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Finaly
« on: June 04, 2016, 07:00:37 PM »
Finaly i have a machined buildabel block. Painted and ready
to build. I have never had an engine fighting me like this.
cracked blocks,2 machine shop owners retiring, everything
around me falling apart so i had to repair it instead.My father
having a tripple bypass operation so i had to take care of
everything of his buissnes to
Final atack was the differential in my D.D.broke when i was
going to pick up the block att the machine shop ::)

But now i have 2 blocks so im building a 390 PI with speed pro
flat tops, a comp cams 294 S,ported C4 g heads streetmaster
intake.870 avenger shorty castiron headers for the Galaxie

And a 447 stroker with Mahle flat tops some new heads more cam and home
built IR EFI based on Jays adapter.....Need to find a lighter car
for that Engine. Something like a 64 fairlane or falcon or a 55-56 Ford
 



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Re: Finaly
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2016, 08:54:33 PM »
Congrats Heo!  Glad to hear you will have a running engine soon.  I think we can all appreciate persistence in the face of adversity.  It makes the beer taste a lot sweeter when the job is finally done!
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2016, 10:02:13 AM »
Big congrats Lars!   Looking forward to seeing pics of the 2 builds, and getting the Galaxie back on the road. 
A Question: have you made any mods to your shortie headers?   I understand they can have sealing problems at the outlet, due to having a two-bolt flat flange instead of a tapered donut seal like the other cast manifolds.  Interested in hearing your opinion.

Thanks,
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2016, 01:28:33 PM »
What i have done to the flange is i made two gaskets
out of copper sheat 1mm thick each. And heated them
with the gas torch to aneal them. And they sealed fine
for several years.
one side i had to retorque after a while but staye sealed
after that

Shall trye to take some photos if i find the camera

Edit: There is this castiron piece between the header
and the flange on the exhaust pipe. I chucked this up
in the lathe and macined it flat and machined a ridge
like a O-ring on both sides of it that grabs in to the
copper......remembered after a while ::)
« Last Edit: June 05, 2016, 03:07:19 PM by Heo »



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Re: Finaly
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2016, 07:05:30 PM »
Finaly im making some progress.First im building the 390 pi that came in the Galaxie.Nothing to write home to
mum about realy but BruceS wanted some pictures. The block I was going to use for the stroker was cracked.
 I preassure tested it with 6Kg/cm2 with no leak and no
vissible crack so i thought it was ok. But when i started to grind on it the crack become vissible for the
naked eye. i Could not find another block so i ordered parts for the pi and delivered it to the machine shop
for a line hone and paralell decking and a hone with stress plates. There came the next setback he was
retireing and closing the shop :( I sweet talked him in to do my block. With the new pistons it cleaned up all
scratces and stayed within tolerances. Then ifound a block for the stroker thanks to Landlubberatsea on this
forum.So its in the machine shop now (more sweet talking)

  I could not find my cambearingtool i made 35 years ago. So i borrowed a tool from a friend
and the bearings ended up crocked ::) i tried to straigten them
up. and it ended with i bought new bearings and searced for
my own tool and found it
So i installed the cam and crank a couple of weeks ago
Today i installed the rod and pistons

I had no piston cone for 4.11 so i made one in the lathe from som bronze scrap my father had in the
foundry


checking the ring gap

Mounting the rings


The PI rods was realy beat up luckily the cracked engine had reconditioned rods  and was a auto with
hydraulic cam so less risk its over reved in the past


Paralell decked to zero
I painted the block first with one cote PPG epoxi primer and then two coats PPG Global Black mixbase

OOOOPS Forgot to mount one..............No i counted them before i started and there was 17

Ok tolerances, On the big side but HV pump so...

opened up the pump and preoiled it
A new pump allready scratched  :(  To soft Steel in the cover


Nice collection in the oil pick up :o :o i know many that just reuse the old pickup and this is what you find in them

Opened it up and going to let it soak overnight then im going to install some perforated steel and fold the edge
back over. Ikea got cheap kitchen utensils made of perforated stainles so i have to go there if i dont find any
in the garage......How shall i manage that without taking the wife with me and spend a whole day at Ikea ::) ::)



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Re: Finaly
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2016, 07:26:21 PM »
One thing i do when i use studs. Is i put a steel ball
in the bottom of the hole and thigten it slightly
that way you got the stud to be paralell with the
hole and the treads  slightly preeloaded
Worked all the time when i was working as a repair
man in the industri and we had some problem with
studs breaking



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Re: Finaly
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2016, 07:56:34 PM »
Great stuff!  Picking up gems of knowledge along the way.  Looking forward to the rest of the build.

