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67merc

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390gt build
« on: January 09, 2017, 11:24:47 AM »
Hi gang newbie here. I'm looking to hop up my 67 390gt thats in my 67 comet caliente. Motor was bored .030 and built about 15 years ago by my father and I. It probably only has 1200-1500 miles on it since rebuilt. Car was a long time, im talking 12 year project. I don't know much about the rebuild other than the bore and my father said it had an rv cam.  I have never been happy with the performance of this motor.  Im looking for a street cruiser with an aggressive sound. Stock c6 trans and im not sure what the rear gears are. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Cody

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Re: 390gt build
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2017, 01:02:36 AM »
Welcome to the forum. Lots of Comet owners here. You didn't have too many specifics on your engine, so I'll just assume at the moment that other than the cam it's pretty much stock. Jay Brown who runs the website here did a lot of FE testing on the effect of different intake manifolds and exhaust manifolds & headers on his engine dyno with different engine combinations a few years ago and published the info in a book, here's a link:

http://www.fepower.net/GFEIC.html

Hopefully Jay will come on here with some advice, but I will say one thing he found was the factory 390 GT exhaust manifolds were very restrictive and not much better than the flat manifolds most other FE's had. One of the first things I would look at would be headers. If you don't intend to hop the car up too much in the future and want to keep it closer to stock you could also consider a pair of the factory 428 CJ exhaust manifolds, they make reproductions too I believe. Whether the 428 CJ manifolds will work for you may depend also on which cylinder heads you have. Headers for a FE are not cheap and there are a few different choices, so you want to pick wisely. You need to consider which cylinder heads you have now, or if you plan to change heads in the future, as exhaust bolt pattern and exhaust port location matters on how well certain headers work and seal and fit. Lots of people here with header experience, I'm sure they will give you advice if you go that way.

One other thing Jay found was the factory "S" cast iron 4V intake manifold also isn't very good for high performance. There were a few different casting numbers, but they all have the letter "S" cast into them. It was ok for what Ford designed it for, low end torque on a stock street car, but there is room for improvement there too. There are a few good choices of intakes you could swap too and gain some power ( and a few bad choices ), again it will depend on how far you intend to go as to which ones are the best choice.

The distributor and ignition system are probably the other place to look at first. After 50 years many FE's no longer have their original distributor. Check the I.D. number stamped on your distributor to see if it is still original, then you will want to check what the initial ( idle ) and total timing are and at what rpm the distributor stops advancing. Before going too far with modifying the stock point distributor you will also want to decide if you want to change to an electronic ignition, and which one. Again, lots of people here to give advice and experience. Some of your choices on electronic ignition are: a Pertronix conversion, a Ford Duraspark  magnetic trigger distributor and either a Ford Duraspark box, or some aftermarket box like a MSD, or a MSD distributor with a MSD box. There are others too.

The factory Ford Holley 390 GT carb is a good one and will work fine if in good condition, at least until the point you step up the power enough that you need a bigger carb.

Tell the gang here what you have and what you want to do and I'm sure you'll get steered in the right direction. Post up some pictures if you've got them. Good luck.

Kevin Rolph

1967 Cougar Drag Car ( under constuction )
1966 7 litre Galaxie
1966 Country Squire 390
1966 Cyclone GT 390
1968 Torino GT 390
1972 Gran Torino wagon
1978 Lincoln Mk V

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Re: 390gt build
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 09:18:16 AM »
I didn't think to say that I have an edlbrock performer intake with a 600 holley. Pertronix ignitor elctronic points. Stock manifolds with 2inch exhaust with flowmaster mufflers. I plan to upgrade to 2.5inch exhaust this spring. Can I get headers with power steering.? Other than that its pretty much stock. See this is why I joined this forum I would have never thought about all of these thing. Im definitely going to look into getting a copy of jays book. Im just looking for an aggressive sounding streetable car. Im not going to race it .... well not at the track but red light to red light hell yes!! Thanks
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Re: 390gt build
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 09:28:17 AM »
Welcome to the forum, Cody.  Do you have an Edelbrock Performer intake, or the Performer RPM intake?  The Performer RPM is head and shoulders above the standard Performer, so you might consider going that route at some point.  But I agree with Kevin, the headers ought to be your first priority given your present combination.  FPA makes a set of tri-Y headers that work very well on the FE and will also work with power steering; see the link below.  You will probably need the drop bracket for the end of the power steering ram to make the headers work, which FPA also has available.  The headers plus te 2-1/2" exhaust will make a huge improvement in your performance.

Good luck on the project - Jay

http://www.fordpowertrain.com/fpaindex/Fairlane1.htm
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: 390gt build
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 03:59:51 PM »
It is the performer rpm intake. What is your take on an H-pipe? Currently my car doesn't have an H-pipe.  What exactly is the purpose?  Also what cam would you recommend?  Personally I would like a more rough or more lobey sound if that makes sense.