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PRI Show
« on: December 11, 2014, 09:45:13 PM »
Kevin R (thatdarncat) and I spent Wednesday night and Thursday morning driving from Minneapolis to Indianapolis to attend this year's PRI show.  I made an arrangement earlier to kind of share part of Barry R's booth, so he is displaying my intake adapters, timing covers, and timing chains at his booth this year.  Kevin and I arrived around 1:00 PM, fought through the downtown traffic to finally find a parking garage that wasn't full, and got into the show around 1:30.  First stop was the Survival Motorsports booth.  It is kind of cramped for space, so not everything is out on display yet, but tonight I picked up some literature display stands at Office Depot that should give us a little more room. 

We spent some time after arriving talking to Barry and several potential customers who came by the booth.  After a while Kevin and I hit the show, working through a list of people I needed to talk to.  One of the first places we ran across was SCE gaskets, and Ryan Hunter (Marc's brother) showed us his new FE head gasket.  It looks really good, and I happen to have a motor going together right now for testing the intake adapters with various 351C intakes, so Ryan said he'd send me a pair to try out on that motor.  The gaskets have those built in silicone O-rings for sealing around the water jackets and the oil passage in the head, and also have the built in oil drainback hole for SOHC engines.  I'm looking forward to trying them out.  Ryan has a 1970 Mustang funny car with a blown Boss 429 in it as the centerpiece of his booth; pretty cool, and I'll get some pictures of it tomorrow and post them here.

For the last three months the block for my big SOHC engine has been at a machine shop in northern MN getting repaired.  I got the news this week that all the welding was done, and all the machining came out right, so the block is now ready for re-assembly.  This was the news I was waiting for before starting to collect the parts to reassemble the engine, so one of my first stops at the PRI show was at the Darton Sleeve booth.  I had a few special requirements to talk to them about, so I was able to talk to their tech guys and confirm that they could meet my requirements.  I also stopped by the CP piston booth to talk to them about a new set of pistons, and maybe a set of Carillo rods for this engine, rather than going back to the Crowers.  The Carillos are more expensive than the Crowers, but they are supposed to be a better rod, so I may end up going that route.

After stopping at a few other spots I stopped back at the Survival Motorsports booth to chat some more with Barry.  I also got to meet Ray Paquet who stopped by the booth about then.  What a treat that was!  I've been following Ray's exploits for 20 years or more, and to meet him in person was a real thrill.  I also met Adney Brown, Barry's crank grinding guy, who I've heard nothing but good things about.

I'll get a bunch of pictures from the show posted tomorrow night.  If any of you guys happen to be attending the show, stop by the Survival booth and introduce yourselves;  I'll be in and out of the booth, but I'll be there quite a bit on Friday and Saturday.   Looking forward to meeting some forum members at the show - Jay
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2014, 10:47:07 PM »
Glad to hear everything worked out on your block.
Is this an invitation thing like some of them are, or can the general public go? Always wanted to go to these shows just to check out the newest parts and technology, and it's only a 1 1/2hr drive for me. I can imagine Barrys spot must look like a small slice of FE heaven....lol
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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2014, 07:47:54 AM »
The show is a business to business show, but they aren't too fussy.  If you've got a company business card you can walk in, get registered, and get in to the show with no problem.
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2014, 05:51:58 PM »
The pistons for my 504 are CP's. Damn nice slugs! Bought them from Blair. I'm sure their Carillo rods are just as nice.
Top notch manufacturing. Check out the link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0uBUNZ1nG8
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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 07:46:17 AM »
Bummer, I had no idea anyone from here was going. I had a invite to go and was debating if I wanted to drive there.  :'(

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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 09:49:13 AM »
My brother is telling me the show is much busier this year than in the past.
Very large crowds.
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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2014, 06:55:22 PM »
The show WAS really busy, pretty much a non-stop walkathon and talkathon.  I had a great time, and sorry I'm not posting the pics until now, but Kevin and I were pretty much shot after a dinner with Barry R and friends on Friday night, and helping Barry and Marc W break down the booth on Saturday night and get it into Barry's truck for the trip back home.  Those Sideoiler garage blocks are heavy LOL!

The highlight of the show for me came right near the end, when who should show up at the booth but Ohio George Montgomery!  I've spoken with George in the past, but I never thought I'd have the opportunity to meet him in person.  It was simply great to have him show up at the booth to chat.

Some of you may remember the SOHC article I wrote for Hot Rod back in 2009.  I was talking to a lot of people who ran those engines back in the day, and George was one of them.  George didn't know me from Adam, but he gave freely of his knowledge on the engines via email; we went back and forth multiple times, and what George told me really added to the article.  Unfortunately, when Hot Rod chopped the article to make it fit the magazine, they omitted the acknowledgment I had written that listed George and his speed shop as a contributor to the article.  After all the help I got from George I felt terrible about that, and apologized to him via email, but the whole situation kind of sucked.  So I was finally able to apologize to George in person about that, and he was very gracious about it.