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Re: Finaly
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2016, 10:34:01 AM »
finished the pickup, With the perforated dish from
something i dont know the English name for.
But its a kitchen thing my wife gave me

I just had to cut away 2mm around it to fit then folded the
Edge back over it



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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2016, 06:45:09 PM »
I think the name for that is a "strainer".   8)
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2016, 07:11:27 PM »
Thanks Bruce. Looks like im the one picking up knowledge ;)
Any way my wife dont know she saved me from a trip to Ikea  ;D
I was going to install the windage tray and oilpan. But i have to
Mill some slots in the windage tray for the  studs.And there was a
birtday party i had to go to. And then i had to weld a ladder for
my father. So making a "shower head" is all i had time for to day



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Re: Finaly
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2016, 08:27:43 PM »
That's a cool idea Heo, using common kitchen tools to solve a problem. We used to have a trick I learned from another racer. Since the OEM Ford pickup tube is wide open under that metal strap (allowing a lot of junk into the oil stream) we wrapped the round section with steel window screen mesh and tied it off with safety-wired SS wire. Worked well in a SBF dragster but it was torn down every week (or it more often blew up every week!) so it may not be a practical street fix.

Still wonder why Ford didn't have a a full screen like all Gen 1 SBC's!   
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Re: Finaly
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2016, 02:48:31 PM »
Any chance for a few pics of your tapered ring installer and the process you used to make it? I have some scrap and a large lathe, I have been wanting to try making a couple.

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2016, 04:15:26 PM »
I get you picks and description tomorrow



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Re: Finaly
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2016, 06:55:25 PM »
Great stuff Heo!  I'll have to remember that ball bearing trick for the studs.

Looks like you've got everything well covered.  Your strainer oil pickup reminds me of the SOHC Cobra guy I did some engine work for a few years ago.  With the big 1150 Dominator carb there was no room for an air filter to clear the Cobra hood. 

He used an upside-down spaghetti strainer over the carb  :o
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Re: Finaly
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2016, 04:34:39 AM »
Yes The strainer got big holes in it. But this engine
is not for a daily driver.A couple of thousand miles
each summer and i change oil every spring and fall.
On all my cars
So i think they are just fine. Catching things big
enough to destroy the oilpump

WConley im trying to cover everything but many
years since i built an Engine.
This is just a backyard blueprinted PI engine with
Worked heads and a modern cam. What do you guys
guess 375 HP 425 TQ ???



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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2016, 05:36:03 AM »
Milled the windagetray


And deburred it with a handfile



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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2016, 06:36:53 AM »
Here is for you Big Blue Iron

Its just a ring that's conical on the inside. First i chucked it up in the lathe
and trued it up indicating on the outside. And machined the end flat then i machined the inside
to the cyl dia. That way you end up 100 percent in line with the cylinder then i turned it around
the other way. Pressed the flat side against the chuck indicated the inside and machined the cone
don't remember the degrees but i haven't touched the topslide since so i can check that later today
Four degrees is what i used, works fine just push with a hammer handle
You can see in the pick that i left 1/2 inch a ring with the cyl dia in the bottom easier to start the
piston in the cyl that way
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2016, 06:44:58 AM »
Not sure if you have ever run those coated pistons.
The coating will turn the oil black almost immediately.
The oil is perfectly fine it will just always be black.
Just something to keep in mind when you start running it.
I've used a couple of sets of those pistons and that's what they do. :P
My late model Mustang has black oil too. Must be a similar coating.

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2016, 08:23:30 AM »
No its my first set of coated pistons. but i suspected that



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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2016, 01:00:21 PM »
Re:  Not building an engine in a long time.

