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mikeolsen609

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Finding Parts
« on: December 14, 2014, 12:43:45 PM »
I have a 1962 Thunderbird with a different motor in it. The stamp block is C6ME-A. How do I know what parts I need? Any information would be great. This is my first classic car I've owned or worked on.

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Re: Finding Parts
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 01:49:19 PM »
Welcome. What kind of parts? Good Question.
I say full tilt boogie. That can get expensive though.
Your block is a mid 60's and later, the date code is at the filter pad looking up.
Need to know the bore and stroke to know the size.

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Re: Finding Parts
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 05:23:37 PM »
Right now I'm currently looking for a set of pulleys that I can swap out. I need one for the crank and the water pump. The alternator that I just picked up already had one so I'm good there. Any suggestions where I can find a set with out spending a boat load of $$.

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Re: Finding Parts
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 05:47:44 PM »
Stock steel pulleys? How many grooves do you need on the water pump pulley and how many on the crank pulley? Does it have power steering or air conditioning or do you intend to add them later? There is usually a casting number on the harmonic balancer but it may be on the back side, can you take a picture? Early balancers often had a pulley cast into them, that's probably what your T-bird had originally. If the vehicle needed more grooves a different pulley was usually bolted over it or added to it. Later harmonic balancers usually had a bolt on pulley. Are you looking to eventually restore the car to original or just make it a driver?
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Re: Finding Parts
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 08:38:14 AM »
Welcome Mike! Are you talking about a set of blinged out billet aluminum pulleys? Maybe a serpentine arrangement? March makes some nice ones but be prepared to pony up. I'm thinking about taking my stock pulleys and having them powder coated a faux chrome.  8)
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Re: Finding Parts
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 07:35:45 PM »
For the water pump pulley Ill need 3 grooves. One for each alt, pwr steer, a/c. and with this motor that is in it since its not the original. im gonna just get it going so i can play with it for the most part. The original motor i have to track down and that one Im gonna keep stock for the most part to make it original.

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Re: Finding Parts
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 07:38:46 PM »
And I would love to do a serpentine belt conversion. but then i have to stick an electric fan on and that wouldn't work out too well if i ended up getting my hands on the original motor. so for right now just trying to do what I can. I'm also trying to find out if this is a true 390 why I have a 2 bbl carb on there. That's still puzzling me a bit because some people say its normal and some say its a bit too small. So idk I'm not too sure.

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Re: Finding Parts
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2014, 08:58:03 PM »
You asked a lot of good, but tough questions...

Unfortunately it's not possible to tell exactly what engine it is by the block casting number. Like Scotia said, you need to check the bore & stroke and even that isn't a guarantee since someone in the past may have overbored the block and changed the crank. A C6ME-A could easily be a 352, 390, 410 or 428. If it has a "scratch" mark on the back of the block in the bell-housing area like "A" it could be a 428 and that's like hitting the lottery! Many 352 and 390's came with 2bbl carbs, both cars and trucks so that doesn't rule them out. The carb should have a tag attached or I.D number stamped in the base of the carb near the drivers side front. If you post the number we may be able to I.D. the carb. But as far as getting basic parts from the auto parts store most things will interchange between the various FE's. Knowing the model year can help for some things like sensors, etc., so as was advised look for a date code under the oil filter adapter.

As far as pulleys, there are literally thousands of possibilities and you'll have to play engineer a bit to figure out what you'll need. I'll say right up front I think the easiest and cheapest thing would be to get a whole set from a '70's pickup truck FE. That would also include the harmonic balancer and pointer and the alternator brackets. Do you have salvage yards nearby with older cars and trucks? You may want to advertise here and on the other FE forum. Buying a cheap 360/390 off Craigslist and raiding the parts you need is another possibility.

This is tough because there were a lot of changes over the years. Older vehicles were less likely to have power steering and A/C so it's harder to find original multi-groove pulleys. They became more common as we entered the '70's. Many pulleys had multiple uses and if one of those uses was on a muscle car like a 428 CJ or 427 SOHC the value of the pulley skyrockets. Many pulleys will interchange between different engine families, more so with the waterpump pulleys. You can look at 240 6cyl. and S.B. Ford waterpump pulleys also. 429/460 waterpump pulleys use a larger centering hole. Ford made a change in the bolt pattern of the FE crank pulley in 1968 I believe, slightly wider spacing. That's why I suggested above if you go with a '70's truck set-up to get the balancer and pointer also. And know that the balancers and pointers often times go together, so double check whatever you have ( even the current set-up ) that zero on the balancer is actually TDC. Many pulleys had an I.D. number stamped in them, but some had a ink stamp, now long gone, or no I.D. at all. If it has an I.D we may be able to look it up in the Ford parts book, but again, not all I.D.'s are listed. And then you also need to check the size fit. There are large diameter waterpump pulleys that will not clear a large crank pulley. You will also need to check that everything lines up for the belts, although some of that can be solved with spacers behind the waterpump pulley or changing the alternator spacer, etc. And finally know that the Ford engineers spent a lot of effort matching the size of the pulleys to the speed they wanted to turn the accessory ( like waterpump, alternator etc. ) I wouldn't worry too much about it just to get the car running, but later you may want to refine what you have. I hope this doesn't scare you off, it's all solvable, but not as easy as it was years ago when salvage yards were full of these cars. Don't be afraid to keep asking questions, we'll try the best we can to answer. Also let us know where you live, a fellow forum member may live nearby with what you need.

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Kevin Rolph

1967 Cougar Drag Car ( under constuction )
1966 7 litre Galaxie
1966 Country Squire 390
1966 Cyclone GT 390
1968 Torino GT 390
1972 Gran Torino wagon
1978 Lincoln Mk V