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427HISS

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What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« on: May 27, 2018, 05:55:17 PM »
Ok, let's not get crazy here, I know cheap is cheap and some have a name factor, but it doesn't mean their the best. And the higher price for digital gauges. I'm not talking about the cheap gas station slider sticks, but the round dial type most of us car people use.   
Some look exaclly the same, but the prices are around $40 to $150.

But what makes a gauge more accurate & at what price ?
What brand do you prefer and why ?
Liquid filled or dry ?
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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2018, 12:21:50 AM »
I've had some serious issues with tire gauges that came to light at work a couple years ago. I blindly relied on a 'quality' gauge that I purchased at a Napa store. It was supposed to be their "best" gauge. Since I deal with quite a few vans and transportation vehicles that carry up to 15-20 college age students, which are often driven up to several states away, I take the safety aspect of this pretty seriously. I also kept a 2nd gauge in the back of the shop for regular campus equipment. One day I had to use it on a fleet vehicle and found that the tire was overinflated by 15+ pounds. NOT good! Or so I thought. I have several gauges at home that I randomly use, so I took them all and tested them at the same time. I was shocked to find that, out of about 7-8 gauges, only 2 of them matched, and they varied by as much as 20+ pounds!! I just can't accept that!

I ended up switching to a digital gauge. They're much more accurate, even testing with other digital gauges. I have, on occasion, ran across random problems where it just won't take a reading from a tire. It seems that, more often than not, it has to do with tires that have low pressure sensors built into the valve stems, but it even happens on the occasional old style tires, and even tube types. In that case, I use a mechanical gauge that I've checked with the digital, and matches it as closely as possible.

For the MT ET Street tires that I have on my Mach, I bought a Moroso tire gauge that only reads to 15 pounds, since I never go over that when they're aired down for strip use. I've found it to be pretty accurate, although it's hard to use since I don't want to put it on the tire when it has 28 pounds for fear of damaging the gauge. I've also found that the more closely the gauge matches the pressure that you're measuring, the more accurate they typically are. In other words, if you use a 0-120 pound gauge, and you're only measuring a tire that takes 10-20 pounds, the gauge is likely to be way off on the lower scale. I'm going to purchase one of their newer digital gauges for my ET Streets also. When it comes to tire gauges, especially with all the cheap crap made today, digital is the way to go. The 2 that I purchased, one for home and one for work, both match in pressure, and they were about $45. Well worth it in my opinion.
Doug Smith


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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2018, 03:09:18 AM »
Interesting timing on this issue, yesterday at the dragstrip, my buddys normally good hooking 4 speed Camaro was having trouble getting launched, I brought my Longacres low pressure dial tire gage to compare to his gauge. His gauge rear 10 1/2 lbs, mine read 11 1/2 lbs, 3 other guys brought their gauges over, among the 5 different gauges, no 2 read the same, all were between 9 1/2 to 11 1/2 PSI. A 2 pound variance may not be much on a regular street tire at 32 PSI, but on slicks which run much lower pressures, I find that much of a swing unacceptable.
1978 Fairmont,FE 427 with 428 crank, 4 speed Jerico best of 9.972@132.54MPH 1.29 60 foot
1985 Mustang HB 331 SB Ford, 4 speed Jerico, best of 10.29@128 MPH 1.40 60 foot.
1974 F350 race car hauler 390 NP435 4 speed
1959 Ford Meteor 2 dr sedan. 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed Toploader. 12.54@ 108 MPH

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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2018, 08:54:23 AM »
Rory, I came to the conclusion that when using gauges on slicks at the strip, I think it's important to always use the same gauge. When you think you have the best setting for your setup, stick with that. Even if it's off, at least you'll always be using the off pressure that works for you. Not sure why your buddys gauge would suddenly be wrong, but like I said, most mechanical tire gauges today are crap, as far as accuracy. They are not certified or calibrated, so anything goes.
Doug Smith


'69 R-code Mach 1, 427 MR, 2x4, Jerico, 4.30 Locker
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'55 Ford Customline 2dr
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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2018, 02:27:07 PM »
Same problem with fuel pressure gauges for carburetors.  Most analog gauges read to 16 psi but we're interested in what happens between 3 to 6 psi and down load these gauges are not accurate.

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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2018, 08:10:07 PM »
Doug, which brand is your digital ?

We raced winged dirt sprint cars for 14 years and I had a Moroso 0-15 psi and a Speedway Motors 0-55 psi for many years. I for some reason wanted a new one, so I bought again, a Moroso, and it was  5 psi higher. With the left rear tire being set at 5 psi and the right rear at 8 psi, 5 higher is incredably high !  I called Summit to return it without an issue, but I was surprised that the tech guy said, "don't buy any Moroso, and I'll send you one that I like the best for you to try. Like it, keep it, just buy from me the next time" I said Cool.

I recieved it last Saturday and really like it so far on the sprint, I'll how it does in the hot summer night of racing next week.  If I keep it, I'll buy his 0-60 psi for my 427 Cobra.

I'll let you guys know my review and thoughts.

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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2018, 09:27:11 PM »
I work in a dealership and use my tire gauge several/many times a day. I have a digital one from Astro Pneumatic. This is the one I have:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Astro-Pneumatic-3018-3-5-Digital-Tire-Inflator-with-Hose/351385577198?epid=9008798941&hash=item51d03666ee:g:ufAAAOSwWflaAe5t

When I originally bought it a couple years ago, it came with a rubber hose. DON'T waste your time with it. I went through two or three hoses and I even store the tool hanging from an air tool rack mounted to the side of my box. Hose is always hanging straight down. I don't get it, but whatever. Finally bought the replacement braided stainless hose and haven't looked back yet. I believe the new ones come with the stainless hose. The screen is back-lit blue LCD and has an auto-off feature. The accuracy seems pretty decent. I have checked next to a standard sliding stick one and it is pretty close. But more importantly, it seems to be within 1lb of the TPMS pressure display on the dash. I also like the clip-on chuck end for extended tire inflation or inflating a tire while mounting, where I can use my other hand to support the tire to inflate/seat it. You pull the trigger about halfway and it will bleed pressure. Pull it all the way and it inflates.
Jared



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427HISS

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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2018, 04:17:37 PM »
I'll check it out, looks nice.

Some of the richer sprint teams have $300-$400 large digital's, but like other top dollar tools, they probably don't need them.
Some guys use their money to try and intimidate you, ya know.  $20,000 golf karts with $50,000 in tools , $10,000 tool box's, 3 spare $40,000 engines (ea) 2 complete ready cars, $500,000 totor homes/trailers, etc.....lol    ;D

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Re: What Makes A Tire Gage High Priced ?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2018, 06:06:02 PM »
The chief cause of tire pressure gauge price is.....inflation