Heo - You'll be fine.  You obviously pay attention to detail and it's obvious that your mechanical aptitude is more than up for the job.  Just don't put the cam plug in the wrong way and remember to put that little gallery plug in back of the distributor hole  ::)  Any other stuff that comes up is easily answered by the fine folks here!

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2016, 03:21:25 PM »
Oh I'm not worried I'm not up to it it just take more time
And findig special tool i haven't used in 20 -30 years ::)



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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2016, 01:06:53 PM »
I got an SMS today  that my heads is ready. So i go get them
tomorrow :D



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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2016, 04:13:38 PM »
Here is for you Big Blue Iron

Its just a ring that's conical on the inside. First i chucked it up in the lathe
and trued it up indicating on the outside. And machined the end flat then i machined the inside
to the cyl dia. That way you end up 100 percent in line with the cylinder then i turned it around
the other way. Pressed the flat side against the chuck indicated the inside and machined the cone
don't remember the degrees but i haven't touched the topslide since so i can check that later today
Four degrees is what i used, works fine just push with a hammer handle
You can see in the pick that i left 1/2 inch a ring with the cyl dia in the bottom easier to start the
piston in the cyl that way


Thank you sir! Good idea about leaving 1/2" on the bottom, I hadn't thought of that.

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2016, 04:47:54 PM »
Your wellkom Glad if i was to any help



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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2016, 08:44:51 PM »
Glad to see everything is coming along nicely, finally. I like the ball bearing idea, it keeps the stud from cocking in the threads.
I'm pretty sure Ford used that hole in the pick-up because of cold weather starts and sludge build-up that was common before detergent oils became available. What I don't understand is that everybody gets riled up about an open hole in the oil pick-up, but nobody seems to care that their filters have a bypass that allows the same thing to happen to oil entering the engine. I consider that even worse because if the oil pump ties up, you'll know it quickly. If that crud gets past the filter, it will destroy the bearings and crank and you won't know anything until it's too late. That's the main reason I went with the Canton oil filter, no bypass.

What intake are you planning on using?
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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2016, 01:30:30 AM »
Yes i think that hole is for situations like that thick oil,
sludge etc. A new one is perfectly fine on a stock engine
but many just wash what they see on a old one without
taking it apart. And thats whats inside a used one.
Since im using a HV pump i want more area on the pickup
and the strainer is 5x the pickup tube i think

On this engine im using a Streetmaster that the headguy
ported and matched up with the heads



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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2016, 04:51:14 AM »



He said the runner in the head at the throat was big enough for my street engine.
So he just smothed it out and ported the pocket around the valveguide and reworked
the shortside radius and matched up the port to the bigger valves
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2016, 08:57:22 AM »
Are you running hardened valve seats in the exhaust?  Just curious. 
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2016, 09:20:33 AM »
No hardened seats. I figure that with the low milage
each year it will hold for several years. And i am a bit
sceptical about putting seats in those heads and get
enough support under the seat in one area



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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2016, 02:54:09 PM »
I would at least run lead additive.The last 3 FE's I pulled the heads on (390,428 and my 427)all were hurt bad from unleaded fuel.The 390 heads were scrapped,the CJ heads (as do most) needed 8 seats and the iron heads on my 427 were destroyed in only 17,000 miles..
I thought it would take much longer to hurt the seats but I was wrong....
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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2016, 03:12:47 PM »
I dont know if there is some difference in the fuel from
here and USA. But we dont have that big problem with
the valve seats here . Some says that there is some other
additiv but i dont know. If there is problem with the seats
i buy aluminium heads. I traded this heads for some
Cruis o matic parts, And the work on them for an old
Volvo so i dont realy have any money in them so.....



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« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2016, 03:34:06 PM »
I am in Canada...The small blocks I have done have not suffered the same fate.After finding the carnage on the 427 I pulled the heads back off my 289 and they were fine,same goes for a 351C I built 20 years ago...My experience says unleaded and FE's don't get along..I do not have a answer as to why...
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« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2016, 03:50:06 PM »
I tore down the 390 PI that I'm now rebuilding and there
was no problem with the seats or any signs of micro welding
on the valves on those heads  and i have
run this engine for 10 years
The guides was k-lined and worn out so i used this pair of
heads. And now i have stainless valves and that should help



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« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2016, 09:40:57 PM »
Yes, C4 heads do not have a lot of meat on the short side of the exhaust for hardened seats, unless a very thin seat is used and very careful machine work is done. I used standard size seats on the exhausts on my C4 heads that I ran in my '68 Highboy, for over 20 years. When first done, I was very concerned about longevity with about 1/4 of the seat having very little, if any, support; but the heads and seats still look fine and will be going on a 445 stroker I'm putting together.

I guess I'm lucky, I've never experienced a sunken seat on an FE. I only used them in my truck because I knew it would be used hard and pull heavy loads for extended periods of time. Seen plenty of small blocks have issues back in the day, but never had it happen to an FE. KNOCK ON WOOD. I use a low lead gas in my 427, so I don't expect any issues with its stock seats either.
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« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2016, 10:25:31 PM »
I have no doubt that the chemistry of fuel varies from country to country.Must be our Canadian gas as I haven't seen any good FE heads in a long time...

I have a set of CJ heads here with the hit and miss support on the(hardened) seats.They were running that way when I got them and I am reuseing them but not liking it..I kept the cam small (268H) and stayed light on the spring pressure..

The 427 gets aluminum heads this time round..
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« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2016, 09:07:02 AM »
My wife gave me an early Christmas present  today
The correct aircleaner for the PI engine with the chrome
under hood option
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« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2016, 02:27:55 PM »
That looks like a high-quality item!  How is the rest of the build coming?
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« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2016, 05:35:00 PM »
Well life happened so no progress ::)
But any day now is the planets lined up
so i can do some work on my own things

Yes the quality on the A.C is nice .From Tony
D Branda  some one on this forum sent a link
So thanks who ever that was
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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2017, 07:23:05 PM »
Some progress. Installed the timing chain and degreed the cam
today . With a Cloyes timing set i was able to get it to 106 DEG.
so the old set was of



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« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2017, 04:53:12 PM »
Made some progress today. The intake was
Uggly around the boltholes

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« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2017, 05:07:56 PM »
I made a spotfacer out of a 12mm Allen head bolt that i cut some groves in with the angle grinder
and grinded so i got a cutting angle
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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2017, 05:13:53 PM »
First i put it in the cordless drill but the
Speed was to High so the alu wanted to smear
Then i put a Allen bit in the ratchet wrench
And got a much better finish
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« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2017, 05:33:34 PM »
Then i primed the pan, heads and some other stuff with PPG Epoxi.I have a teori, Cast iron sometimes like to
sweath oil through pores and lift the paint. Since this primer is not much more than dyed epoxiglue maby it
glues the pores shut,just a theori
And gave them the black topcoat PPG D 721 Deep black leftover from when i painted my AJS 500

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« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2017, 12:01:59 AM »
Pretty slick idea on the allen head bolt, Heo. And epoxy primers do in fact do a nice job of sealing up the pores and keep the paint from lifting, but I think it is most important to make sure the iron is scrubbed/washed good to get that oil out of the pores. I used the old DP40 epoxy primer on my old 390, and it still looked very good after 20+ years, only starting to lift on the machined edges where oil could penetrate underneath. That truck was driven daily in the winter and often all year long. I could always just take a rag and wipe it down and it looked great. The paint lifting on the edges took a very long time and was fairly minor.

By the way, I'll get back to you within the next day or so about that expansion tank. I apologize for it being so long.
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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2017, 05:26:56 AM »
Yes i was inspecting the intake and saw i needed to spotface around the hole.
And had no suitable spotfacer. Then i saw this Mercedes Diesel headbolt in that
bucket with leftover bolts i bet all you guys have  ;)
 12mm so it had reasonable guide in the 1/2 inch hole 12.9 grade so its pretty hard,
 cut the alu fine.
I prime everything with DP40 Epoxy i love that primer
I boiled the block in lye. I cut the top of a 200 liter oil barrel put it on some bricks
and made a fire under it voila! redneck hot tank :D dunked the block in with the tractor
and let it boil for the rest of the day. Then i dunked the block in the river to rinse of the lye
 I round of sharp edges where its possible to get a thicker layer of paint i have found out
that paint have an tendency to creep away from sharp corners

