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octane.music

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352 - Upgrades etc...
« on: January 18, 2019, 03:27:49 PM »
OK guys, please bear with me! Trying to learn. :)

Following on from my previous 'boost' question - I'm buying a car with a 352 in it. I'm intending to pull it, get it bored to 390 and add a stroker kit, top end kit etc...with the potential to add a blower in the future.

I've got a few months before I actually get the car (I'm in the UK, car is still in America at the mo), so I've got time to think / plan / get a shopping list together and plan it all. The car I'm led to believe has a 9" with LSD (not that it matter as the moment, this is purely an engine-related question / post).

I'm hoping to get help from you knowledgeable people! Is this a viable option? It seems to me that there's a small amount of stuff available for a 352 so it looks like a natural progression. If so, what do people recommend (as in actual parts)? I've been looking for an Edelbrock 7105 intake for instance, seems the right option. There's a lot of stoker kit choice, also top end kits... Additionally, and I do apologise for my ignorance, if I'm going to send the block away for getting bored out, what diameter should I go to and what else should I be considering? (Again, not trans / chassis, that will also be in hand in the future).

If nothing else, what setup have you got and what sort of power are you getting?

Thanks!

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Re: 352 - Upgrades etc...
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2019, 03:38:45 PM »
Jay Brown built a stroked 390 (445)  a few years back
In HotRod Magazine. About  500 hp 500 lbs/ft N/A
Unfortunately I cant see it anymore due to some stupid
EU dataprotection mumbo jumbo. I guess its the same for you
living in GB
« Last Edit: January 18, 2019, 03:42:25 PM by Heo »



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Re: 352 - Upgrades etc...
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2019, 03:42:22 PM »
If you're going to possibly put a blower on the motor in the future, it has fairly significant impacts on what you'd want to do with the longblock build. 

Compression ratio, compression height, ring gaps, cam design, valve springs, possibly head design (more emphasis on exhaust port)....all impacted if you go forced induction. 

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Re: 352 - Upgrades etc...
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2019, 03:48:45 PM »
If you're going to possibly put a blower on the motor in the future, it has fairly significant impacts on what you'd want to do with the longblock build. 

Compression ratio, compression height, ring gaps, cam design, valve springs, possibly head design (more emphasis on exhaust port)....all impacted if you go forced induction.

That's kinda why I'm asking. What should I be looking for in the case of future boost? Shouldn't I just buy what I'd use for a blown motor, and run it N/A or will that have a negative impact on N/A running?

Jay Brown built a stroked 390 (445)  a few years back
In HotRod Magazine. About  500 hp 500 lbs/ft N/A
Unfortunately I cant see it anymore due to some stupid
EU dataprotection mumbo jumbo. I guess its the same for you
living in GB

Sounds impressive. I've seen a couple of video on YouTube of decent builds. Thanks.

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Re: 352 - Upgrades etc...
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2019, 04:04:32 PM »
I myself bought one of those kits. I have the block
at the machine shop but he is  "retired". So he only
works on it when he feel for it. But nothing else to do
than Wait when you live in a one horse town and need
a machineshop with plates for a FE. I visited my block
a few weeks before Christmas and then it was in
the honing machine honed with the coarser stones
so he just have the fine honing left to do. So i hope
to get it soon

You ask for different set ups and power my current set up
is a 390+.060, Comp cam 282S, streetmaster intake, flat top
pistons, Ported C4-G heads, shorty castiron headers,recurved
Duraspark, People in here say about 415 hp 415 lbs/ft
« Last Edit: January 18, 2019, 04:23:12 PM by Heo »



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Re: 352 - Upgrades etc...
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2019, 02:43:40 AM »
I'm far from an expert but from personal experience a build set up for forced induction and run NA won't be that much fun until the blower goes on. I'd run the 352 that's in the car and wait until I could do the build with the blower/turbo. Otherwise you'll have a forged low compression short block that's kinda lazy until you put the blower on later. Although it depends on a lot of other factors like what fuel you are going to run. If you have E85 or 100+ octane then you could get away with a 9+ to 1 blower build up. Otherwise you'd probably want to be in the low 8's for blower and pump gas.

Not sure what you're commonly available gas is in GB?

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Re: 352 - Upgrades etc...
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2019, 11:47:36 AM »
A stock engine build at 9.0:1 compression will run fine on the street, and still be capable of accepting up to, and around 8 PSI boost without too many electronic controls.  I have built several engines with 9.0:1-9.2:1 and installed blowers with zero issues, and they still perform very well when not under boost.  It is only when you want more boost that you need to consider lowering the static compression ratio, and timing controls that automatically decrease timing with boost, and reference fuel pressure to keep up with the boost.  Personally, I would not even consider adding a turbo to a stock 352 until it has been totally prepared for the upgrade.  Just asking for a few miles of fun, and then tragedy.  I have a complete blower set-up from a new car build where the owner added a new Pro Charger, intercooler, and upgraded fuel pump, lines, injectors, chip, and he simply refused to change the spark plugs on the new engine.  The instructions had a WARNING not to use copper core plugs, and he threw a rod out the side of the block within 7 miles of the shop on test drive.  Turbos, blowers, can be thrilling, but they can have a very expensive learning curve to get them to perform as expected.  Joe-JDC
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