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fryedaddy

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worried to death
« on: October 13, 2022, 11:58:57 AM »
i got my papaws old 73 f250 running a month or two ago after it sat for 10-15 years.80,000 miles on it.heres whats worrying me.my oil pressure has been half way or better on the stock guage ever since i got it running.this morning i drove it and about a mile from my house i noticed my oil pressure gauge was reading about 1/4 instead of 1/2 and buy the time i got home it dropped to barely reading1/8.it dont smoke or peck.what could have happened.
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2022, 12:20:15 PM »
it was gummed up around the valves and rockers before i cleaned it up and changed oil.could my filter be partially clogged
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2022, 12:49:18 PM »
There is a valve in the oil filter that will bypass the filter if there is a pressure differential of around 10PSI.  When the oil is cold and thick, it won't pass easily through the filter media and the bypass opens to make sure the engine is being lubricated.  When the filter is clogged, the bypass opens.  This sends oil directly from the annular holes straight up the big tube in the center and into the engine.  The bypass also opens when you are running higher rpm where the oil flow is highest.  I know, the oil is not being filtered.  But the engine is getting oil and that is the most important thing.

The oil pressure occurs as a function of resistance to the flow.  If you had full oil flow going to the filter, then the filter isn't going to be where an oil pressure problem occurs.  Again, it will always go into bypass is there is a flow problem.  But you could have nasty stuff blocking your oil pickup and that for sure will give you some oil pressure problems.  Otherwise, if all the engine parts are in tact, oil pressure lost in the engine is usually going past the cam bearings.  But other things can happen, like the engine puking a lifter or popping out a gallery plug.  You first need to confirm what your true oil pressure is with a mechanical gauge. 

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Re: worried to death
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2022, 12:59:04 PM »
it happened all the sudden.it was fine yesterday
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2022, 01:25:51 PM »
Check the connection on the sending unit.

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2022, 02:02:03 PM »
i just changed the oil and filter a few minutes ago.oil was thin where i had added mystery oil to it when i got it running.i put about 100 miles on it.good oil pressure the whole time till today.after i changed the oil the pressure came up a little but nowhere near half way where it was.
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2022, 02:41:33 PM »
can the sending unit go bad partially, or do they go bad at all or all at once.the oil i drained out had a lot of chunks in it where it had gummed up from setting over the years.could the hole in the sending unit have some junk stopping it up causing a low reading
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2022, 05:34:33 PM »
Sorry, but chunks mean pull the pan and check the pump & pickup screen as both could be packed with crud.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2022, 06:15:23 PM »
i didn,t mean big chunks,more like grains,very small and only a few, maybe 10 or 15,but a couple of them were as big as the hole in the sending unit,about half the size of a bb.im going to try another sending unit.motor sounds good no noises
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2022, 08:50:36 PM »
Go ahead and buy a cheap mechanical gage, hook it up, set it on the fender and fire it up.  If it reads low after warm up then you know something is wrong.  I know it's a PITA to pull the pan but a new pump and cleaned pickup could yield many more miles cheap.

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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2022, 10:49:31 AM »
YEE HAA,i fired it up this morning and almost no oil pressure,i slapped a new sending unit on it and cleaned the connection with a qtip and fired it back up and i looked down at the gauge after pausing a few seconds and the needle was 2/3 the way over,highest its ever been.that goes to show you if your pressure is reading low on the stock gauge of a 60s-70s car truck it may just be the sending unit instead of well you know.
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2022, 01:48:26 PM »
Great news. I'd still change the oil and filter quite soon, say 100 miles of so, to ensure any hard stuff or gooey crap is removed. During those miles, fresh oil in the engine now will scour a lot of crud off the interior surfaces. That's good but....

Look at it this way. Oil and a filter are cheap compared to a teardown.
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2022, 02:00:09 PM »
I'd and a quart of Rislone and change it out after a couple hundred miles, and then maybe half a quart for the next 500 miles or so. Always works for me.
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2022, 10:29:20 PM »
great advice,i will do that.i have put a little over 100 miles on it and i changed the oil 2 times already.its getting cleaner every time.i will stick with it and keep it changed more regular than normal for a while. thanks
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Re: worried to death
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2022, 10:32:36 AM »
                                                                                                                                                                 it sounds like you have something nice to remember your dad by  WHY take a chance damage/hurting  the engine-- you need to pull the valve covers and make sure valve stem seals are good -many times    going bad and pieces end up in the oil pan - then in oil pump-it STOPS and you WILL have engine to               rebuild-or worse!!  PULL the pan -clean- make sure you have a full screen on the pickup to keep junk    out - same as old plastic cam gear -will not be good for oil pump     do what you should!! also watch                 for junk plugging up rocker assy.     with good oil another 80++ miles is easy but you need to do the right things----------old iron   
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