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The big day!
« on: May 24, 2014, 02:52:00 PM »
Continuing from this thread  http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=579.0 with the installation of the 458 stroker Blair built.

I had planned on staying after work to start the swap but I was feeling pretty puny by the end of my shift (at 11:30 PM) so I went for a night's sleep instead.  Made it back up to the shop around 9 this morning and worked on plumbing while the car cooled off.   I got a little "before" video to capture the sound and responsiveness of the long rod 390.



and some still photos



I still hadn't worked out the details on the fuel system but it wasn't hard to see that with the hoses I'm using, the traditional fuel log wasn't going to work.  After a bit of head scratching I came up with this little guy...


I'll cut the fuel pump to fuel block hose to length after I have the AC and power steering pumps mounted.  I'll also come up with a mounting bracket after everything is situated.

After cooling a bit and letting the water out of the radiator, I brought the car in and got the hood off so it can cool some more.  Hate working on a hot engine!!  Here's my one-man hood technique.  I think most people would be surprised at how thin the 65 Galaxie sheet metal really is. 
Protect the windshield and prop the hood up...

 
take out the forward bolts, then the rear bolts and let it slide back to the windshield.  careful careful...


Take out the prop and lay the hood down...


Then put it on a cart and roll it to a safe place!


Pizza break is over, back to work now!

-Wade

458" Blair Partick stroker/TKO 600 .64 OD/3.89 gears

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2014, 02:55:36 PM »
Wish my garage looked like that. ;D
We have similar one man hood technique.
Congrats on the engine. That thing is freakin' awesome.
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Re: The big day!
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 03:37:59 PM »
Let the fun begin.....I see a OMAX water jet sitting in the shop...great for making parts on when the chiefs aren't watching......Cory
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Re: The big day!
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2014, 09:06:55 PM »
Let the fun begin.....I see a OMAX water jet sitting in the shop...great for making parts on when the chiefs aren't watching......Cory

Yep! How about a nice heavy duty alternator bracket...


Next waterjet project will probably be a throttle cable bracket.  I'll have to figure that one out once the engine is in place.

Continuing on, I got the car up on jackstands so I can get under it and so it doesn't move around when the engine weight goes on and off of it.



and proceeded to take a whole bunch of pieces off...


Wire + can = awesome  in case you didn't already know...



You know what they say, if you're not careful you'll learn something new every day.
Today I learned that taking the engine out of a Galaxie with a manual transmission is WAY more work than taking it out of a Galaxie with an automatic.

After many trips around and under the car I found my major pain in the rear. Bellhousing won't clear the drag link.  I ended up pulling the idler so the link could come down a bit but still had problems with the starter and clutch fork.



I ended up taking the starter out and the bellhousing off the engine.  Would have been a bit easier to do that in the first place.  Learning...

Finally did get it out of there.  How high ya want it? Everybody should have a forklift for this.  Nice that some stuff does go well on a project, haha.


Best worklight ever IMO.  Gotta love some daylight under the car and almost no heat.


There they are, Robert and Bobby.  Bobby's the outgoing one.  Er, incomming.  Just kidding, they don't have names ;)


Guess breaktime's over again...

-Wade

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2014, 09:47:15 PM »
Hey Wade,

Here's motivation for you....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhBYPMTNfA

Pics attached below.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2014, 10:29:09 PM by JohnN-1BADFE »
67 Fairlane GT - 390/451 stroker - 654HP / 552TQ

67 Fairlane S/W - 390/458 stroker with tri-power - 515HP / 595TQ

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2014, 01:41:49 AM »
I'm pretty motivated already John, but I'm not complaining =)

Really nice stuff there!  LOVE the headers. MAN!

Hey, is that an air conditioning hose I see tucked in amongst the heater hoses?  If it is, can I see some pics of your AC system? Pump mounting in particular
-Wade

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2014, 11:15:31 AM »
John in your signature:

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67 Fairlane GT - 390/451 stroker - 654HP / 552TQ
You need to start a thread on THAT!  I'm curious how that got put together.

Thanks!

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2014, 11:40:03 AM »
I'Hey, is that an air conditioning hose I see tucked in amongst the heater hoses?  If it is, can I see some pics of your AC system? Pump mounting in particular

It's an aftermarket air conditioning system.  My wagon was a non-air car, but since it's just a cruiser, I did a Vintage air kit.  Not sure my my AC pump mounting is going to help you. Mine is mounted on the bottom on the passenger side.
67 Fairlane GT - 390/451 stroker - 654HP / 552TQ

67 Fairlane S/W - 390/458 stroker with tri-power - 515HP / 595TQ

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2014, 11:41:31 AM »
John in your signature:
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67 Fairlane GT - 390/451 stroker - 654HP / 552TQ
You need to start a thread on THAT!  I'm curious how that got put together.
Thanks!

