Force Fed FE- How much boost before i look at o ringing?

[drdano]

it's my understanding that those two classes are limited to the 130/150 speeds respectively right?

I'm hoping when all is said and done i'll exceed those in the 1/4 mile.

Correct, each class is limited to the upper bound of that, 139.999 and 159.999 respectively.  I looked at the Texas Mile classifications and it doesn't look like they do a similar setup.  So long as you could get your power to the ground effectively, you would probably easily be able to hit both speeds assuming this engine isn't in an articulated bus.  It's a cheap way to explore the sport without having to dump a mortgage into a dedicated LSR vehicle.

[sumfoo1]

articulated bus, no...  but close...

61 galaxie 4 door.

(which i think a 200 club membership would  make it the fastest 4 door in the mile)

cage is designed to spec... weight has been cut everywhere it can be without going to  fiberglass panels because i like the factory steel. There are plans for an underbelly pan to keep air flow under the car nice and neat.  Splitter on the front directing air to and intercooler and a pro-mod/pro stock style rear spoiler. I might go to glass bumpers but that unless someone can show me where to pick up an aluminum re-production (and keep the originals for when i'm not trying to hit 200)

But again... these goals are a few years out (so i can re-coup my car funds) so i doubt anything will go too far too quickly as i blew my initial (car designated) nest egg on the engine, rust removal paint, tranny, rear end, fabrication tools, etc. thus far. LOL...  basically i have everthing i need to make what i want... i just refuse to put 6 grand in turbos on a credit card to finish it earlier than necessary.  I've never had 600+hp before (well 400whp in a subaru could be close with drivetrain loss but its awd so i don't think that counts) so the engine as-is should be a riot.  Right now it's just a half painted body/chassis at a shop, with a complete engine in my shop with trans/clutch setup bolted to it ready to go in.  4 link rear in design/fabrication right now on a 9" i've built  and parts every where.... So my pipe dream is really so close... yet so far away.

[machoneman]

Hey, you could pattern your car after Dr. N's build-up of a '61 LSR Galaxie!

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/bonneville-wonders-1961-ford-galaxie-starliner/

It's a repo of the original Holman-Moody prepared LSR Starliner (the one that was a convertible with the lift-off top that NASCAR nixed after 1/2 a season) that did set records with a 481-483 stroked FE long ago. The current car isn't apparently FE equipped (Roush 358 NASCAR) but heck, it still did 206 MPH.

Besides, one has to smile at the moniker the current owner has painted on the flanks of his '61: Camel Toe Racing 

http://www.cameltoe.net/index.php?page=gallery&id=MQ==&gall_id=MzI=

[sumfoo1]

yeah I've seen that car before... i love it... i wish mine was a starliner to be honest but i really dig the  4 door too.  I picked it up for 3500 with nearly no rust in the car and 53k miles (it was being used as an Andy Griffith car in a Mayberry parade in Flint MI lol.
 
I laughed the first time i saw it because when we were in college my buddy and i had jeeps with winches and access to a vinyl printer.... Needless to say trouble ensued

We made stickers for the side of the jeeps during a snow storm that said "Camel Towing"
We had joe camel's head hanging out of  a jeep with a tow truck  crane on the back.
Anyway... we made about 2k pulling people out of ditches for  $50 bucks a pop.

 The ice was so bad most of the local tow trucks couldn't go anywhere.
(raleigh nc... we aren't really equipped for icy weather)

[drdano]

Hey, you could pattern your car after Dr. N's build-up of a '61 LSR Galaxie!

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/bonneville-wonders-1961-ford-galaxie-starliner/

I've seen that car in person at Bonneville several times now, it's absolutely awesome.  I'm not sure what HP that motor is rated at, but on the starting line from 10 feet away it sounds like it wants to kick it's own grandmother in the face. 

[BH107]

Hey, you could pattern your car after Dr. N's build-up of a '61 LSR Galaxie!

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/bonneville-wonders-1961-ford-galaxie-starliner/

It's a repo of the original Holman-Moody prepared LSR Starliner (the one that was a convertible with the lift-off top that NASCAR nixed after 1/2 a season) that did set records with a 481-483 stroked FE long ago. The current car isn't apparently FE equipped (Roush 358 NASCAR) but heck, it still did 206 MPH.

Besides, one has to smile at the moniker the current owner has painted on the flanks of his '61: Camel Toe Racing 

http://www.cameltoe.net/index.php?page=gallery&id=MQ==&gall_id=MzI=

That car is now owned by George Poteet, and is an actual 61 Starliner not a 62 Starlifter clone. He also has another 61 Starliner show car with a Cammer in it.

[sumfoo1]

They can't be too awful prone to it as some of the original blower fuel cars were FE powered.

You should be o.k. at that power level but......read what the original "engine master" Ed Pink had to say about all the nitro, supercharged SOHC's his shop built in the day for almost all the top fuel and funny car runners. Catch the part about broken blocks.  This with approx. 1,800-2,000 hp, 90% nitro loads, 40% overdriven 6-71's and a single mag/single fuel pump. Tough but breakable. 

http://www.enginelabs.com/features/interviews/the-old-master-ed-pink-reflects-on-sohc-irl-and-midget-engines/

I was thinking about this post some... and compared to a over driven 6-71 running nitro 2000 hp through inter-cooled turbos on efi is next to no stress on the engine as long as she doesn't knock...  i mean a 6-71 making 1800hp is making more heat than it is hp.  The evaportative cooling effects of the nitro meth  are the only reason the engine was thinking about running in the first place... so on e-85 or meth my engine should be relatively "relaxed" in comparison.... that and its built on a block with twice as much meat as a factory FE.

[machoneman]

Agree that a turbo'ed gasoline engine doesn't quite share the same hardships as a blown nitro engine. It's also true a sane level of boost and zero detonation will keep it out of trouble. The iron blocked FE's of the SOHC nitro racer era seemed to mostly split the area  at the main webs with the trace crack running up vertically through the (unused) lifter valley area. Ed Pink related this in in other articles and claimed that he had rows (no kidding!) of Cammers in the back of the shop, almost all with the aforementioned broken mains. Always wondered whatever happened to all the leftover good parts!

Today, it seems all the aftermarket blocks are well beefed-up in this critical area, no doubt giving a much larger safety margin than any OEM iron block.   

http://www.dragracingonline.com/special/bachgould_1.html