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Valve Seat Height
« on: February 10, 2019, 06:10:51 PM »
   Hey guys,

    I've been dabbling in some cylinder head work a bit since I picked up a seat and guide machine. One thing I need a little help with is how to set the valve seats at the same height and the correct height. On the practice heads I didn't measure the seat height, but would presume it didn't come out that well----as I'm not that lucky.
   There are a couple tool available, one being a bridge stand for a dial indicator. Another in the Goodson catalog p/n VSHG-375. It seems a depth mic could also work.  The Goodson tool looks like it wouldn't require a valve installed to take a measurement which might reduce a step.
   When it comes to setting the height of the cut angles on the seat, what tools and techniques work best?   

   thanks,
      Mark
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Re: Valve Seat Height
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 09:03:18 PM »
The "correct" height is not necessarily a specific number if the heads are not new, uncut units.  I have valve depth numbers for new heads that I do regularly.  Used or one-off stuff, I put it where I think it will work best.  Often on used heads, it can be a challenge to get a good repeatable spot that doesn't "sink" the valve.  Sometimes it is just a judgement call.  Sometimes on a freshen up of street stuff the depth can vary by necessity, and touching up the tips gets the top height the same.  Intakes and exhausts may come out different up top, but all intakes should be the same, all exhausts the same, for keeping the valvetrain and pushrods happy.

I use a set-up valve, and a dial indicator on a deck bridge, combined with an indicator on the quill of the machine.  Find your depth, zero the machine to it, etc.

Leveling with a bubble in a guide hole can get you close, provided your machine is level.  Indicating your fixture is the absolute way to know you are 90° to the quill, and "level".  I have several spots that are doweled in my machine for some various common heads, to reduce set-up time.  Take all that with a grain of salt, and do some ciphering of your own.  Hope this helps you.....
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Re: Valve Seat Height
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2019, 10:53:44 PM »
Hi Blair,
    Thanks for the reply on the valve seat height.  I missed it back in February.  At the time I ended up over cutting on one intake seat. Had to pull the seat from the Edelbrock head which took quite a bit of force to get that out.  E-brock had new seat rings on the shelf. Using a seat height gauge on the cutter's pilot shaft I was able to get all the seats very close. A little trimming on the stem tips evened things out on top.   
   
   These days the current issue is engine noise in the thread of 482 Colony Park. 

   thanks,
    Mark
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70 Cougar XR-7 460 C-6
70 Cougar XR-7 conv 351c 4v FMX
69 Cougar SS 351w AOD
69 Cougar Sunroof Eliminator 351w FMX
69 Cougar XR-7 390 C-6
68 Monterey 390 C-6
68 Monterey conv 390 C-6
64 Montclair Marauder 390 Merc-O
58 Monterey 383 Merc-O
58 Parklane 430 MultiDrive
68 Colony Park 428 C-6
68 Colony Park 390 C-6
58 Parklane 430 MultiDrive
70 Cougar Eliminator 351c 4 speed
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