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Commenting on breaking shocks wheels up:
Viking recommends limit straps be used instead of using the shock as the limit.

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I have all of John’s stuff under the front of my 68 Mustang.
Over 30k street miles, 5 years of Autocross.
Ride with a 600lb spring and Bilstien sport shocks was fantastic.
I now run Viking coil overs up front with Warrior Valving,double adjustable shocks.
Ride it a bit choppy now but more than tolerable.

I spray a shot of TriFlow lube on the joints when ever I remember to do it….maybe today now.

The full roller setup allows the suspension to be cycled “stop to stop” by hand with the spring removed very smoth.
As for NVH….I don’t know the 3” exhaust seems to pound out enough noise to pretty much drown out everything else.

On a street car my recommendation is #1 roller spring perch ,#2 roller lower inner control arm bearing,#3 either John’s adjustable strut rod with hyme joint . There are some newer solutions that use a forward mount that looks like a ball that might be better. Then the full roller upper control arm,I run the full monty race version with relocated upper ball joint and reinforcements .




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FE Technical Forum / Re: Carburetor pad angle
« on: May 19, 2022, 07:13:04 PM »
Being a Mustang,I’ll tell you what I’ve done in the past.
Level the rocker with the door open.
Most Ford intakes with an angled carb pad are 4-5deg angled down in front,so if you level the rocker then level the carb pad you end up with 4-5deg transmission down.

Has worked great so far for me.
It also worked with my 64 Comet.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Power Intake Testing
« on: May 13, 2022, 10:10:16 AM »
On the IR intake ,the torque dip between 3800-4500 would that be a function of stack length?
I remember back to the Drag Week SOHC where the street set up had short stacks for air cleaners and long to race.

I know test test test….

Thank you for the incredible effort!

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 351c weird timing problem
« on: April 26, 2022, 10:43:29 PM »
Update problem solved!

It was the coil!
I’ve never seen a coil act like this. After thinking about it I guess it does. INDICATED timing on the damper showed it needed 30-40 to idle, running the rpm up would show the timing increase then engine would buck like it was pushing against too much timing ,but the coil couldn’t keep up.

Sadly here’s what we did to get there

Zeroed damper
Pulled front cover to check timing set ,all good .
Lashed valves ,solid lifter cam.
Swapped cap,rotor,wires with known good
Replaced plugs
Swapped in no less than 3 distributors all with Pertronics
Gave up for the night.
Next day engine will not start at all!
Smoked a Pertronics
Swapped in a coil….
Fired right up normal timing indications
Took it for several test drives
Adjust vacuum advance can.

All in all a hell of a way to tune up a 72 R code Mach 1.

Drove it some more





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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: 351c weird timing problem
« on: April 23, 2022, 07:43:34 AM »
Firing order correct.

Timing light on #1 ,passenger side front.

Pertronics in stock distributor. Swapped in a second one,same results.

Dial back light,tested on engine we pulled the second distributor from.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / 351c weird timing problem
« on: April 22, 2022, 11:35:45 PM »
 I will start out by saying this makes no sense….
My friend got his R code 72 Mach one back after 17 years the guy he sold it to put less than 500 miles on it in 17 years!
The previous owner spent a boat load of money to get it running…sort of.

While trouble shooting some odd engine running behavior the timing was checked it’s off scale at about 40deg advance! First thought is damper is slipped. We piston stopped it. At TDC it’s 2 deg advanced 20deg/24deg=2deg.
Anyway….
If you set the damper to 20 and drop the distributor in it will not run. It’s not 180 out.
Pull dist out and rotate rotor one tooth and drop it in it will run,but no way to know what the timing is.
Being gone for 15 years ,IF the timing chain for some reason came off and was reinstalled a tooth off would the engine run and if it did would the timing act like this?
I don’t think it’s a worn chain or slack because if you back the crank up there seems to be only about 5 deg of movement before the rotor moves.
My friend built this engine 20 years ago,it (should) still have the double roller chain he installed dot to dot he has nothing showing the timing cover having been removed. He has a stack of receipts from the previous owner listing every thing done to get the car running.

Any ideas?

