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C4AE-B cam spec's
« on: April 18, 2014, 01:01:58 AM »
I'm in the process of gathering the final parts for my 427 build, and have an NOS C4AE-B cam and lifters. I seem to find varying specs on this cam, and I'm not sure If it's worth using in my build. (cam was purchased from ford in 1970, not HM)

Here's my build so far,

427 S.O. Block, .017 over, somewhere around 10.5/1 CR (haven't ordered pistons yet), stock steel crank and lemans rods, MR heads that have been fairly extensively ported (professionally, but in 1970, no flow numbers yet), Dougs D627 headers ( 2" primarys), Induction will be either a tunnel wedge or factory MR 2x4 intake with either BT/BU or AC/AD carbs ( have both manifolds and both sets of carbs). I initially planned on a stock stroke build, but now I'm leaning towards a 4.250 crank.

The car, 1968 Mustang FB, 4 speed (2.78 1st gear big in and out), 9" currently with 4.30 gears, caltrac bars/springs, 3250 lbs w/stock 390.

Car will see some street duty, but mostly 1/4 mile Drag racing, really don't want to go nuts with a roll bar so I'm kinda limited to 11.50's


Thoughts, comments, ???

Thank's in advance, John

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Re: C4AE-B cam spec's
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2014, 02:10:55 AM »
Three things.
Use the 4.250 incher.
Get a healthy solid roller.
Your going to need a Soft Lok.
Giddy Up!!!

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Re: C4AE-B cam spec's
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2014, 03:59:59 AM »
John, your engine is a lot like mine in my '69 Mach. 427 SO, .017 over, MR heads, MR 2x4 intake, stock steel crank, I JUST switched from a close to a wide ratio big in toploader, locker, 3.89 gears and CalTracs.

I know everybody will vote for the stroker crank. It's easy horsepower and there is certainly nothing wrong with that. But I liked the aspect of keeping mine a "true" 427. Once a stroker crank goes in I can't honestly tell people it's a factory 427 MR Sideoiler. I just liked the link to it being Fords true ultimate FE wedge engine (at least next to a tunnelport)....as it was designed. So I would vote for the stock crank, especially since you already have it. But if the appeal to maintain the "realness" of a 427 isn't there, by all means, go with a stroker.

I did, and would, however, switch to a newer cam. The old designs left a lot to be desired. Even at the healthy durations they have, the lift is miserable due to limited spring technology back in the day. In my opinion you would gain quite a bit by going with a more modern profile with more lift and less duration. The stock lift is around .500 I think for those cams, and that is very tame. Coupled with long durations, which equals lot's of overlap, and it's just not the best design by todays standards. Not that they don't work, you just have to wind them tighter. But again, if your really wanting to stay with that factory 427 image, then I would be tempted to use it. Being my car is more street than strip, I wanted a more modern street friendly profile.
Doug Smith


'69 R-code Mach 1, 427 MR, 2x4, Jerico, 4.30 Locker
'70 F-350 390
'55 Ford Customline 2dr
'37 Ford Coupe

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Re: C4AE-B cam spec's
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2014, 05:32:07 AM »
John, I run that cam in my 427 in my 56F100. Its a .500 lift, 112* overlap, 324/324* duration. I run it on the street with no problems and its a head turner at idle. My engine is a medriser with 2/4s 4 spd  9" 370 rear posi.  No problems on the street and planty of get up & go.If you decide to sell it let me know.

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Re: C4AE-B cam spec's
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2014, 12:45:30 PM »
Some years ago I did a series of articles for one of the Mustang Mags that focused on building a 'modern' FE. I chose to use a solid lifter 390---because I already had it---and then sought for areas where we've learned since the engine was built in the first place.

I went to Comp cams and asked them to design a solid roller "with the 'most-possible' while providing the tractability and 'street-manners' of the factory 'AA' cam".

They provided me, after I gave them flow figures for my 'F-5' Dove heads, a cam with 238-242 at .050, 110* centers, .658-.666 lift. When they told me the numbers I objected, saying it sounded far too radical.

I was assured it'd be all right and when we got it on the dyno it idled, after break-in for 20 minutes, at 850 and pulled strong to 7500. It hadn't nosed over but we planned for that to be the upper limit. It showed over 500 HP even before we started making tuning adjustments beyond start-up parameters.

By all means use a modern cam.

KS