I have been busy with so much other things so no reason to to worry about the tank
But now I'm back on track so it would be nice to have the tank
Now out in the shop and light up the wood stove and start to assemble the heads



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« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2017, 10:05:39 AM »
Well then i got a set of assembled heads



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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2017, 09:47:03 AM »

This guy have grinded the tips of the rocker arms so..... So find some one who can grind rockers nowadays....
or find a other set of  adjustabel rockers....or bite the bullet and buy roller rockers

This engine is fighting me
« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 09:57:04 AM by Heo »



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« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2017, 01:49:53 PM »
The rocker problem is solved.I was offered a set adjustabels today
got the bolts i ordered so i could bolt on the timing cover, filter
adapter and damper






The intake was to ugly to bolt on so i dropped it of a friends motorcycle shop for glassbeading


Here some engines he had in the shop at the moment






Basket case?? ;D


After some bench racing i went home and put on the oilpan so now i just need the rockers and the intake beaded 
to button up the engine

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« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2017, 02:14:10 PM »
Say Heo.....with glass beading it's critically important to super clean every crevice on that intake. Those damned things can stick everywhere and once loose, they can and will cause havoc with bearings, rings, ring lands, etc. Many shops here will not glass bead any engine parts. I'd pressure clean it 3 times and more.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/bead-blast-internal-engine-components.30598/

Next time, use crushed walnut shells as they get soft with oil and disintegrate it essentially nothing and leave via the oil filter. Not so with glass beads.   
« Last Edit: March 23, 2017, 02:17:27 PM by machoneman »
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« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2017, 02:25:11 PM »
Yes crushed glass is something you don't want to end up in
the oil.He mask of the runners and only blast the  outside
but  you need to clean it off thoroughly after

I see now like i wrote it that I'm going to beadblast the rockers
that's not the case just the intake on the outside
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« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2017, 06:25:24 PM »
Now over to the valve covers, While I'm waiting for the rockers and the intake
Since the Streetmaster have no oilfiller and no vent I cant use the stock chrome
ones and they need re chroming
So i had those cal custom covers i had since the early 80s. Funny thing i knew
where i had them but things i had five minutes ago i cant find  ::) I guess i need
to clean the garage. I told my wife i had some evil gnome in the garage that hide
my stuff. She told me to look in the mirror to find him  :o
Any way i think i mill down the fins in the middle for a  390 Fenderbadge in gold
and paint gold between the Finns



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« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2017, 10:51:45 PM »
That should look really sharp with the badges and gold paint. Can't wait to see what they turn out like. Engine is looking really good, Heo. I love the serious look of a black engine with some polished aluminum pieces.
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« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2017, 11:04:32 PM »
Quote
The rocker problem is solved.I was offered a set adjustabels today

bout time some loser got off his stash of FE stuff and spread the love.
Engine is looking great Heo.

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« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2017, 04:15:58 AM »
I apreciate the LOVE Drew :-* ;D Thank again



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« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2017, 04:18:49 AM »
Yes Doug i think that match the black and polished alu
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« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2017, 08:21:03 PM »
would you be interested in selling the chrome ones ?

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« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2017, 03:11:32 AM »
No They are the factory stock covers from
when the car was new so i want to keep them
if i will restore the car to stock



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« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2017, 05:11:55 PM »
ok  thanks , ronnie

