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Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« on: January 13, 2014, 07:07:22 PM »
 LETS DEBATE ... 434 inch 428 cj short block , stock compression , edelbrock heads out of the box , comp xe 274 h cam , fpa header s , msd distributor and box , holley 750 or 850 double pumper s , tremec tko , 3.70 with a locker .. It s all in a 69 mach 1 , and as i ve posted before im at 5500 ft elevation so looking for most i can squeeze out of this to the 6000 rpm range , dont want to twist it more because of the stock rods .. I have both intakes , and the street master single plane has never been touched so question was modify it and run it or use the blue thunder ? looking for best  tq and hp in the 2500-5500 range .. Bud
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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 07:36:44 PM »
I think its a toss-up; those manifolds are going to be really close on that engine.  The engine looks very similar to the 410 HP 428CJ that I used as one of the dyno mules for my book.  The Blue Thunder intake will probably give you a little more low end grunt than the Streetmaster, and the Streetmaster will give you a little more top end.  But again, they will be very close.  They are both excellent intakes for that engine.
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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 12:54:55 PM »
Depends on the car too....
If it were a pre-64 Galaxie, I'd want to go with the Blue Thunder just on account of appearance.

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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 06:10:05 PM »
Depends on the car too....
If it were a pre-64 Galaxie, I'd want to go with the Blue Thunder just on account of appearance.

Are you suggesting that my '65 Galaxie (well - Custom actually) is so ugly as to make that factor in the decision (looks) irrelevant?   

Sorry - couldn't help myself - it is the first thing that came to mind... :P
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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 07:21:15 PM »
thanks Jay , for the feedback i still have some time to decide and i am still gathering some parts as well . Keep you posted .. Bud
69 mach 1 , 428 C J  Blue Oval Performance BBM heads -T@D rocker s- Blue thunder intake - Comp hydr roller - MSD ignition - FPA headers- Holley 850 hp double pumper - TKO 600 - 9 inch 3.89 Detroit Locker . ride tech coil over conversion - power rack @ pinoin steering - 13 inch drilled @ slotted 4 wheel disc brakes ..

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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 07:41:33 PM »
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Are you suggesting that my '65 Galaxie (well - Custom actually) is so ugly as to make that factor in the decision (looks) irrelevant?   
Sorry - couldn't help myself - it is the first thing that came to mind... :P

There is a different look between a pre64 and a 65 and up.  The 65's and newer have a different look and feel to them.  More modern in design. 

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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 05:10:14 PM »
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Are you suggesting that my '65 Galaxie (well - Custom actually) is so ugly as to make that factor in the decision (looks) irrelevant?   
Sorry - couldn't help myself - it is the first thing that came to mind... :P

There is a different look between a pre64 and a 65 and up.  The 65's and newer have a different look and feel to them.  More modern in design.

Sorry Drew... that was the dry sense of humor that my wife tells me will get me in trouble... :-)
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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 08:31:19 PM »
I fully understood you.

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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2014, 11:55:46 AM »
I have one update to add to this , i have sold the xe 274 h cam and im going to hydraulic roller , something in the 234-240 @ .50 and 570 s-580 s on the lift on a 110 lobe , keep you in the loop .. Bud
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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 11:15:04 AM »
I have one update to add to this , i have sold the xe 274 h cam and im going to hydraulic roller , something in the 234-240 @ .50 and 570 s-580 s on the lift on a 110 lobe , keep you in the loop .. Bud

That works! I'm a roller kind of guy myself.... Both should be good for that cam. JMHO
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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 04:48:26 PM »
That s what im thinking Wes , that lets me utilize the rocker arms i just bought , and im really thinking of holding off on a stroked 428 and buy ng a new 427 block and building that , just need to decide which crank  4.25  or  4.375 . Thanks  Bud
69 mach 1 , 428 C J  Blue Oval Performance BBM heads -T@D rocker s- Blue thunder intake - Comp hydr roller - MSD ignition - FPA headers- Holley 850 hp double pumper - TKO 600 - 9 inch 3.89 Detroit Locker . ride tech coil over conversion - power rack @ pinoin steering - 13 inch drilled @ slotted 4 wheel disc brakes ..

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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2014, 06:35:06 PM »
Hi Bud
 You mentioned  your home altitude at 5000 ft plus.  Are you in Denver area? If so call Walt and Chip Hane at EPS automotive  in Evergreen Co.  They have the most sophisticated dyno  setup ever.  They are all ford guys to boot.  Dyno both intakes and see how they both shake out.
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Re: Edelbrock streetmaster vs Blue thunder dual plane
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2014, 06:57:24 PM »
Thanks Larry for the info , but im in Albuquerque , n m and its about 5500 and im really leaning towards the street master and i have a trio of carbs to try , 750 an 800 and a 850 .. Bud
69 mach 1 , 428 C J  Blue Oval Performance BBM heads -T@D rocker s- Blue thunder intake - Comp hydr roller - MSD ignition - FPA headers- Holley 850 hp double pumper - TKO 600 - 9 inch 3.89 Detroit Locker . ride tech coil over conversion - power rack @ pinoin steering - 13 inch drilled @ slotted 4 wheel disc brakes ..