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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1380 on: May 21, 2016, 02:16:43 PM »
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1381 on: May 21, 2016, 04:34:17 PM »
Alright!  Its in there.  I assume the oil pan fit OK?
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« Reply #1382 on: May 21, 2016, 04:46:49 PM »
Lol  I had my doubts lowering it down, but it looks like it was made for that cross member.  Lol  fits great!

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« Reply #1383 on: May 21, 2016, 08:37:13 PM »
Good to hear ;D

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« Reply #1384 on: May 21, 2016, 10:20:28 PM »
Jason, my Shelby shop manual lists 40-50 lbft torque for V-8 engines for the flywheel housing/bellhousing to cylinder block.  Joe-JDC
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« Reply #1385 on: May 21, 2016, 11:38:55 PM »
Just thinking of any more potential issues here, but I can't remember if I put a plug in the rear vacuum port of the intake manifold when I was done on the dyno.  While it was on the dyno I had that connected to the vacuum line from the dyno, so just check to make sure that when I pulled that fitting I put a plug back in the hole.  I'd hate to have you have the same problem there as last time...
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1386 on: May 22, 2016, 12:24:22 PM »
Hey Jay.  You did plug it.  I want to swap it out for a plug with a hose barb for the vacuum assist brakes. 
Well, today left me sore.  I got the car back on the tall 12 ton jack stands, and wanted to get the transmission installed.  Before I began, I remembered that I had tried a few months ago to swap out a hydraulic line while the tranny was still mounted.  I was able to do it, and with no leaks, but it bothered me not having been able to put the white tefalon tape on.  So, just for piece of mind, i pulled the pressure line and the bleeder line, wrapped the fittings with tape, and tightened them back down. 
After that, I hung the aluminum spacer on the bell housing, and reinstalled the tranny.  In real life, it took me 2 hours to get it to slide in, but in it went.  I put brand new lock washers on all 8 trans mounting bolts, and started hand tightening them one at a time.  I got the 4 easy ones, but still have 4 more to install before I torque them down to 35 ft lbs.  Even though I didnt get all the bolts torqued down, at lease the transmission is reinstalled and off the pallet.  Hoping to get last 4 bolts torqued down tomorrow night and will also be installing the drive shaft too.  Working on 1 project per night going forward.

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1387 on: May 22, 2016, 09:51:53 PM »
Jason, my Shelby shop manual lists 40-50 lbft torque for V-8 engines for the flywheel housing/bellhousing to cylinder block.  Joe-JDC

Thanks Joe!
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1388 on: May 27, 2016, 08:32:51 AM »
Hey All.  Small issue, but I guess its good to ask now while the asking is good.  When I took the car for its maiden voyage last year (before pulling the engine and sending it to Jay), my trip was to the Gas station to fill the tank with 93 Octane.  When I got home and it was clear that the engine needed to be pulled, I put a bottle of Stabil fuel stabilizer in the tank.  I did this because I wasn't sure how long I would have the engine out and I didn't want the fuel to go bad (Not easy to pull the tank on this car).  My question is.....  before I hook the fuel lines and such back up in a week or 2......  Do you think the fuel is still good?  I filled the tank and added the fuel stabilizer in September (about) of last year.  Its been about 9 months?

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1389 on: May 27, 2016, 08:42:36 AM »
It's probably good enough to burn, but it sure isn't 93 octane anymore. I'd add a can of seafoam and 5 gallons of fresh high octane has depending on room in the tank.
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1390 on: May 27, 2016, 09:03:57 AM »
The only thing I'd be concerned about is how the self-learning EFI system will react once you get new fuel in there.  It may have to learn some more at that point  ;D, which may keep you from having the tune dialed in for a little longer.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1391 on: May 27, 2016, 02:45:00 PM »
I'd run it, you'll go through it so quickly it won't matter ;)

I would say though, after you get a tank through it, change the filter, can't hurt and if anything varnished it'll likely be there
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1392 on: May 27, 2016, 02:56:50 PM »
Thanks Guys.  I honestly am trying to go super slow and cautious at this point.  Better Safe than sorry...... Don't want to screw up any of Jays beautiful craftsmanship! ;)
Jason
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1393 on: May 27, 2016, 04:53:20 PM »
Change it. Period.
I deal almost every day with issues from equipment that has sat for periods of 3-6 months, and it's a pain in my butt. 99% of the time, they won't start. I'll flush the gas out, add new and that generally solves the problem. I'm not talking about cars, but a gas engine is a gas engine, and if a small engine won't even fire on 4 month old gas, well, what does that tell you about the gas? Todays fuel is junk, even the small equipment dealer I deal with says that 90% of the problems they see are from todays fuels. Their recommendation is if it is going to sit for more than a month, drain the gas. They even quit recommending stabilizer products because they just didn't work good enough.

In the past 10 years, my personal small equipment has never failed to start in the spring time. This year NOTHING would even fire. I changed out the gas and everything fired right up. Personally, I think the fuel has gotten even worse recently, and I only live 15 miles from a refinery!

Your car will likely run on it, but why use it when it's degraded? Pull it out, mix it with a little fresh and use it in your lawnmower or whatever else you have.

This is just what I would do if it were my car, which it's not ;)
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #1394 on: May 27, 2016, 08:39:07 PM »
Change it. Period.
I deal almost every day with issues from equipment that has sat for periods of 3-6 months, and it's a pain in my butt. 99% of the time, they won't start. I'll flush the gas out, add new and that generally solves the problem. I'm not talking about cars, but a gas engine is a gas engine, and if a small engine won't even fire on 4 month old gas, well, what does that tell you about the gas? Todays fuel is junk, even the small equipment dealer I deal with says that 90% of the problems they see are from todays fuels. Their recommendation is if it is going to sit for more than a month, drain the gas. They even quit recommending stabilizer products because they just didn't work good enough.

In the past 10 years, my personal small equipment has never failed to start in the spring time. This year NOTHING would even fire. I changed out the gas and everything fired right up. Personally, I think the fuel has gotten even worse recently, and I only live 15 miles from a refinery!

Your car will likely run on it, but why use it when it's degraded? Pull it out, mix it with a little fresh and use it in your lawnmower or whatever else you have.

This is just what I would do if it were my car, which it's not ;)

Certainly good concervative advice and will only cost a few dollars.  That being said I haven't been bit yet, at least not in the 6-12 month timeframe, I have seen some sick stuff come out of tanks in more extreme timelines.  Maybe it's coming, the Mustang is still bagged up in storage, I hope not!
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- 71 F100 shortbed 4x4, 461 cid FE, headers, Victor Pro-flo EFI, Comp Custom HFT cam, 3.50 9 inch