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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - July 27
« on: July 29, 2014, 09:05:35 PM »
Last time I had this issue with a leaf after install it was a mechanical oil pressure line that goes to a gauge in the dash with a union at the firewall. It leaked on the back of the motor which drove me nuts as it doesn't push oil out with the vacuum pump normally.

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - July 27
« on: July 28, 2014, 07:27:18 PM »
Jay:

 My Accufab TB's have stacked set screws. Pull out the outer one and their is one behind it that actually engages the stop. The second screw allows you to be sure they don't move once adjusted. I have mine set up to draw air from both instead of just one. It seemed happier in terms of AFR balance that way. I tried sequential progressive linkage but that was a fail so they are 1:1 linked with the progressive set of link bars for the "secondaries". I did re-drill the attachment point on my original to get the maximum delay before the "secondary' opens and when I bought #2 for the dual setup I found they had made it a running change. I also had to wittle on mine a bit for manifold top clearance as you did.

When Scott comes in two weeks we may try the dual idle valves. So far I haven't used them.

Bill

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - July 20
« on: July 25, 2014, 09:13:38 AM »
TomP, the other issue with with oddly shaped inlets and undersized plenum volume is the stack up of compromises which altogether could represent a loss of 5-7% HP, 50-70 on a 1000 hp engine. Even with EFI, cylinder to cylinder balance is affected by both of those design considerations. The information Jay has posted has shown the value of top mount throttle bodies vs. front mount with his original plenum roof design.

Given Drag Week is also about going as quickly as possible five times in five days, we all have to make choices of esthetics vs. performance. Jay has had some of the best looking cars at the event year after year. I can't wait to see the final product in action at Tulsa this year. With right trans and chassis combination and optimized power Jay might be the first small tire N/A car in the 8's.

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 29
« on: July 19, 2014, 12:53:31 AM »
I use a System 1 oil filter with the Peterson Wide Vac external oil pump I run. No oil starvation related issues to date (nine years) with the aftermarket 385 block.

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - July 6
« on: July 08, 2014, 09:36:33 AM »
Jay:

On the crank case vacuum I only see 12" on track. I know it could go higher as it flattens out when it hits the vacuum break set point at the top of 1st gear. At idle it barely registers on the vacuum side of the analog boost/vacuum guage I use to watch it going down the road, at cruise around 5-6". It's connected to the driver's side valve cover. In 2012 Scott and I added an additional GM style MAP sensor which is plumbed to the passenger side valve cover. It reads prettty much in sync with the analog guage and of course we can data log it. Still shows KPa as i never got around to mapping the conversion for the virtual gauge.

The engine seal issue turned out to be way harder than I expected the first time around and your SOHC is way more complicated my 385.

When given a choice I opted for -10 lines form the VC's as I was told they would have lower velocity and would pull less oil out of the motor. The big shock was the amount of water in the one quart Jaz breather can at the end of a long day of driving. I ended up with two as just one over flowed on the first ten hour day with a lot of humidity. Now I drain them every day at DW.

Bill

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - July 6
« on: July 07, 2014, 12:20:55 AM »
Looking good Jay. Congrats on getting the cam timing zeroed in and finding power with the twin throttle bodies on top. (Kinda validates my set up too)

With the engine off the dyno you'll be in on road tuning mode, but I think you'll find the engine may respond to a bit of added fuel with the crankcase vacuum working now. It's hard to say for sure, but I've always been able find ET with slight changes in the fuel tables and the spark tables with the engine in the car using the full exhaust set up, or at least the collector extensions in lieu of the full exhaust system. The settings that were optimal without crankcase vacuum won't be with it working correctly. I haven't run a true dry sump like yours so my 'experience' is open to question.

I set my Peterson Wide-vac to 12" maximum due to worries about drying out the wrist pins.

This year I'm committed to running the collector extensions and dumps as the road exhaust is going to be 2.5" tubes and turbo mufflers. Restrictive yes, but much quieter which I'll need with the tin box Fox. And yes that is the same size as the last step in the header primaries!

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 29
« on: July 03, 2014, 10:16:02 PM »
Interesting TB. The top mount lever makes the air cleaner/filter question interesting.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the other two TB's Jay. Any time to whip up a more symmetrical top for the tunnel ram?

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 29
« on: July 03, 2014, 12:52:14 AM »
Nothing to add on external vacuum devices, but engine sealing is obviously key to making a dry sump or a wide vac work. We used a smoke tester on mine to find the leaks. The newer Cometic valce cover gaskets were a real improvement on mine. I don't know if they have a P/N for the SOHC, but they'll make just about anything.

I have also had good experince with the Accufab TB's. As you'll recall I run two on the tunnel ram on the 598". At 2200 cfm each all the carb guys lose their minds but they work great, idle and part throttle well, never mind WOT and you know the power we made back in 2011. More to come here shortly (fingers crossed). They are also far and away the shortest which helps with packaging and scoop height. A 16 x 3.5" filter showed a slight improvement on the dyno over open so I run the filter all the time. K&N for the road and a Nascar spec WIX at the track. Roush Yates has special prices on them from time to time, very inexpensive. I just squeeze them into an oval shape on top of the TB pan/isolator plate.




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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 22
« on: June 25, 2014, 10:41:00 PM »
How will you test the new sensors?

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 2
« on: June 22, 2014, 11:32:37 PM »
Me too, on the wedge front, but sometimes we have to test our assumptions about those things we take for granted. In a months time I'll have my 598 on the pump and we will be looking at cam phasing even though it it just a conventional single cam, push rod antique.

I'd never really worried about it and today we learned that stuff moves around move than we knew.

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 2
« on: June 22, 2014, 09:00:59 PM »
But, the question today is cam phasing, do you know where yours is?

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 2
« on: June 22, 2014, 08:59:44 PM »
Runner length is critical on a drag race motor, but, 98% of us don't get to play with runner length and shape as well as plenum volume except at the most coarse manifold swap level. That said I know of three, now four EFI Drag Week style engines that have picked up across the board with a tunnel ram. Narrow band, high RPM WOT only makes for a different set of choices.

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - June 2
« on: June 21, 2014, 10:06:34 AM »
When the Wilson guys did my manifold, we talked about volume and their CNC program for the cast Trick Flow tunnel ram was created with my heads and and the flow numbers we had from the devlopment process. As is it's about 112% of CID. We had to guess a bit at operating RPM as that version had never been together before. The big deal according to them was the runner inlet shape which in turn was dictated by the casting thickness.

I like the 'hump' idea for adding volume. Good luck this weekend!

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - May 4
« on: May 09, 2014, 04:26:53 PM »
And your over the road fuel of choice is?

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The Road to Drag Week 2014 / Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - May 4
« on: May 07, 2014, 05:53:08 PM »
That is one of the most striking cars we've seen at DW. I noticed in the pictures that there did not seem to be an upper core support member? On my '71 I made that part removable to aid in engine/trans swaps but the fenders/ engine compartment actually squeeze in by about 1/4" when it's removed so I've been careful to keep it structural. Did you see any evidence of movement from the drives or is there reinforcement you can't see? Otherwise it would seem that the radiator is a stressed member?

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