TO MOLEST A NOS,....427 SIDE OILER ?

[427HISS]

I may have a chance to purchase a NOS,........427 Side Oiler that has not been run.
I'm  wanting to build a 600 HP/TQ 428 or better, a side oiler for my 427 Cobra.
The question is, do I really want bore  & stroke a NOS engine ?

[428kidd]

More than likely it will be a later side oiler , so not really numbers correct for anything. If it is NOS , shouldn't really need boring , so I would check the bores. If it does need bored , go the minimum , and get pistons made. Stroking it will be no issue , again just make sure your pistons fit your combo. Going with a good strong block will only help your project not hurt it. Thanks Lance

[427HISS]

With to few, I don't think I could live with myself if I bored it. The reasoning is, I want to bore a motor to 4.25 squared for 482ci. to produced over 600 HP/Q.
I don't think I'd be happy with only 400-450 HP. But wow, a NOS side oiler would exciting in a Cobra !   

I'm also on a tight budget, especially for a Side Oiler.

[garyv]

If you are on a tight budget I would just run the stock 427.
It will produce more HP/TQ than you can probably handle in a light cobra.
Building stroker motor is not cheap but an easy way to make power.
If you have a NOS side oiler I certainly would not bore it just to gain a few more cubes.
I would put a stroker kit in one but no need to bore it just because you are fixated on a HP/TQ number.
Just make sure if you mess with this thing to get someone that knows what they are doing to help you.
Building FE's is not building a SBC.
My 2 cents
garyv

[blykins]

The difference between a standard bore (4.233") and "boring" it to 4.250" is only 4 cubic inches.  You'd never know the difference.  With that being said, there's a lot more piston/ring options out there for a 4.250", which is only .017" over. 

A 600 hp 482 will require aftermarket heads, BBM, SM, Pond, etc.  By the time you pay $3000-4000 for an NOS 427 block, you're looking at close to $17-18k for a turn-key engine that will make that much horsepower. 

Personally, I'd go the stroked 390 route.  Some Cobra replicas will fare better with a true "427".  Some will do just fine with a stroked FE.

[Yellow Truck]

Brent - I assume you meant $30,000 to $40,000 for a NOS 427. If they are available at $3,000 to $4,000 I'll take two.

[blykins]

The OP is talking about an NOS *block*, which is what I mentioned up above. 

If you want an NOS 427 block for $30000, I have some I'll sell you. 

[shady]

450 hp in a cobra is perfect.

[Yellow Truck]

Brent,

He doesn't actually say it is only a block, and if you read my post, I'll take two complete NOS 427s for $4,000 each!

[blykins]

Ah, good catch, my bad.

He's also on Club Cobra and has gone through several different scenarios, with a couple of them being NOS blocks.  That's why in my reply to him, I mentioned the block alone in my price estimate....all his threads are running together for me. 

[Drew Pojedinec]

I'm surprised more people don't go the "stroked 390" route for a cobra.

I know mine moves my Galaxie faster than my tires can handle.  I broke the tires loose the other day at 60mph.....  a cobra is what, 2000lbs lighter?

[428kidd]

People always get caught up in numbers... 427 and the like. Then things like 600 horse power , Most people cant drive a car with 600 horse power or tune it for that matter. Much less drive a cobra with 600 horsepower. For what is spent on the block you could put in a set of program caps in a 390 block and throw a 4.25 stroker kit in and be half way there, well maybe not half way, but a lot farther along. Heck through some good heads on that thing with the extra money saved and have a reliable, street able motor that makes killer horsepower  , and if you blow it up you haven't killed a 3 to 5 thousand dollar block.

[Yellow Truck]

Ah, good catch, my bad.

He's also on Club Cobra and has gone through several different scenarios, with a couple of them being NOS blocks.  That's why in my reply to him, I mentioned the block alone in my price estimate....all his threads are running together for me.

So no possibility of a $4,000 427 long block?

As for most people not being able to handle 600 hp in a car - back in '88 I had a Mark VII with the Mustang GT 5.0 (impressive 225 hp for the day) and a friend with the T-Bird and the detuned 5.0 was looking at replacing his due to some issues he had and you could buy used 5.0 GT mills for very little, but not the standard mill -  however all the 5.0 GTs were all equipped with nitrous. You can see where this is going. Young guys would buy a Mustang and put nitrous on it and wrap it around the next tree, hence the large supply of used low mileage 5.0 GTs available.

[cammerfe]

As I read through this thread, I was reminded of the story of how Shelby got the Cobra off the ground. He went to AC and told them he had a connection to get V8 engines from 'one of the US manufacturers'. On the strength of that he got them to send him a car minus the engine and trans.
Then he went to chibrolet and told them he had a car that needed an engine and wanted to do a deal with them to be the supplier. Recognizing that such a combination would be the death of the korvetty they refused. So he went to Ford and made a deal for 260s.

Both AC and Ford thought the other part of the deal was already done.

With NO intent to diss the OP, it seems like "If I only had an engine I'd have a car, if I only had a kit".

TO THE OP---
Get the kit and put in a 351. Monkey with THAT engine. When you have a year of the 400-or-so HP that you can easily get from the Windsor, then plan carefully to go to an FE. With that, the sky's the limit. How fast do ya wanna go an' how big's yur wallet. We'll all be happy to help you spend your money. :-) :-) :-)

KS

[blykins]

He has a Cobra.  It had an FE in it, then sold it to build another.....but got bit by a shady engine builder.  He has a Cobra, ready to go....it just needs an engine.