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Rich P

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Big block chevy snout?
« on: February 16, 2016, 08:22:00 PM »
I was just reading about survival motorsports 1100 HP  alcohol 496. A BBC snout was used on crankshaft for the blower drive. So was a special timing gears used for the bigger snout size? and I would think the timing cover got a bigger bore and seal put in.

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 08:56:56 PM »
Just a guess, I'm sure Barry will catch this sooner or later and chime in, but I'd venture to say the crank was stepped to allow an FE timing system and possibly the seal also. When you run a billet crank, you can make 'em any way you want.
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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 05:58:30 AM »
That engine had a ton of trick stuff done on it.  Huge credit goes out to my in house machinist Willie Blair on that one.

With the big Roots blower on it we wanted to reduce the length of the snout and increase it's diameter.  The original BDS drive was designed for street cars and stuck way, way out.  By having the crank made shorter and with the BBC diameter we were able to essentially "reverse" the upper pulley, bringing it four inches closer to the block front face and reduced the load on the crank a huge amount.  Doing this cost us the normal water pump - we made bungs and run a chassis mounted remote pump.

We also eliminated the spacer on most FE blower intakes used to clear the distributor in an effort to shorten the belt.  We extensively modified an MSD billet distributor to shorten it, and made an adapter to use a SBC crab cap.

With a very simple baseline tune that engine was beyond my dyno's capacity - we were mainly looking for info on everything working correctly, not leaking, and sounding OK.  Tried a few times and saw measured numbers of over 1000 ft lbs almost as soon as the load came in, and could only get it to "grab" a few times to gather data.  Other times it would just steam the impeller & run away and the dyno sheet would print out the words "too fast" at certain RPM - how cool is it to have a dyno sheet that says that  :)

It currently resides in a radical dirt drag truck out in Oregon, where its only been run a couple times.  First time out it went middle 3's where the next competitor was like a half second behind....

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2016, 07:28:07 AM »
Reversing the upper pulley was a great idea to get the belt as close to the block as possible to reduce that stain. just wondering if a BBC timing gear set was used for the large snout? 1.38" vs 2.331"
is a very good idea for a blower drive.

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 12:15:15 PM »
We modified an FE crank sprocket

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2016, 03:48:34 PM »
Why not an FT diameter?

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2016, 06:39:37 AM »
Because my F700 blower drive hub and pump mandrel options are rather limited.  :)

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 01:55:25 AM »
You would think those trucks need blowers. Damn Chevy-biased aftermarket, eh?  >:(

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 01:14:15 PM »
Just curious to how the timing gears were modified. Was it wire cut?

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Re: Big block chevy snout?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 12:08:53 AM »
Just lathe work.  Willie - my in house machining guru - made up a little fixture that located the sprocket teeth on pins, then opened up the ID, and recut the keyway.  Easy stuff for him, darn challenging for normal folk.