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« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2017, 05:59:40 PM »
My intake Before and after. Blasted hotwater washed Glassbeaded and hotwater washed again
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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2017, 01:44:50 PM »
Milled down the flanges for the fender badge and
started polishing the valvecover
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« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2017, 03:19:28 PM »
Finally (sort of)the engine is ready to start. Waiting for a radiatorhose shall be here
tomorrow at lunch, prime the oil system, put back dist,plugs, and boom.... fire perhaps
Chased radiatorhoses the whole day ??? No one have those universal hoses anymore
Only one gas station left and they sell hotdogs and porn mags.  Two parts stores, first
one the guy locked at me with big stupid cow eyes when i asked for a 2 inch radiatorhose.
Noooo....Don't knooooow.....what that is.......second store the guy really tried to help me.
 He found one hose he could order,I had to build the other of straight hose and 90 degree exhaust
bends. Tried truck repair shops,Tractor repair shops no hose
Needed Shell rotella oil to break in the cam...no shell station in a 100 miles radius.
We had two Shell,one gulf,one OK.one Esso,one Nynäs stations in the past in this town all of them
had spare parts at least plugs, filters, hoses. Now if you are lucky they have wiperblades....I had to order oil :o
20 years ago i could have bought what i needed 10 a clock at night from a gas station
 this world is going down the drain :'(
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« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2017, 09:41:30 AM »
Yes the times are (and have been) changing!  :o  what, no WalMart?  That's where I've been buying my Rotella.  I doubt that my local Shell gas station has it!  Have you tried Rockauto.com?   I know they have name-brand molded rad hoses for our cars for about US$ 10.00 each but not sure how much they will ding you for shipping.  Would be easy to find out though. 
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« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2017, 12:03:57 PM »
 ;D No Wal Mart in Sweden no Rockauto and the hose is for the test bench so not same
as any car .I can get moulded hoses in Sweden for the car. And today when i was to get the hose....No hose the freight company Fucked
up and left the whole shipping on some terminal somewhere ::) so may by tomorrow ???



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« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2017, 01:15:00 PM »
Only one gas station left and they sell hotdogs and porn mags. 

Sweden is famous for porn, but not sure about the hotdogs ;D ;D

Auto parts stores are no different in the U.S. these days. Most of the people are clueless about anything that isn't "bling" related. When it comes to older cars...forget it ::)
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« Reply #64 on: July 18, 2017, 02:05:58 PM »
Actually not sure about the porn mags. May by this Feminist
government have banned them ??? So that leave them with
only hot dogs that taste.....well they have a long way to fame of any kind
I miss the old kind of  Speedshops, Dark with a dirty oil stained
hardwood desk with Catalogues on a shelf under it and a guy
behind the desk that could find parts in a Catalogue if he don't had
it on the shelf's. They had racks with radiator hoses,fanbelts,sparkplugs,spraycans
You brought your own can and bought oil by the liter cheap, Gasket material on a roll
UNF and UNC bolts  and nuts.....Only bling was a dusty rack of little trees on the desk
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« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2017, 11:11:19 AM »
Got the hose today at lunchtime primed the oilsystem
put in the dist set timing primed the floatbowls. Second compression  it fired
right up no leaks not even a hoseclamp that needed
re tightening 25 psi oilpressure hot at 600 rpm idle
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« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2017, 01:07:21 PM »
Good deal, Heo! Gotta love it when a plan comes together :)
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« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2017, 02:08:20 PM »
Installing inner springs to morrow and start installing the engine
in the car . Oil was nice and clean just a Little "gray" guess its from
the piston coating  no metall shavings in the filter



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« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2017, 12:08:30 PM »
Tried to load a video of the engine running but not working
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« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2017, 08:05:05 PM »
Nice Heo!  Engine sure looks classy and pretty  :)  Love the finned valve covers with the 390 eagles.

Keep us posted on the install!

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« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2017, 03:57:39 AM »
Pulled a wholenighter last night got the engine in car exhaust,driveshaft,fuel,
shift linkage,....then at 5.30 in the morning the gas pedal hits the streetmaster intake ::)
have to modify that ....went to bed,  Not a good idea to start to modify anything when
im that tired know by experiance that chances i have to re do it next day is big