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Yeah this isnt my first rodeo with this old girl . I had a four speed S code in the 80s then this CJ was in a coupe I had with dougs headers on it Then in this R code prior to  my blowing it apart in the late 90s and life happening in the form of an incident with a tow truck and compound fractures and wheel chairs for some years then life just kinda went in another direction so this old war horse just sat sleeping for many years.
So I was 27 the last time I tangled with big tubes and shock towers and cramps in yours hands and wishing that you had more joints in your fingers and arms... The wrenches I had heated and bent are long gone today as well. Doing this at 55 lets say is a bit harder....
I will say this. I had it in the back of my mind when I was building this set of headers but right now there is no doubt in my mind that I will modify this system so that it all goes together before it goes in the car. The car of course would be void of steering components and cross member . So pretty much whatever happens its all made to come out easy as one and go back the same way...Engine , trans , headers . all of it.
It seems like a bunch of work but there is no doubt you can do a better job of it and do it much faster...
I segmented the front tubes for this reason so I would simply need to modify the back 4 so they drop off easy , just leaving the short stubs going up to the flanges.
I am proud to say that I have all the bolts in the header flanges on both sides accept for one bolt each on the rear tubes...

If this is a Mustang,Hooker 6114’s go in with the engine and trans. Cross member removed,steering dropped.

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Although ballooning could of course come from freezing, I have seen the wrong fitting blow a heater core, and now if I install an aftermarket or brass fitting I modify it with a standpipe.

Ford felt they were needed and I believe it's either the creation of steam pockets that can't purge until the heat is run, or the flow amount when the thermostat is closed (which seems less likely)

I have never put a gauge on one, but I do agree your numbers sound high.  If you are running an aftermarket fitting, for giggles,  just epoxy a stand pipe with the proper OD right into the fitting and have it almost touch the floor, it won't help the total pressure but can keep it in water, not air, during filling and opening of the stat and cant hurt.  Additionally, you can drill a 1/16 hole in the thermostat to allow it to purge any air at start and reduce that pressure a bit.  I have gone up to 1/8 without any negative thermostat operation, and I have seen much more, but huge holes aren't needed in my experience

I thought I was the only one who does this. I use 1/8” pipe nipples cut to length about 1/2” off the intake floor. I just thread the heater hose fitting 3 or 4 full threads.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: return line to tank
« on: March 19, 2022, 07:13:45 PM »
If it’s a new problem replace all soft lines and make sure all clamps are tight. I did a lot to mitigate a fuel boiling problem when I lived in Texas but an air leak on the inlet side of the pump caused most of my problem

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FE Technical Forum / Re: FE Power rocker assembly,, ect
« on: March 19, 2022, 07:09:37 PM »
Jay, you might find a "vintage" read that to mean manual, pantograph engraver online somewhere.
They take up about the same space as a modern multi purpose computer printer and you can either make, or purchase...or hopefully the used machine comes with them, the plates used for the engraving process.

Make a jig for the rocker, insert the proper plates and engrave the numbers in the rocker.

I know this is an extra step....okay, 16 extra steps, but it would look good and leave no doubt about the ratio

LOL ,I have one .Very good condition. A friends father used to make custom license plate frames with it at swap meets.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Mustang Borgeson steering box
« on: March 13, 2022, 11:14:47 PM »
I have the Borgeson box in my 68 Mustang.
Edlebrock heads.
Hooker 6114’s fit with the forward bolt head ground at an angle. I do have Ron Morris adjustable mounts. 7-8 tubes are split by the box.
I switched to FPA’s the engine had to be moved,via mounts, again 7-8 are split by the box.

I even made an extended ,then over the top ,modification to use mechanical clutch linkage.

I routed the hydraulics into and through the wheel well.

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my neighbor pulled a 428 out of my comet a few years ago.i had the intake bolts out and he did not notice it.never fear i had the right stuff on it and it came out trans and all without pulling loose.i had to use razor knifes everywhere i could reach.then i used my engine puller to put pressure on it while i trimmed.i got it off.

Wow!
That would have been quite the time bomb crossing the radiator support!

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Sad news - Danny Ongias 1942 - 2022
« on: March 03, 2022, 09:04:30 PM »
Dad would take me to the Indy car races at Ontario ,after the race we would head to the garages. We aways headed for Danny’s garage where he would offer my dad a beer,by name! I had no idea how they knew each other but they carried on like long lost friends . I never asked my dad how he knew him before he had a stroke. Wish I had.
It feels like I lost a friend.

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Happy Thanksgiving
« on: November 25, 2021, 08:35:47 PM »
Happy Thanksgiving to all my Ford FE friends!

Turkey coma setting in,now it’s pie time!

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