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Holley to E85 mods
« on: October 31, 2018, 01:55:06 AM »
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Re: Holley to E85 mods
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 10:34:59 AM »
I don't have any experience with this, but have researched it quite a bit. You need to look at the rest of your fuel system as well, not just the carb. Make sure all lines are compatible. I believe the e85 will eat at typical rubber hoses and turn them to mush. Carb gaskets will also have to be compatible. After all this, may not be worth your while. Also note that ethanol has a higher vapor pressure than gasoline, it will vapor lock more easily and breaks down faster. You'll want to constantly keep fresh gas in it and If you store your car in the winters you'll want to drain it down.
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Re: Holley to E85 mods
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 10:56:03 AM »
You best buy a carb specially calibrated for E85.  You're looking at nominal 9:1 more or less AFR and the quality of "E85" can vary from E70 to as much as E90 and your carb calibration will have to allow for that.  At the least, Quick Fuel offers a kit with blocks.  My experience so far running Methanol (close to 6:1 AFR) is that you best work with someone that knows what they are doing, or stick to running gas.  Alcohol tolerates being fat easily but doesn't deal well with being too lean.  Also, your mileage will go down because alcohol has less BTU/gallon than gasoline but usually makes more power because of the self cooling intake charge and the oxygen carried in the fuel.  So it may not be as economical as you may expect.  I can assure you that a methanol race engine is pretty stingy on fuel running down the strip at full bore (relatively speaking) but will chew the hell out of fuel just idling.  My dragster will eat a full gallon just warming up.  You'd expect to lose a gallon maybe making 570 HP for 6 seconds at full bore, maybe not expect that when putt-putting next to the trailer.  I've seen what it takes to run full alcohol, I paid someone well to convert a 750DP to run that.  The modifications to the base carb were extensive.  Note - I also run a "top lube" to help prevent corrosion in the fuel system.  Converting the dragster from gas to methanol cost around $1200 - pump, lines, fittings, regulator, carb, additives. 

X2 on the fuel system - everything needs to be compatible with alcohol.  J309 minimum spec for alcohol if I recall right.  It will also chew the hell out of any raw aluminum, so make sure anything that contacts the fuel is either compatible flex/, anodized if aluminum or even stainless. 

X2 on maintenance - you'll want to check your filters (use stainless 100 micron - not paper) regularly and switch back to gas for storage, or pump the entire system down, disassemble and blow out the carb with air and WD-40, pull the plugs and hose the cylinders with WD-40, spin the motor over to clear, then put the plugs back in.

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Re: Holley to E85 mods
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 12:06:15 PM »
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Re: Holley to E85 mods
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 12:15:43 PM »
I'd lean to an electric pump anyway because the volume of fuel used will go up, by around 1/3 more.  If the diaphragm in the pump is not compatible with high alcohol content fuel, it won't last very long.  Why SEMA Action Network et al is fighting the move to E15 from E10 in the pumps.