George, Barry and the rest of us talked for a good 20 or 30 minutes.  George was there with his son and a few other people, and his old race cars dominated the conversation.  Of course George ran his famous Willys SOHC gasser in the late 1960s, and he said driving that car was a real challenge, as it tended to go back and forth from one side of the track to the other going down the quarter mile.  George also pointed out that the tires and other equipment they had back then was a lot more difficult to use; the tires just couldn't hold the power that those cars were making.  When you look at the pictures of those old gasser cars going sideways down the track, it sounds like that was the normal state of affairs.  No wonder they were such crowd pleasers.

Before he left George gave me a souvenir, a plastic embossed two sided picture showing some of his cars, which he also autographed for me.  I scanned it when I got home today, and the scan didn't come out looking great, but you'll get the idea from the pictures below:





The Mustangs are cool, alright, but that Willys is unbelievable!

I had brought a couple of my books with me to the show, so I gave one to George as thanks for the autographed picture.  We talked a little about the internet forums, and George mentioned he doesn't like to go on the FE Forum anymore because of all the fighting and bickering that goes on over there.  I invited him to join this forum, and I hope he logs in sometime; it would be great to have a legendary Ford racer like George contributing here.

Meeting George was a highlight, but the whole show was really excellent also.  Every day the place was thronged with people, and even though the Survival Motorsports booth was kind of off in a corner there was still quite a bit of traffic.  Here's a picture of the booth, with Barry and Marc sitting behind the table:



The booth was nice, but my favorite was the SCE gasket booth, with the Lawman funny car front and center:



That's a blown Boss 429 in the car; too bad it wasn't a cammer LOL!

Of course the whole convention center was filled with hot rodder eye candy, but this engine from Moran racing caught my eye.  Its a completely independent design, not based on any production engine, and designed specifically for high boost turbo applications.  Features of this engine included cam bearings that remove with the cam when the cam is pulled out, lifter BORES that come out of the block individually (in case a lifter gets stuck in the bore, the whole works can be replaced), and a dry sump with lines built into the oil pan, so that the pump just bolts to the oil pan.  Pretty cool..





About 15% of the show was devoted to machine tools, and since CNC porting is such a big thing these days, there were a bunch of CNC machine displays.  I'll confess to drooling over several of the five axis machines, including the one pictured below by Centroid:



These kinds of machines set the cylinder head on a rotary table and then the head of the machine can tilt back and forth, to get the cutter way in around curved ports.  It is really quite the mechanical ballet to watch these things at work, rolling the cylinder head back and forth as the machine head tilts left and right, going up and down, to carve the port into the head.  If I only had an extra $250K...

In summary, it was a great show and I'll be going back again next year for sure.  I'd encourage anyone who can to attend; you won't be disappointed.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2014, 07:26:19 PM »
Jay,
Thanks for the informative posts and Pics of Barry Rs booth. Does the Lawman Funny Car run in a nostalgia class?  I also hope Ohio George posts to our Forum; after getting a taste of some other forums I really appreciate the positive vibe we're able to maintain.
I've also been following the PRI show from Racer.com which is looking at it from the Indycar and open-wheel racing world. 

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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2014, 08:59:40 PM »
Thanks for your updates Jay.
I was jonsing so bad having to work out here in LALA, really wanted to be there.

Bruce the Lawman f/c is an IHRA deal only right now because it has 4.900 bore spacing making it illegal in NHRA.
My brother tells me they are working on that, but I don't know how that applies.
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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 01:10:48 PM »
To add to Jay's post, here are a couple more photo's I took of the Lawman Funny Car.





I'll add that the SCE gasket booth was right as you entered one of the main convention halls and the Mustang sure grabbed your attention.

Here are a couple other photos I took, first one of the new Super Stock CJ Mustangs



And another wild Mustang, although I didn't get a look under the hood of this one.



There were quite a few cars in the exhibit booths, mostly racecars from pretty much every racing series. I was glad to see very few "tuner" import cars. It was also interesting to see that most of the top unlimited class Dragweek cars were there, scattered in various booths. The exhibitors must feel Dragweek is a pretty good draw. Also noticed in one booth was "Farm truck" from the TV show Street Outlaws. It sure was attracting a crowd, but I'd rather have seen a shiny Ford  ;)

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Re: PRI Show
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 07:46:53 PM »
Jay it was good to get a chance to talk to you Saturday morning. There is much to see at PRI and many trying to see it all. :)
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