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Flat Plane Crank
« on: August 10, 2015, 10:12:02 PM »
Ford's new voodoo engine has me thinking, how possible would it be to put a flat plane crank in a FE? I know the problem with flat plane crank V8's is higher vibrations. A heavy flywheel might help with that but... how possible would this be? How much do you guys think a flat plane crank would improve a FE's power? It's a crazy thought I had and well, I can't be the only one interested in where this rabbit hole goes.
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Re: Flat Plane Crank
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 11:25:42 PM »
 You can have anything made from one the various crank manufacturers. You will need a camshaft to go along with it.  So realistically starting with an unmilled steel billet will be the most available.  Crank weight and exhaust system(collector size mainly) are the 2 areas that will gain from a flat crank.

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Re: Flat Plane Crank
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2015, 12:37:46 AM »
Sure you can put a 180 crank in a FE.  The primary benefit is more efficient utilization of exhaust pulses for scavenging.  One can argue there is also a small benefit on the intake side.

It sure would sound cool, especially in a SOHC!  You might find your girl more eager to go for a ride as well ;-)
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Re: Flat Plane Crank
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2015, 06:09:56 AM »
Good read here:  http://jalopnik.com/what-is-a-flat-plane-crank-and-why-is-it-so-loud-an-ex-1659688239

As stated, Ferrari does so in all their street cars. F-1 engines almost always do, at least in today's competition, as well. I do remember some very early Chevy Pro Stock teams experimented with flat plane crank but don't remember if it was banned or the results were inconclusive. More likely the latter since hp wise, the crank really doesn't add much hp except as Bill noted through better scavenging. F-1 engines are a whole different matter with those crazy rpm levels.

True though an FE would sound very bad ass with one! 
« Last Edit: August 11, 2015, 06:12:35 AM by machoneman »
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Re: Flat Plane Crank
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2015, 09:02:21 AM »
I knew about better exhaust scavenging due to even pulses, that's why I could see slightly better horsepower, probably torque as well. The even firing would keep the engine from rocking side to side but there are more second order vibrations I believe. Using a relatively heavy flywheel, something designed for a regular FE, could do the trick. The whole reason you have a flywheel is to smooth out the power delivery. The lighter crank would help with high rpm stability as well. You have to have a brand new crank made it seems these days for the FE anyways and yes, cams would need to be done as well.

I'm not sure if it would be right to get rid of the American burble from a SOHC though. There is something about the way our engines sound. And I've seen headers where they cross two primaries to even out the pulses, so if that was my only reason there is a cheaper way to pull it off. But that gets rid of that rumble sound.
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Re: Flat Plane Crank
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2015, 09:23:42 AM »
Here is a flat plane LSx... very different sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIxngbwE8jg
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