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FE Technical Forum / Re: Proper way to disable the oil bypass - AGAIN
« on: January 15, 2016, 06:39:58 PM »
The only problem with using the rear bypass is you'll need the high pressure bypass spring in the oil pump. The oil pump bypass is set to bypass at about 125lbs to protect the oil filter. This is for cold starts only and the rear bypass is the actual running pressure control. I've blocked the rear bypass in 2 sideoilers and just rely on the M57HV as it was set at Melling. My hot/running pressure on both is app. 65 lbs at 2500 rpm and have no problems in the 20 or so years they have run.

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Which manifold? 1 x 4...2 x 4...single plane, dual plane? It would help to know what we're working with here.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: 300-325hp to the rear wheels
« on: January 06, 2016, 08:35:36 PM »
If you are in the market for a crank shaft you might as well go big. A 410-428 crank would be the easiest but if yer greedy you could use the 4.25" stroker crank and make a 445" That'll give your truck plenty of scoot....A card table for a bed? ???

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Non-FE Discussion Forum / Re: Elvis movie Clambake
« on: January 05, 2016, 07:05:50 PM »
That boat used in the movie is a Mandella V-drive and is a full on marathon race boat. It was owned by Louie Brummet  [owner of Mandella boats at that time] and he used FEs in many of his race boats. That boat and several other of his boats ran the Salton Sea 500 back in the 60s. I don't think Elvis drove the boat in any of the race scenes, Louie did.

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Way cool....congrats, Jay

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Choices
« on: January 04, 2016, 02:23:05 PM »
With a full size, I am afraid I have no idea which header fits best, but I have to assume it's not a big deal for FPA, just make sure he knows you need the early/CJ flange

The other cool thing on that car is you could go with cast iron headers for the stock look, and they do pretty well power wise and pretty much bolt on and go.  I think the repop ones would be comparable in price to ceramic FPSs too.

Galaxie guys, any opinions?
As a Galaxie guy I would opt for a set of shorty HP manifolds or the long branch 406-427 manifolds for a street only full size car. Any header or manifold that fits the Galaxie chassis from 1960 thru 64 should fit the Merc. I have the long branch 427 manifolds on my 61 Starliner/427, they work good and I don't have to deal with warped flanges, leaky gaskets, ground clearance issues and other maladies associated with tube headers. And yes I do run tube headers on 2 applications, one car and one boat.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Choices
« on: January 01, 2016, 12:53:37 AM »




If it was a Speed-pro equipped 396 stock build, or a rering, I'd say slap a cam in it and have a blast,

If that isn't a signature line I don't know what is.... For the street I'm a Speed-Pro, slap it together and have a blast type of guy too. Street stuff...It ain't rocket science, its just fun.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Choices
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:57:27 PM »
Don't get me wrong, too much info is always better than not enough info. But as a 1st time engine builder [We ALL started somewhere] trying to cram all this info into your head will just lead to overload as you cited in your last post. As Ross pointed out FE block decks are generally crooked and/or sloped in relation to the crank centerline. it is always a good idea to deck the block if for nothing else to assure a good gasket seal. But since this is being done anyway you may as well gain the most benefit from decking the block, that means zeroing the piston comp. distance to .005" to .000" in the hole. I wouldn't worry too much about that "cool" timing gear cover unless you plan on doing a lot of cam timing adjustments and with a proper cam selection you should not need multiple  timing adjustments unless you are really bored and are looking for something to do. Besides, how are you going to see any benefit of a timing adjustment on a strictly street engine. If you are racing it will show up in a time slip for better or worse but it'll only be in hundreds or thousands of a second and that way beyond "Butt-O-Meter" distinguishable.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Choices
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:12:03 PM »
This is getting way more complicated for a 1st time engine builder than it needs to be. The OP is not building a race engine that needs to extract every ounce of power from it.  A street engine that will only see WOT about 1% of it's entire life leaves a much wider window for a "close" cam selection. I think I could find no less than 10-12 cams from all the prominent cam grinders that would work quite well for this application. Does it really make that much difference if one cam makes 5 or 6 HP more than another cam? Or if the peak torque is at 3400 rpm vs. 3600 rpm? Now don't get me wrong, I do firmly believe in custom ground cams for applications that truly needs it. The last custom cam I bought was for my twin turbo 460, it was done by Comp using their recommendations for turbocharged engines and using the perimeters I gave them. It has more intake duration [248 deg]  than exhaust [236 deg] ground on 114deg lobe centers. Not exactly the type of cam used in a N/A application. This cam allows the engine to idle smoothly at 750-800 rpm, start building boost at about 3K rpm and makes power and pulls hard to 7200rpm. On the other end of the spectrum I use an OLD, original 1962 406 solid lifter cam in my 4200lb 66 428 Galaxie LTD, it too runs well, idles smooth with the typical solid lifter clatter and pulls hard to about 54-5500, delivers about 15.5-16 mpg/hiway  In my previous post I recommended a cam that I have personal experience with. That cam, although may not be absolutely perfect for him, his car and his application I felt it would be close without over thinking and further muddling this 1st time builder's mind. I also went against my personal policy of not recommending a cam as cam selection is purely subjective. IOW what works good for one may not work good for another based on what is important to them. Some like a lumpy idle others like a smooth idle. Some want it to pull hard to 7K, others don't care if it makes power beyond 5K. Nice discussion here but can be a bit confusing and over thought. JMO     

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Cam Choices
« on: December 28, 2015, 02:02:55 PM »
If you are looking for a hard number recommendation for a cam I can offer the Crane hyd flat tappet. 272/284 with app. .540" lift. I run this cam grind in 2 engines, 1st] a mild built 390 .030" over,  1 x 4 bbl. C6. & 3.00 gear in my 66 Fairlane GTA. 2nd] in my ski boat,  Lavey-Craft V-drive flat, similar mild built 390 +.030", 1 x 4 bbl. Cam idles at about 600 rpms with just a hint of a rumble at idle but nothing outrageous. Starts to pull about 1800 rpm [stock converter] up to about 52-5300 rpms. Both engines deliver decent fuel mileage [car gets 16.5-17mpg/freeway] and both serves well for my intended use. I would use this cam without reservation again for most street applications as it makes good torque where it is needed the most, 25-2600-4K+ rpm.   

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil pans
« on: December 01, 2015, 12:52:17 PM »
Rjp has got it!
The pan for my v drive was fabricated by the legend Louis Unser.
It's one of my favorite parts on my motor & certainly has the most history.
If I can figure this picture thing out I'll post some up.
Hope all is well,
Brian
Brian, I followed your build on PB. You did a stunning job on that boat. Absolutely beautiful. Bob

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FE Technical Forum / Re: oil pans
« on: November 30, 2015, 02:03:35 PM »
Try a marine pan. There are two basic types. One is for jet boats and the other is for V-drives. Jet boat application is for engine facing forward [flywheel facing to the rear of boat] and V-drive is for engine facing backward. [flywheel facing forward] For a car/truck application a jet boat would have the proper baffling and pick up. I use 10 qt. full sump Dooley pans [V-drives] but I think Canton and Milodon make marine pans also.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Engine ID quandary
« on: November 20, 2015, 02:00:13 PM »
     Well, I appreciate the info gentleman, but, it doesn't matter now. The seller said he would wait until tomorrow morning for me to look at it before entertaining any other offers but then reneged and sold it this afternoon, I'm a bit PO but what can I do, probably a Chevy guy, is all I can figure. I'm actually more interested in a crank and rods, I just thought that if it was special in some way I would want to know.
      I have 65 f250 with a 352. The oil pump driveshaft snapped so I pulled it and when I opened it up I discovered it was already .040 over. I was thinking I'd just as soon turn it into a 390. It was a daily driver and I loved driving it and I live in LA. Forty miles each way, most of it on the 405. No power brakes or steering, no AC, didn't matter this truck brought me joy. It came with a dump setup for the bed and after taking the bed off to remove all that hardware I took it for a spin with no bed and that was all she wrote!! Never put it back on! Threw a set of headers on and really had some fun only 208 hp but it moves well without that weight.
       I now have a 4v intake and I'd like to throw a mild cam in as well. Not towing, not hauling, just driving my big ugly truck/coupe. So now I'm on the hunt for a crank and rods and working with a tight budget. Anyway, now you have a little idea of where I'm at. Just gotta keep looking and learning.
You can always just bore your 352 [@.040"over] another .010" and make it a std. bore 360 [4.05"] reuse your rods and crank or find a set of 390 rods as they are a different length and the 390 crank. I would have no problem with using that block at .050" over or even more with a sonic check. Replacement/rebuilder cast pistons are available for just about any combo you want to build. Another thought is if the bores are good [no taper] in your .040" over block just do a simple re-ring/hone and new bearings. That is very doable on a tight budget and will give you several more years of happy motoring.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: C3AE A
« on: November 06, 2015, 01:45:20 PM »
What you probably have is a Industrial block. If there was some sort of defect such as core shift, porosity, fissures and perhaps in your case with the std. bore thin cylinders it would not be suitable for passenger car/truck use. Ford would build them for industrial use such as stationary pump, electrical generators. wind generators or any other application that the engine ran at a steady low rpm, usually under 2000-2500 rpm and moderate load. At one time a good source of rare odd-ball engines was the Napa wine country that used industrial wind generators in the vineyards. Some were HD 361- 391s and on rare occasions a 428 engine could be found.   

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FE Technical Forum / Re: Who's running 2x4 Holley BC/BD Carbs?
« on: October 31, 2015, 03:56:28 PM »
My only concern about your cloned metering block is the core used will have the same emulsion configuration as the orig. metering block. The other variables is just the IFR and the PVCR and is easily matched to the orig.

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