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Royce

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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2024, 09:34:36 AM »
Make a saddle that lives in the block valley for the second cam.  drive it off the regular cam.. A guy who designs heads and intake from scratch could handle that!
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2024, 11:17:19 AM »
It would be nice if it was that easy.  But the head bolts are in different positions, and there are tabs on the Calliope block where the inside and outside head bolts go.  Plus there are no water jacket holes in the Calliope block.  I might be able to take a standard block and mock it up with the heads, but I don't think you could run it...
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2024, 02:15:17 PM »
The Calliope was pretty much a "clean sheet" deal, lots of lessons learned from older designs. If only...
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2024, 03:24:24 AM »
Where there is a will there is a way ! Check the videos of the Aardema V12 . Welding tabs an aluminum 460 block would easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP5213NlQog

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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2024, 10:44:34 AM »
I am with Tom on this one...  Maybe obtain an un-machined Ford Motorsports 460 block?
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1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
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1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2024, 11:22:19 PM »
There is a place here in Metro Detroit that has the ability and willingness to create any sort of billet block you might want. They're a bit pricey but with enough money, anything is possible. (How about 385 blocks and heads with five inch bore centers and machined-in external water jackets. A 4.675 bore requires a 3.6 stroke to produce 494 CID.) ;)

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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2024, 05:33:00 PM »
   Jay, on one of several visits to my (late) friend Rick Kirk's place in Oklahoma (mid-late '80s) he related to me that he was once literally minutes away from acquiring one of the Calliope engines from one of his well connected Ford contacts.  According to Rick the gentleman got cold feet at the last minute but Rick did leave with a collection of Calliope engineering drawings, which he showed me.
   My hat is off to you guys for what you are doing - too bad Rick is no longer with us to help you in your efforts.   Randy M
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2024, 07:22:10 PM »
Found a FB link about the Calliope. Hope this opens.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1597674397277203/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=2056882364689735

Jay, perhaps you could contact this fellow. Who knows, he may have spare parts or more.

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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2024, 10:47:06 PM »
Quote from: machoneman on January 09, 2024, 07:22:10 PM
Found a FB link about the Calliope. Hope this opens.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1597674397277203/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=2056882364689735

Jay, perhaps you could contact this fellow. Who knows, he may have spare parts or more.

The person who originally posted that - Dan Schoneck - is who acquired the tooling and is doing the project

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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2024, 10:07:18 AM »
Ah, didn't know that!
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2024, 05:07:03 PM »
Quite cool Jay

As if you don't have enough ingots in the fire, lol.
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2024, 11:17:15 PM »
Very cool, Jay!
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2024, 03:16:05 PM »
Very cool to get to see that engine in person.
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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2024, 03:59:41 PM »
Nice article in Hot Rod about the Calliope project.  We are currently waiting for a slot to open up at the foundry so we can cast the heads.  3D printed water jacket cores are done...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/experimental-ford-lemans-v8-calliope-big-block-discovered/
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: Calliope Engine Project
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2024, 04:27:58 PM »
Quote from: jayb on February 23, 2024, 03:59:41 PM
Nice article in Hot Rod about the Calliope project.  We are currently waiting for a slot to open up at the foundry so we can cast the heads.  3D printed water jacket cores are done...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/experimental-ford-lemans-v8-calliope-big-block-discovered/

Cool article, and some nice rarely seen Calliope pictures. Too bad Motortrend made the common mistake of mis-identifying the early Boss 429 engine by calling it a 427 SOHC, in the bottom right of their own Hot Rod magazine cover photo. It sure would be nice if these media outlets would ask someone to proofread their stuff  ;)
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