Don't want to steal from Wade's thread, but you can see the details here-
http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1310786368/DYNO+RESULTS++-+390+stroker
67 Fairlane GT - 390/451 stroker - 654HP / 552TQ

67 Fairlane S/W - 390/458 stroker with tri-power - 515HP / 595TQ

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2014, 01:35:47 PM »
It's an aftermarket air conditioning system.  My wagon was a non-air car, but since it's just a cruiser, I did a Vintage air kit.  Not sure my my AC pump mounting is going to help you. Mine is mounted on the bottom on the passenger side.

That's what I was thinking.  I don't really care for they way the old setup looks, would rather have the compressor down low and out of sight.  I'd need some hoses and a  Sanden compressor for sure. 



Slow going today. I surfaced the flywheel last night.  On the milling machine since I didn't have any handy fixturing to chuck it up on the lathe.

Cleaned up at .012" depth


After putting a hole in the block plate to accommodate an oil gallery plug I got the flywheel mounted and dialed in the bell housing. .010 out, UGH!!
 With no pin puller handy they easy way out was a bit different... as usual, lol

I made a spacer ring with .010 offset between the inner and outer diameters to replace the stock one that came with the transmission.


Got the bell dialed in within .003 total runout now.  That's about half what I had before.  I'm calling it good!
-Wade

458" Blair Partick stroker/TKO 600 .64 OD/3.89 gears

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2014, 04:17:31 PM »
Wow, that's a lot of screwing around for 7 thousandths!  Nice work though; so nice to have CNC handy...  ;D
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Re: The big day!
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2014, 04:37:19 PM »
Wow, that's a lot of screwing around for 7 thousandths!  Nice work though; so nice to have CNC handy...  ;D

Nah, it's not really too bad.  Only took me maybe 45 minutes to program, setup and run it.   Pulling the dowel pins out of the block would have been more work for me with the tools I have around.   The TKO install instructions allowed I think .005 misalignment and at .020 TIR I had to fix it.   ...actually more than .007".  It went from .020 to .003 TIR so it's only .0015 misalignment now.  In theory right?  No telling how much stuff warps when it's all torqued down, now well it repeats when taken apart and put back together etc.  Should run alright though I guess  ;)



So far I've got the bell housing mounted on the tranny with the offset spacer, got the clutch and pressure plate mounted on the flywheel and I cleaned up the headers and repainted them.  Dang, I wish I still had access to a working sandblaster.  Best I could do quickly was going over them with a scotchbrite pad.

This Rust-oleum seems to be some kind of good stuff at least up top where it never gets wet.  Had some more rusty stuff down at the collectors.  These headers have been on nearly three years I think.  This is the first time I've messed with the paint on them since they went in.


Also had to do a little port work or gasket matching to do on the headers.  You can see how close the header flange would be to blowing out if I took it all the way to the line. I couldn't nearly go as far as I needed but I took what I could while keeping in mind I need some gasket sealing surface left and the tube to flange welds are at the sealing surface.   I actually did get through the weld on one tube but it looked like it was just butted up in place and never properly welded anyway.  I am really hoping my gasket + some copper RTV will keep the leaks to a minimum.  Wishful thinking probably...


New custom headers will go on the future upgrade list.  I'll get to that after my wounded wallet recovers from the beating it's taken lately!  $500 for new glasses and nearly $2000 to have the clutch replaced in my sons HHR, ouchies.  Sounds like my air conditioner pump is on it's way out too and Summer is coming up fast.


« Last Edit: May 25, 2014, 04:41:06 PM by 65er »
-Wade

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2014, 06:06:18 PM »
Skip the gaskets on the headers and use  silicone only
I have no leaks since i stoped using gaskets



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Re: The big day!
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2014, 08:11:02 PM »
I would be tempted but I think I need the gasket to help hold the silicone in place and maybe bridge a little gap here and there.  The exhaust ports are size extra large. Intended for custom headers, I'm sure.  Kind of hard getting a good pic with the camera all upside-down and stuff..


Oh hey, it's stuffed and mounted now!  I just need to hook up... everything. haha


Sure hope I'll be able to close the hood.  I measured everything pretty careful and it looked like it's going to be ok.
-Wade

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Re: The big day!
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2014, 09:02:43 PM »
Looking good, Wade.  If the hood won't close - well, you needed a hood scoop anyway  ;D
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC