket. But the bottom of my mount was also powder coated. No ground. Ran a wire and viola, engine turnover.
It’s the little details.
I’ve progressed far enough to finally clean all the cut off wire and tools out of the interior and get it kinda together so here’s a pic of the control room. Sorry it’s bright sun out in front so it’s flare time.
Getting closer. :)

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'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #264 on: May 20, 2020, 09:14:16 PM »
Looks great....I have a TKO 600 in my 68.Tell me about the shifter stick and knob...That's looks like the stick I want..Resembles the comp plus stick...
1968 Mustang Fastback...427 MR 5spd (owned since 1977)
1967 Mustang coupe...Trans Am replica
1936 Diamond T 212BD
1990 Grizzly pick-up

turbohunter

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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #265 on: May 20, 2020, 09:34:47 PM »
Thanks
12 inch Hurst stick right off Summit. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/huu-5388022
Lots of lengths to check out.
The knob too.
BTW the bend and length of the shifter fit perfectly. I’m a big dude, I’ve moved my seat stand back 4 inches and two inches lower.

Edit
I might be fos on the knob. It may have come with the trans, can’t remember.
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'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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« Reply #266 on: May 21, 2020, 11:17:15 PM »
Perfect....I will have a look......Thanks
1968 Mustang Fastback...427 MR 5spd (owned since 1977)
1967 Mustang coupe...Trans Am replica
1936 Diamond T 212BD
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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #267 on: May 25, 2020, 05:32:01 PM »
This is going to be cool! Can't wait to see it running.
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« Reply #268 on: June 01, 2020, 04:46:18 PM »
Finally found the computer problem.
You computer guys may like this.
It was a combination of input from Jay and the guys at the manufacturer. Jay thought it may be a fuse problem and one of the guys at Hoffman thought it sounded like a voltage problem. It was, but the way to the answer was way around the mountain.
First the ECU had three good green lights so it was fired up. But the computer would NOT find it. Why? I’m tied directly into the ECU via a usb cable. I completely re installed my computer and all the software. Reloaded all the drivers. Had a friend come over with his computer in case mine was junk. Nothing worked. The answer was within both inputs from the guys. Jay had asked me to try measuring the output voltage on one of the wires out. It should be 5 volts. It was only 3.3 volts. So a voltage problem. The ECU is fired, why is there an output problem.
I started measuring voltage from the battery to the complete other end. I got to the input from the battery to the ECU, it read 3.3 volts, wth. It should be 13. On a whim I pulled the fuse, but why would I, it was powered up. The fuse was blown. No way that the ECU was getting 13 volts. I replaced the fuse and viola, we had power. Checked the voltage at the output wire I had checked before and had 5 volts. Fired up the ECU and the computer found it and talked to it again. But why?
The answer lies with the anatomy of the ECU. In the directions it says to run the ECU and the fuel pump off the same relay. Of course being an over builder and after talking with Jay I ran a separate relay for each. Inside the ECU the fuel pump and ECU share some diodes and other structures so when the fuse blew on the ECU side I still had juice flowing through the fuel side so they where in essence sharing the juice.
So, the ECU looked like it was fired up when in fact it was not.
So, now it’s just confirming operations and heading toward fire up.
I am waiting for a shroud and fan set up for the radiator. That’s a whole other story. No room. I’ll show the fix.
Anyway we’re getting there.
I did this to learn and man alive am I learning.
Sigh.
Carbs are so easy ::)
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Disease please, I'll take two.
« Reply #269 on: June 03, 2020, 10:12:56 AM »
You guys have done an outstanding job.....of convincing me to stick with carburetors..lol

Glad you found the issue, Marc. "Ghost" voltage has caused me many headaches in the past, on all kinds of equipment. While that wasn't exactly your problem, stuff like that can be a real PITA to track down. I still can't figure out why I'm going through a distributor pickup about once a year. I'm convinced it's because the MSD uses a Chevy cap design. That's my story anyway.
Doug Smith


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