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« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2017, 05:48:56 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2017, 07:25:58 AM »
Got the Galaxie running Last night going on vacation with it now
alt is charging ,no leaks, oilpressure, what can go wrong :P
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« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2017, 07:51:47 AM »
Good luck.
I'm sure we all know the feeling.
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« Reply #74 on: July 29, 2017, 08:47:02 AM »
Great! I'd not worry about small leaks, oil or coolant. If you can while on vacation, torque down all the easy topside bolts, hose clamps, etc. when the engine is cold.
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« Reply #75 on: July 30, 2017, 03:17:40 PM »
First leg of journey completed
400 km-248 miles completed
only misshap clogged floatvalve
when i had a few miles to the destination
and vaporlock in fuelpump on a
cruising.I had a jug of water so i
cooled the pump down and got the
car started . Checked valve adjustment today
a few needed slight tightening.
tightened all hoseclamps and exhaust manifolds.
No leaks, checked the plugs looks fine slight trace of oil
on nr two. Put on a fuel filter cleaned the carb was full
of...Mud in bottom of floatbowl
16 mpg highway driving at 60-65 mph. Discovered i had
no headlights. Some relays some previous owner put in had
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« Reply #76 on: July 30, 2017, 04:46:13 PM »
Nice to hear Heo!  Looks like you're getting that car sorted out just fine  ;D
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« Reply #77 on: July 30, 2017, 06:45:05 PM »
Congrats Heo, great to hear that your efforts are paying off! Enjoy your week in Lycksele and do not be afraid to continue another 1000 miles to the south when it's over ;D I'll be home after the 23rd if you feel like giving the ol' Gal a real road test   ;) By the way I received the video, looked and of course sounded great  :D Now you and Erica have a great vacation!
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« Reply #78 on: July 30, 2017, 07:07:48 PM »
Say Heo! With vapor lock, those stories about a fellow w/o water whipping it out and pissin' on the fuel pump are true! Ask me how I know this! LOL
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« Reply #79 on: July 30, 2017, 08:40:52 PM »
 ;D :D i bet i had been a crowdpleaser if i had Done that on the cruisenight
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« Reply #80 on: July 30, 2017, 08:48:09 PM »
I bet i jinx myself if i say that but im going all the way south Jan
Im not worried i can fix the Galaxie with stuf i find laying beside the road :D



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« Reply #81 on: July 30, 2017, 09:05:53 PM »
Yes WConley So far so good, thinking about trying
a couple of sizes bigger jets on the primarys for
the next leg and read the plugs. Have a slight hesitation
when i accelerate. Stupid me forgot my jet assortment
At home so i have to see if some one in this town sell
Holley jets or maby i need a powervalve thats open
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« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2017, 10:00:15 AM »
I have to turn home, I keep filling the fuelfilters with mud
after a few miles.  And it sucking air somewhere, must be
some problem with the tank armature. Changed the hose
from tank to fuel line, inspected the fuel line, new hose from
fuel line to pump, new pump. Still foams in the filter and sudenly
falls flat on the face of fuel starvation and filters empty
And getting worse lets see if i have to put a gas can under hood
with a hose in to it to get us home

Engine running perfect though when it gets fuel
Home and steam out the tank and repair the armature
and trye to get rid of the stumble when i hit the pedal
Its a known problem with street avengers they say



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« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2017, 08:58:57 AM »
I'm finishing up the galaxie for technical inspection . We have that biannual
on cars older than 30 years, annually on cars newer than 30. But from May
2018 50 years and older don't need that. So last one for this car :D
Dough sent me some fuses so i got the brake and backup lights working. And
had to change one turnsignal and highbeam indicator bulb, lubed the high low beam
switch got the horn working. So if i only can find the battery hold down clamp now
i should be ready for judgement ::)



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« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2017, 12:29:48 PM »
I'm glad I don't have to deal with any of that inspection crap here in Ohio! They used to have roadside inspections where they just pulled you over randomly at a check-point, but they quit that years ago. Too expensive, I think.

Battery hold-down? We call those "rubber straps"  ;D
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« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2017, 01:39:57 PM »
Mmm getting my car inspected by people i know i would outwrench
blindfolded feels like.....stupidity. Well its over  for this car now
i can modify it the way i want without demodify it before each inspection
To be honest i have not inspected my daily driver for....i think 6 years now
Each tec is 50$ the fine is 150$ so i have saved 150 so far :D



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« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2017, 09:23:51 AM »
On to the Ignition now. Pulled some strings and
collected some Ioveyouones. So i got one MSD6AL
used for two trips down the dragstrip and a NIB
Tailor Vertex coil (made in USA) for cheap
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